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Translated (quite a lengthy wishlist) Edit: although then I found that there are two identical posts, the other in English
Hello PG Music team and community,
I'm writing as a long-time and deeply grateful Band-in-a-Box user. BIAB has always been a true pioneer. Long before "AI" became a buzzword, BIAB was already offering accompaniment tools and musical intelligence that changed the way music is created. Looking ahead to BIAB 2025 and beyond, I'd like to share some constructive thoughts on how AI can strengthen—not dilute—BIAB's original mission: to empower musical creativity from the very first chord.
1. "Neural RealTracks": From Fixed Performances to Elastic Musical Expression
RealTracks are one of BIAB's greatest strengths. However, they remain limited to the musical register in which they were originally recorded. Unlike a sampler or synthesizer, a RealTrack cannot be freely "transposed" between octaves—in many cases, that performance simply doesn't exist in the requested register—and while some limited transposition may be possible, RealTracks are not designed as elastic instruments that change registers while maintaining a completely natural timbre.
Proposed Direction
• Elastic Voicings with Natural Pitch Preservation This is precisely where AI can make a real difference. Instead of stretching audio, BIAB could use formant-preserving neural resynthesis to recreate the same musical performance in another register while maintaining the original pitch and realism. This would allow for free choice of voicings and registers, without being solely dependent on what was captured in the recording sessions.
• Natural Endings, Pads, and Phrasing Some RealTracks and RealDrums—especially the pads—can end abruptly. An AI-based phrasing engine could generate smooth, organic tails and transitions, making arrangements sound polished without the need for external editing software.
This would transform RealTracks from static performances into living, flexible musical instruments.
2. Improved Creative Flow: Fully Integrated Utility Tracks and Harmonic Intelligence
Creativity should flow as quickly as the musical idea, but today Utility Tracks still feel somewhat disconnected from the overall arrangement logic in BIAB.
Proposed Direction
• Full Integration of Shots/Rests/Holds Utility Tracks should follow Chord Sheet symbols and Bar Settings just like the main tracks. Currently, even manually created rests can be refilled upon regeneration. Full integration would unlock much richer arrangement possibilities.
• Pop-up contextual interface for chords When a chord is entered, BIAB could display a smart window with inversions, extensions, and micro-times, reducing menu navigation and encouraging spontaneity.
3. Expanding notation and lyrics for modern arrangements
Now that BIAB can handle up to 24 Utility Tracks, the notation system should evolve to reflect that scale.
Proposed direction
• Multi-channel lyrics (L1–L14 and beyond) Independent layers of lyrics would allow choirs, backing vocals, and spoken elements to have their own phrasing, independent of the lead vocal.
• Printable internal notation of the entire work Exporting to MuseScore is useful, but it breaks the creative flow. Ideally, BIAB should be able to display and print the entire arrangement internally—not just seven instruments—so that the process can be finalized within BIAB itself.
4. AI-Assisted Production: The “DaVinci Resolve” Philosophy
DaVinci Resolve became a transformative platform by applying AI directly to real workflow bottlenecks, offering professional tools such as automatic masking, object removal, noise cleanup, speech reconstruction, dialogue-based editing, audio enhancement, stem separation, and much more. The principle was simple:
One environment. One purchase. One complete professional solution.
Band-in-a-Box has the same opportunity—especially if BIAB and RealBand evolve into a Unified Production Module, designed around musical creativity.
Proposed Direction
• AI-Assisted Mixing and Mastering Integrate intelligent balance tools inspired by iZotope Neutron (now part of the Native Instruments ecosystem), along with AI mastering that generates LUFS-compatible versions for each streaming platform, while preserving musical dynamics. The goal is not volume at all costs, but release-ready results within BIAB.
This would allow users to compose, arrange, mix, and master within a single, coherent ecosystem—just as DaVinci Resolve unified post-production.
5. Clear Expectations for AI: Useful, Not Just Demonstrative
If BIAB invests in AI features like stem separation or audio-to-MIDI conversion, it would be ideal if they reached a standard comparable to current tools—otherwise, many users will continue to rely on external software.
For example:
• Stem separation should aim for results similar to RipX DAW Pro, ideally through deep spectral analysis and not just EQ-type processing.
• Audio-to-MIDI conversion should be comparable to Melodyne 5 Studio, while also being harmony-aware: respecting tonality, chords, and realistic registers, and integrating directly into the Chord Sheet and notation windows.
If these tools don't reach that level—and aren't musically integrated—they risk becoming interesting demonstrations, but not truly useful composition tools.
6. AI for Lyrics — Only if it truly supports the songwriter (including optional internet connection)
If BIAB is going to offer AI-powered lyrics generation, it should provide real creative value—not just from a limited database, but also by offering optional access to a broader knowledge base, always with the user's consent.
Many current systems (such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, DeepSeek, etc.) are powerful not only because they generate text, but because they are trained on—or can access—large volumes of cultural and linguistic information. This allows them to inspire the songwriter with themes, structures, rhyme schemes, emotional tone, and genre-specific language.
Proposed Direction
BIAB could offer an AI-powered lyrics assistant that:
• works locally with BIAB's own library and, with user permission, can connect to the internet for broader inspiration,
• suggests ideas without copying existing lyrics,
• understands the musical context (genre, tempo, atmosphere),
• and integrates directly into the creative workflow, preventing the user from having to leave BIAB to find inspiration.
The goal is not to replace the composer, but to maintain the creative flow within BIAB from the initial idea to the finished song.
Conclusion: Strengthening BIAB's True Identity
None of these ideas are intended to turn BIAB into a generic DAW. Rather:
They aim to protect what makes BIAB unique—intelligent music creation—while simultaneously offering the possibility of completing the entire work without leaving the platform.
If RealTracks become truly flexible, if Utility Tracks are fully integrated into the arrangement logic, if notation and lyrics reflect actual arrangements, and if AI-assisted mixing, mastering, and lyrics allow a song to be completed in a single environment, then BIAB can proudly remain the world's most integrated and musically driven creative workstation.
Note: Due to my work commitments and the time difference between Europe and the United States, I may not always be able to respond to comments promptly. I apologize in advance if I am slow to reply. I sincerely appreciate any feedback or discussion this message may generate.
Last edited by AudioTrack; Yesterday at 03:15 PM.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
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You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
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You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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