Originally Posted by MarioD
Originally Posted by Bass Thumper
Originally Posted by Notes Norton
That gets me to the question of what is the definition of being successful?
Regarding the definition of being musically successful, I think we need to recognize 2 things.
1. That musical success is also on a spectrum and not Boolean
2. The context
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FWIW - Here are my definitions of musical success:
1-Those who are assigned to major record companies, tour, and make it big time.
2-Those who make a living via music, not including those in #1. This includes bands, music teachers, and orchestras.
3-Those who have made money playing music as an avocation.
4-Those who just sit at home and enjoy making music.

These are just my definitions and yours may vary. Feel free to modify my lists.

PS - I would put Notes in the #2 definition and myself in first #3 and now in #4.

{edit} added music teachers to the list
Are you providing definitions of musical success, or musician categories? I think categories.

Chapter 7 is interesting.
It’s also important to distinguish celebrity from expertise. The factors that contribute to celebrity would be different from, maybe wholly unrelated to, those that contribute to expertise. Neil Young told me that he did not consider himself especially talented as a musician, rather, he was one of the lucky ones who managed to become commercially successful. Few people get to pass through the turnstiles of a deal with a major record label, and fewer still maintain careers for decades as Neil has done.

In my humble opinion, I'd say Neil is a talented muscian and a top-shelf songwriter, plus I love his stuff smile

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