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Just looking through the manual and screenshots, I cannot see a freeze icon. Has this been removed completely and now only available from the menus?

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It's on the mixer and on the tracks view

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Originally Posted by Cerio
It's on the mixer and on the tracks view

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Thanks, sorry, might not have been clear. I don't mean the one on individual tracks but the main freeze icon where you could unfreeze or freeze all.

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Originally Posted by Lee N
Thanks, sorry, might not have been clear. I don't mean the one on individual tracks but the main freeze icon where you could unfreeze or freeze all.

It is on the master volume, see picture:

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It's also possible to Freeze/Unfreeze all by right clicking on the Master track shown in the image below.

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Thanx Noel, I didn't know that.


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Thanks. I have used the large icon so many times, I didn't even realise this same functionality was also available in the older versions!

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Thanks for the hints. They work fine, but with the difference to older BiaB-Versions, that all unsed tracks and utility tracks are frozen and displayed inside the mixer. I didn't find any way to hide them. Help !!!

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What version of BIAB do you have?


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Originally Posted by saxgh
Thanks for the hints. They work fine, but with the difference to older BiaB-Versions, that all unsed tracks and utility tracks are frozen and displayed inside the mixer. I didn't find any way to hide them. Help !!!
I think it's a bug. As soon as you freeze any track, the hide inactive doesn't work - not for me anyway.

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Originally Posted by Lee N
I think it's a bug. As soon as you freeze any track, the hide inactive doesn't work - not for me anyway.

I believe it's is not a bug, but poorly executed feature. I was told that... If you "manually" make empty track visible from eyeball menu, it will not "hide" using "hide inactive", even if it has no data. The way to check this, under dropdown of eyeball menu, you will see wording "shown". That means that you opened it manually.

Again, I believe it is a poorly executed feature, and I made developers aware of this. In my view track that has no data should go bye bye if "hide inactive" is pressed.


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If it is by design then it's an odd behaviour and it didn't do this in previous versions, at least not before v2024. For example, hide your unused tracks and then click on "Freeze All". Every track will then appear and cannot be hidden unless you unfreeze them. Are you getting the same thing happen?

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"Every track will then appear and cannot be hidden unless you unfreeze them. Are you getting the same thing happen?"

I don't follow. Are you saying if you freeze Master (all tracks) and click "Hide Inactive" you get > "Every track will then appear"?





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Hmm, interesting. That's not what's happening with mine. I'll have a play and see what I can find out. I'm on Build 1217

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I think I unintentionally tested with pre-release version. The good news, the issue is likely fixed in upcoming patch!

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Originally Posted by Rustyspoon#
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I think I unintentionally tested with pre-release version. The good news, the issue is likely fixed in upcoming patch!

Actually, after playing around, I'm no longer sure what is happening with it, other than it's a bit strange and doesn't always do what I expect. It seems to treat a frozen track as active, whether or not it actually has anything loaded on it. Maybe it is by design but it seems a bit clumsy (auto hide mentions frozen tracks). For example, (with auto hide not ticked) ... hide inactive channels so you just have a few tracks showing. Then click on freeze all, and nothing happens (as expected). Then click show active and all tracks will appear. Then click hide again but now they all stay on show.
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Tested with Build 1220. It seems like everything is working.

An other confusing fact was, that songs which were frozen with older BiaB-Versions, had no frozen-icon at the master-entry at the bottom of the mixer. Unused tracks, like the utility-tracks, appeared unfrozen after loading the song and all tracks were showed. The status of the the song was "All tracks frozen". After a new "Freeze All Tracks" the unused tracks were displayed as frozen too. In combination with the bug, that the tracks didn't disappear, the confusion was perfect!

It seems, that unused tracks are marked as frozen, is a changed behaviour in younger BiaB-Versions.

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