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I have a pop style here that uses triads for the chord progression.
Can I change the chord progression to four-note chords and then back to triads for this pop song?
Would this have to be done via the melodist?

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I'm confused - standard major and minor chords are triads - any fourth note would be a repeat of one of the notes in the triad - or it would not be the standard major or minor chord. .. A guitar would probably be playing all three notes and a piano could easily be playing lots more notes but they would be 'doubled' as it were. What do you mean by four note chords? BIAB can 'play' lots of four note chords like a C7 - C,E,G,Bb.

I'm only a cowboy chord guitarist so maybe I'm missing the point.

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Hi, i think they are called seventh chords , not for now i want to look at stab chords : s(sopran)t(tenor)a(alt) b(bass) chords for now , these are triads with doubling a note
I like to enrich the chordprogression in BIAB with fuller chords then only for triads.
Hope you get the idea...its for composing

Well, I already have an idea of how it works: the style generates a certain chord progression, which is fixed by the melodist.
Then you can change the chords later in the chord sheet.

So in my style, there were all triads, and then you could change them manually if you wanted a fuller seventh chord.

Diatonic Seventh Chords in C Major
Scale Degree Chord Name Chord Symbol (BIAB) Notes
I C major seventh Cmaj7 (or CΔ7) C – E – G – B
ii D minor seventh Dm7 D – F – A – C
iii E minor seventh Em7 E – G – B – D
IV F major seventh Fmaj7 F – A – C – E
V G dominant seventh G7 G – B – D – F
vi A minor seventh Am7 A – C – E – G
vii° B half-diminished seventh Bm7♭5 B – D – F – A

I think in popsongs (other genre music styles too ?) i can reduce the generated chord progression to triads and then use sevenths chords
What does the regenerate button?

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you can enter any chord you like - sevenths, ninths, etc - you don't have to stick to straight major or minor go to the support page and choose online manual. chapter 15 has a list of supported chords.

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Thanks, that's great for BIAB to have those chords

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all of those chords can be used in BIAB if you use midi but RealTracks are recordings of actual musicians so the artist has to have recorded a phrase using that chord. if they didn't BIAB will substitute the closest it has

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There is an option that I think is global to “Jazz up the Chords” which will take simple triads and add 7ths.

I’ve never tried it because all the styles I use contain at least 7ths and upper extensions too. I’m not at a computer but if you would like to know where this option can be found, it’s in the article I wrote in the Tips and Tricks Forum. It’s a sticky post called When BIAB doesn’t play the chords you wrote”.


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Thanks, i think this is specific for jazz styles to jazz up en jazz down the chords, and found it in BIAB
I am using pop chords related with a popstyle , so they are simpler those chords
Could not quick find your post about building chords yet,unfortunately

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Originally Posted by janhardo
Could not quick find your post about building chords yet,unfortunately

Matt's post is here :
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=694482#Post694482

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Danna, thanks for the link. There are several topics there that might apply.


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Originally Posted by janhardo
Thanks, that's great for BIAB to have those chords
Threre is a page ** here *** that lists the chords BiaB recognises.
Depending upon the particular style/RealTrack, some chords may be recognised but not played in full.


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Thanks, great this chords

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Did you not try, in the 1st instance, to enter a 7th?
I sometimes wonder about the lack of curiosity and experimentation in some folks.
Then again, the brains trust is pretty fabulous.


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I've already typed in some stuff for the chord extension, added a seventh, no 9, 11, or 13, and added the function notation.
It seems that for jazz styles, you can enrich or impoverish the chords.
For a pop style, this option is not available, as far as I can see.
It would be easy if the chord progression were in triads and you could enrich the chords with the push of a button.
If I now have triads in a song, I have to manually adjust the chord sheet, which then gives me the opportunity to experiment and come up with the best-sounding chord.

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Originally Posted by janhardo
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For a pop style, this option is not available, as far as I can see. ...
It tends to depend on how the musician played the samples for the RealTrack. 'Pop' music often has only the dominant seven, so the tone pallet can be limited. This is rather what I meant when I said chords may be recognised but not necessarily played.


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Among the many tips in the article I wrote here
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=694482#Post694482 Is the concept that the more specific you are in BIAB with upper extensions, the better. To do that, you should know chord theory.

Here’s an example. When you write “a 7th”, you will get a dominant (minor) 7th if you just write 7. If you want a major 7th, you have to write that. But do you know what kind of 7th you will get if you write a 9th chord? When you enter D9, you don’t tell BIAB about the 7th. This is the same playing notation on sheet music.

It gets worse the higher you go. When you write a 13th chord, will it include the 9th? Which one - natural, flatted, or sharped? Will it include the 11th, and might you prefer a #11, especially in a chord at the end of a phrase unless it’s a minor 11? Which will BIAB choose? In that 13th chord, where is the 13th voiced? Will it clash with the 7th (a half step away)?

Tip: any number above seven, just subtract seven to find the pitch. Then all you need to know is in what register (octave) it will sound.

If you don’t yet know the music theory about this, your ears can generally give you the hint if the chord isn’t right. Play the song. Do you like the sound? Or, press Shift+Enter to audition a specific chord. Do you like the sound?


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I assume that the chords entered in the chord screen are heard in the style (MIDI) and also in the real style?
A thirteenth chord, for example, does not mean that there is a stack of thirds from the triad and that you get a 7-note chord, if I remember correctly.

How could you do a quick test to listen to all the chords in BIAB?

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Originally Posted by janhardo
How could you do a quick test to listen to all the chords in BIAB?

That is actually very possible. Just use AI to list every chord in a single key that BIAB can generate. Tell AI to look directly at the BIAB manual for a listing of all possible chords. Then tell AI to generate a text file in the format that will place a single chord in each bar of a song and paste that into the Chord Chart in BIAB. Once you have all the chords input into the chord chart use the "chords" feature to play each chord as a block midi. Or just use any individual style you care to hear what the style and/or RTs will do with the chords.

I am surprised I have never seen anyone do this. crazy So for the first to do this, upload the .sgu file so the rest of us can play with it.


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Good effort, but the arrangement isn't quite right yet. However, it can still be improved.
I also gave it a try and the AI assured me that it used the same chord symbols as in BIAB, but when I entered them into the chord sheet, that turned out not to be the case.
Yes, you can still create the chord families suggested by the AI: triads, sevenths... and I ended up with 10 groups, but then there are gaps in the chord sheet
But then you need to know exactly which system BIAB uses for notating chords in the chord sheet before the AI can get to work on it.

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Chord symbol nomenclature is not entirely standardized. It has always been the case that you have to learn how a chord is spelled in each program. It's even possible in BIAB to define your own shortcuts for chords.

BIAB has some odd ones, such as C5b, and I'm not surprised AI might now know such quirks. That doesn't necessarily mean anyone is mistaken, or needs to be 'improved'.

I'm curious, what chord did AI suggest that BIAB did not recognize?

ps my personal pet peeve is the use of the plus or minus sign in a chord.


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Apparently, you have to go by the midi styles, which do interpret the chords fully in the chord sheet.
The real styles do not have that full interpretation of the chords in the chord sheet, so you would have to listen to how it sounds.
A standard notation system should be used by BIAB.
So what is the collection of chords that are important in BIAB?
This needs to be reviewed and we need to see what the chord translation in the chord sheet gives.

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I’m clearly not understanding the issue here, because every chord is important and BIAB does follow a standard. It’s just that there are several standards and they can differ.


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I am afraid I don't understand what you are trying to do.

The nomenclature the BIAB uses for chords is of course standardized to best possible. There remain the fact take the naming of chords does have differences. That fact however, is common across the board.

Is that what you are having a problem with? Or is it this...

Below is an example of the requirements for a Text File to be used to input chords to BIAB. AI should know this but I have seen that to not always be the case.

These are the BIAB rules for the text file to be used to input chords. The short examples below shows four beats per bar If there is only 1 chord between bars it will get get a whole Note duration. If only 2 chords per bar each will get 2 beats or a half not each. If three chords in a bar each will get a 1/4 note with a 1/4 rest on beat 4 of the bar. Max is four chords per bar with each getting a quarter note.

[Chords]
| Cm Eb| Bb Cm Cm Eb| Bb| Cm| Cm| Eb| Bb| Cm| Cm|
[ChordsEnd]

You just need to copy and paste this little text code into BIAB

The orignal proposal was to copy a list of all BIAB Chords. Then give that to AI along with the "rules" and ask AI to create a single text file. This part worked well, in fact AI made the BIAB chords list for me. In my first attempt something went afoul. I have not had time to repeat the effort.


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The idea was to conduct a test to listen to all BIAB chords as MIDI block chords.
The problem now is to collect all the chords that are possible in BIAB to play in the chordsheet, but it seems that this is not possible with AI to get those chords

The chord sheet must recognise them, otherwise it is useless.
I know how to copy and paste the chords in BIAB, I have done that a few times, but the progression showed gaps because BIAB did not recognise the chord.
I'm curious to know which chords are now recognised in the chord sheet.

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I’m clearly not understanding the issue here, because every chord is important and BIAB does follow a standard. It’s just that there are several standards and they can differ.

The issue here is that AI cannot provide a complete list of all chords ,which are possible in BIAB, because different notation systems are used in the chord sheet.
The only thing you can do is have AI compile a list of all possible chord types and enter this into BIAB.

Of course, some chords will be left out of the progression, as I have already experienced.
Then you have to try to get them to work manually in BIAB.

It's just a test.

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You can use ai further for this chords list.
This list is made from the chordbuilder
Triads
Added-Tone Chords
Seventh Chords
Extended Chords
Altered Dominant Chords
Suspended Chords
Altered Suspended Chords
Color & Effect Chords


| C |
| C2 |
| C4 |
| C5 |
| C5b |
| Csus |
| C(Blues) |
| Caug |
| C+ |
| Cdim |
| Cdim5 |
| Cadd2 |
| Cmadd2 |
| Cm |
| Cmaug |
| Cm#5 |
| C6 |
| C69 |
| Cm6 |
| Cm69 |
| CMaj7 |
| Cm7 |
| CmMaj7 |
| Cm7b5 |
| Cdim7 |
| CMaj9 |
| Cm9 |
| Cm9b5 |
| Cm11 |
| Cm13 |
| CMaj7#5 |
| CMaj7b5 |
| CMaj7Lyd |
| CMaj9#11 |
| CMaj13 |
| CMaj13#11 |
| C7 |
| C7sus |
| C9 |
| C9sus |
| C13 |
| C13sus |
| C7b5 |
| C7#5 |
| C7b9 |
| C7#9 |
| C7b13 |
| C7#11 |
| C9b5 |
| C9#5 |
| C9b13 |
| C9#11 |
| C9#11b13 |
| C13b5 |
| C13#5 |
| C13b9 |
| C13#9 |
| C13#11 |
| C13#9#11 |
| C7b9b13 |
| C7b9#11 |
| C7b9#11b13 |
| C7#9b13 |
| C7#9#11b13 |
| C7#11b13 |
| C7b5b9 |
| C7b5b13 |
| C7b5b9b13 |
| C7b5#9 |
| C7b5#9b13 |
| C7#5b9 |
| C7#5#9 |
| C7#5#11 |
| C7#5b9#11 |
| C7#5#9#11 |
| C13b5b9 |
| C13b5#9 |
| C13#5b9 |
| C13#5#11 |
| C13#5b9#11 |
| C13#5#9 |
| C13#5#9#11 |
| C7alt |
| C7susb13 |
| C7sus#11 |
| C7sus#11b13 |
| C7susb9 |
| C7susb9b13 |
| C7susb9#11 |
| C7susb9#11b13 |
| C7sus#9 |
| C7sus#9b13 |
| C7sus#9#11b13 |
| C7susb5 |
| C7susb5b13 |
| C7susb5b9 |
| C7susb5b9b13 |
| C7susb5#9 |
| C7susb5#9b13 |
| C7sus#5 |
| C7sus#5#11 |
| C7sus#5b9 |
| C7sus#5b9#11 |
| C7sus#5#9 |
| C7sus#5#9#11 |
| C9susb13 |
| C9sus#11 |
| C9sus#11b13 |
| C9susb5 |
| C9susb5b13 |
| C9sus#5 |
| C9sus#5#11 |
| C13sus#11 |
| C13susb9 |
| C13susb9b13 |
| C13susb9#11 |
| C13sus#9 |
| C13sus#9#11 |
| C13susb5 |
| C13susb5b9 |
| C13susb5#9 |
| C13sus#5 |
| C13sus#5#11 |
| C13sus#5b9 |
| C13sus#5b9#11 |
| C13sus#5#9 |
| C13sus#5#9#11 |

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[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in][Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]That listing would need to be reconciled with the BIAB manual, but it looks good to me and is a good starting point to finish what I tried to do yesterday. So I just added [chords] to the first line and [chordsend] to the last line, copied and pasted-special into BIAB. Then I used the chord feature [with chord feature be sure to check "complex chords" in BIAB along with the Notation view and Chord view . Interesting (and curiously odd crazy) results.

By the way, I don't believe that the style has any thing to do with how the chords are built! Oh, and one more thing, I think this subject has been well discussed in past years. So no real surprizes here. smirk

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Well done. smile
Of course, BIAB has been around for so long, so the chords will often be a topic of conversation, and now again.
The chords do show that there is a maximum of a 4-note chord.

In the picture, the bar numbers 33...36 all show the same chord ?
Of course, you have diatonic chords (to the scale) chords, and based on C major, you can't make all the chords that are listed, right?
diatonic chords (to the scale)
C | Dm | Em | F | G | Am | Bdim | , recognise the basic chords
Cmaj7 | Dm7 | Em7 | Fmaj7 | G7 | Am7 | Bm7♭5 |
Cmaj9 | Dm9 | Em9 | Fmaj9 | G9 | Am9 | Bm7♭5(9) |
Dm11 | Em11 | Fmaj11 | Am11 |
Cmaj13 | Dm13 | Em13 | Fmaj13 | G13 | Am13


I'm working on pop chords, and compared to jazz chords, these are simple.
Nice work with that chord overview in PDF.

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This is an interesting test scenario and I’ll try to find some time to work on it. If your goal is to make a test song that will play all possible chord types so you can audition the chords, and you are using RealTracks, then at a minimum you must turn off Natural Arrangement. BIAB will attempt to make sense of a nonsensical chord progression unless you do this. What other problems might arise from BIAB’s attempts to use the artificial intelligence for sensible voice leading, I don’t know.


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I do have a chord progression, but don't know how to test this yet ?
DrDan , your test is made with c major scale , so some chords will be not audible.

Then the question is: which chords can BIAB play, and which scales do they belong to?

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Originally Posted by janhardo
DrDan , your test is made with c major scale , so some chords will be not audible.
?? Not sure what to make of this statement. crazy While the root note of all the chords you provided was C, they certainly are not diatonic to the key of C. Nor limited to the C major scale. If I named something "key of C", that is incorrect. All these chords were audible. Well, except "CBlues" which is poorly named as a chord and BIAB ignored. So I am still not sure where you are going with this, but thats OK. I will just follow along. grin


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To see all of the chords that BiaB is capable of playing click on options/chord builder/chord picker then on the drop down memu. See pic.

But as noted many RTs may not play all of these chords.

This leads me to this. Maybe if BiaB and RB could incorporate ARA2 then one could run a program like Melodyne and BiaB simultaneously to generate the exact chord and chord inversion one is looking for via copy, and paste.

I use Melodyne in my DAW to rework RTs so I know that the process does work. The question is can BiaB and RB incorporate AAR2.

The what scale goes with what chord is theory and that information is available on the Internet and in many theory books.

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We can't look under the bonnet of BIAB to see exactly how it's programmed musically.

You can't create all those chords you can enter into BIAB with the C major scale, can you?

All the chords are audible, but not with the correct notes, because there is an example in the picture of four bars that have different chord symbols but show the same notes in the chord.

You also have this situation in Cubase.
I do not know the answer to this.

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I’m still lost. The key it’s in has no bearing on the discussion here. Having the ‘wrong’ key signature can produce wrong enharmonic spellings and an occasional bad choice of upper extension, but my comments on that fell flat with no acknowledgement or interest.

This diagram https://drive.google.com/file/d/12ZdDoDvkX3JfatA82fLP8oy-nzrgPT4S/view

Is a mess. I don’t know how that was produced but draw no conclusions from it. I started reading and it’s way wrong.


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The chord images are not correct, but the chord symbols are.
So yes, you can only listen to the chord quality in a song.
It is important to know which chords you are dealing with, because they can be divided into a number of groups.
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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
This diagram https://drive.google.com/file/d/12ZdDoDvkX3JfatA82fLP8oy-nzrgPT4S/view

Is a mess. I don’t know how that was produced but draw no conclusions from it. I started reading and it’s way wrong.

Matt, you are correct. I made an error in the use of the "Chords" feature. This has been corrected (see below)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15z22xPBBa0l8kkdaJvolMub7eAjbbdEm/view?usp=sharing

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One more thing Matt. Do you remember a few years ago there was a guy (... had his own web site and wrote BIAB styles and backing for some high end Jazz arrangement). He pretty much set PGM on fire with his claims that the midi chords were not doing what they claimed to do.


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It's not difficult to find software that can play all BIAB chords, but the question remains: why can't BIAB do this?
It must have something to do with the style, right?
A jazz style will recognise the chord notes if a jazz chord is used.
So doesn't the test with the chords tell us everything?
This is the musical programming of BIAB; I can't think of anything else.

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Well done. smile
Of course, BIAB has been around for so long, so the chords will often be a topic of conversation, and now again.
The chords do show that there is a maximum of a 4-note chord.

In the picture, the bar numbers 33...36 all show the same chord ?

If you generate a chord track and set the options to create complex chords, more advanced chords will be created.

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I’m beginning to catch on here.

Dan, after reading Noel’s post, that result makes more sense.

Oh yes, Dzjang, knows theory very well and his posts concentrated on bass line choices for chords. Very revealing info.

Noel, as far as I knew, that setting affected only Preferences, Output Chords to an external MIDI device. I haven’t used that function in a decade. I see now it applies to copying the chords to a utility track. Thanks.


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Well done, that's surprising, a surprisingly good chord representation!
The chords are definitely present in biab.
This now makes it possible to listen to some styles that use complex chords.
I have seen information about a style where the chord structure is shown.

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Noel as best I recall I did have that complex chords option selected. I will have to go back to the drawing board and repeat my exercise to confirm. Thanks for the input.

Yes, I see my error. I have corrected the notation chart. This is more aligned with what I had expected to see with this exercise.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15z22xPBBa0l8kkdaJvolMub7eAjbbdEm/view?usp=sharing

I will delete/correct the prior content. 3 am, can I go back to bed now? grin

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Hi Dan.

Wow! That pdf is a very impressive chord list. I have never seen all those chords fully displayed before.They look great and intimidating all at the same time!

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The complete chords list in groups, .make this sense ?
🎹 Summary of Chord Groups (Functional BIAB Classification)

Triads & Basic Colors
Fundamental chord colors and power structures
→ major, minor, augmented, diminished, sus, power chords, blues colors

Sixth & Add Chords
Tonic color extensions without dominant tension
→ add2, 6, 6/9 (major & minor)

Seventh Chords (Basic)
Core harmonic functions
→ major 7, minor 7, dominant 7, half-diminished, diminished

Extended Chords (9 / 11 / 13)
Natural extensions of seventh harmony
→ 9ths, 11ths, 13ths (major, minor, dominant, sus)

Major Color & Modal Chords
Non-functional / modal major colors
→ Lydian, #11, altered fifths in major harmony

Dominant – Basic Altered
Single alterations creating dominant tension
→ b5, #5, b9, #9, b13, #11

Dominant – Double & Triple Altered
High-tension dominant combinations
→ multiple alterations combined (#9 + b13, b9 + #11, etc.)

Heavily Altered 13 Chords
Maximum dominant density with 13th present
→ altered 13 chords with compound tensions

Suspended Dominant Families
Dominant function without a defining third
→ sus chords with altered tensions (b9, #11, b13, etc.)

Sus Extensions (9 & 13)
Extended suspended harmony
→ sus chords expanded with 9ths and 13ths
===================================================
Triads & Basic Colors |
Sixth & Add Chords |
Seventh Chords (Basic) |
Extended Chords (9 / 11 / 13) |
Major Color & Modal Chords |
Dominant – Basic Altered |
Dominant – Double & Triple Altered |
Heavily Altered 13 Chords |
Suspended Dominant Families |
Sus Extensions (9 & 13) |
Altered Dominant Summary
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| C | Cm | Caug | C+ | Cdim | Cdim5 | Csus | C2 |
| C4 | C5 | C5b | C(Blues) | | | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| Cadd2 | Cmadd2 | C6 | Cm6 | C69 | Cm69 | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| CMaj7 | Cm7 | CmMaj7 | C7 | C7sus | Cm7b5 | Cdim7 | |

| | | | | | | | |

| CMaj9 | Cm9 | Cm9b5 | C9 | C9sus | Cm11 | C13 | C13sus |
| Cm13 | | | | | | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| CMaj7#5 | CMaj7b5 | CMaj7Lyd | CMaj9#11 | CMaj13 | CMaj13#11 | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| C7b5 | C7#5 | C7b9 | C7#9 | C7b13 | C7#11 | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| C9b5 | C9#5 | C9b13 | C9#11 | C9#11b13 | C13b5 | C13#5 | C13b9 |
| C13#9 | C13#11 | C13#9#11 | | | | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| C7b9b13 | C7b9#11 | C7b9#11b13 | C7#9b13 | C7#9#11b13 | C7#11b13 | C7b5b9 | C7b5b13 |
| C7b5b9b13 | C7b5#9 | C7b5#9b13 | C7#5b9 | C7#5#9 | C7#5#11 | C7#5b9#11 | C7#5#9#11 |

| | | | | | | | |

| C13b5b9 | C13b5#9 | C13#5b9 | C13#5#11 | C13#5b9#11 | C13#5#9 | C13#5#9#11 | |

| | | | | | | | |

| C7susb13 | C7sus#11 | C7sus#11b13 | C7susb9 | C7susb9b13 | C7susb9#11 | C7susb9#11b13 | C7sus#9 |
| C7sus#9b13 | C7sus#9#11b13 | C7susb5 | C7susb5b13 | C7susb5b9 | C7susb5b9b13 | C7susb5#9 | C7susb5#9b13 |
| C7sus#5 | C7sus#5#11 | C7sus#5b9 | C7sus#5b9#11 | C7sus#5#9 | C7sus#5#9#11 | | |

| | | | | | | | |

| C9susb13 | C9sus#11 | C9sus#11b13 | C9susb5 | C9susb5b13 | C9sus#5 | C9sus#5#11 | |
| C13sus#11 | C13susb9 | C13susb9b13 | C13susb9#11 | C13sus#9 | C13sus#9#11 | C13susb5 | C13susb5b9 |
| C13susb5#9 | C13sus#5 | C13sus#5#11 | C13sus#5b9 | C13sus#5b9#11 | C13sus#5#9 | C13sus#5#9#11 | |

| | | | | | | | |

| C7alt | | | | | | | |
i like to hear those chords , but how to do this ?

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BIAB selects on of the four possibilities for a 7alt chord. I forget which one, but it works in all situations I’ve used it. You can audition this or any other supported chord in the Chord Builder window, or Shift+Enter, or by playing the song.


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Here is ths All Chords .sgu file for any who care to play with or listen to the chords.
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The account that argued about the chords (and often got into it with Notes Norton) was Finetuned (I don't remember their names, but they posted a lot on the forum). They sold after market MIDI styles in all 12 keys because they believed there was significant difference in the MIDI output depending on the key of the song.

They eventually had a going out of business sale, shut down their website, and disappeared from the forum. I did buy some of their styles at the time, but I couldn't really see a big difference in each of the 12 keys per style. Norton and PGMusic refuted that this was how it worked, and since Norton and PGMusic are still around, I tend to side with them based on my limited experience with their styles.


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