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This is part of discussing theory. I never said a group of notes was not a chord. You quoted me. But again, three (or even 4) notes does not necessarily define a chord, Note the word define. You actually said in your example that what the bass plays helps define it .. Suddenly E-G is not a 'C' or Em but a Dsus .. That is what Mario and I have said multiple times ... Again, even more important in defining it is What key is the song? (in your last post you stated the key signature in your example, so I think you're getting closer) What were the chords before/after? Knowing those two things gets you a lot closer to truly defining the chord. In certain situations your example could be right or wrong (theoretically) as to how to define that 'C' (or Em) over D chord.
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My understanding is that any combination of 2 or more notes does form a chord.
In Western music theory, a chord is a group of notes played together for their harmonic consonance or dissonance.
--Wikipedia Technicality it takes three different notes to form a chord, from https://theoryandsound.com/chord-construction/ and years of music theory learning on my part. "Dyads A Dyad is a set of 2 notes. Technically, they are not considered chords by strict music theory definition (which is 3 or more different pitches), however they can imply the character of chords from the interval between the notes." Every time I hear the term "power chord" the hair stands up on the back of my neck! A 1 & 5 of a scale does not make a chord! Dumb guitarist 
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[quote=Bass Thumper]................................................... Every time I hear the term "power chord" the hair stands up on the back of my neck! A 1 & 5 of a scale does not make a chord! Dumb guitarist The 1 - 5 intervals actually does have three notes. A power chord is a simplified version of a full chord, using only two notes: the root note and the fifth note from the corresponding scale...BUT the intermodulation of the perfect interval makes the spectrum of the sound expand in both directions, and with enough distortion, a new fundamental frequency component appears (essential a third note) an octave lower than the root note of the chord played without distortion, giving a richer, more bassy and more subjectively "powerful" sound than the undistorted. Just another dumb guitarist! :eek 
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A 1 & 5 of a scale does not make a chord! Dumb guitarist Power chords are useful because they are ambiguous, and only imply the chord. You can play an A5 for a A major or A minor, because they both work equally well/poorly. And they're typically played on the low guitar strings because... well, harmonics. It's not quite the same when a ukulele plays it - you can really tell something is missing.
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[quote=Bass Thumper]................................................... Every time I hear the term "power chord" the hair stands up on the back of my neck! A 1 & 5 of a scale does not make a chord! Dumb guitarist The 1 - 5 intervals actually does have three notes. A power chord is a simplified version of a full chord, using only two notes: the root note and the fifth note from the corresponding scale...BUT the intermodulation of the perfect interval makes the spectrum of the sound expand in both directions, and with enough distortion, a new fundamental frequency component appears (essential a third note) an octave lower than the root note of the chord played without distortion, giving a richer, more bassy and more subjectively "powerful" sound than the undistorted. Just another dumb guitarist! :eek This dumb guitarist is sticking by the "strict music theory definition" of a chord. {edit} IMHO calling just two notes a chord is just as bad as Fender calling tremolo vibrato and visa versa. I'm not trying to start a war between friends but even real 3 note chords have harmonics and we don't call them anything but triads do we. I say this in all due respect to you Dr. Dan.
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A 1 & 5 of a scale does not make a chord! Dumb guitarist Power chords are useful because they are ambiguous, and only imply the chord. You can play an A5 for a A major or A minor, because they both work equally well/poorly. And they're typically played on the low guitar strings because... well, harmonics. It's not quite the same when a ukulele plays it - you can really tell something is missing. Yes, I fully understand this but I was taught and I still believe the "strict music theory definition" of a chord. I have played Dyads many times and yes I have called them the false power chord nomenclature. I have to as if I said Dyad to most guitarist I would get the deer in the headlights look!
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Also, in BassThumper's example of the Dsus2 chord; depending on the chords around it, it could be an A7/D (implying the root and third) .. actually likely in some scenarios
So it's still a bit 'ambiguous' without the other information (chords around it)
As for power chords; it usually is 3 notes; root, 5th and octave above root! <grin>
/sorry, had to for the lulz
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Yes, I fully understand this but I was taught and I still believe the "strict music theory definition" of a chord. I agree. Despite the name, they're not chords. In the category of implied chords, it's sufficient in pop and jazz for the guitarist to play the root, third and seventh of the chord. That's because unlike ambiguous voicings, the third makes it enough to determine the chord type (major or minor) and the seventh the harmonic function. Heck, you can even just play the third and seventh, if you've got a bass player on the root. The implication is that the fifth is a perfect fifth, of course.
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