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Right After The Rainverse 1sad eyes at the window
looking at the rain
taillights fade into darkness
heading far away
you would have known he was leaving
if you believed the signs
but you were in love
and love is blind
love is so blindchorus look past the pain, you'll see it
right after the rain, believe it
life goes on
keep holding on
you're gonna
see a new dayverse 2the sunrise in the window
and still your mind replays
last night over and over
trapped inside a maze
you wonder how he could leave you
you feel so all alone
you wish you could run
but where would you go?
there's nowhere to gobridgethere's no good reason why
just wave those dreams goodbye
tomorrow will come and then
you'll be ready to start againrepeat chorusInstruments and EffectsMain Buss EZMix3 (Pop Master Modern EZ) HoRNet ThirtyOne MK2 GW MixCentric Kramer Tape Stereo Lead Vocal: SynthesizerV (Oscar 2) Vocal Rider GW VoiceCentric (Natural Vocal Mix + Delay) Rev Plate-140 High Vocal Harmony: SynthesizerV (Etta) GW VoiceCentric (Backing Vocals) Rev Plate-140 Low Vocal Harmony: SynthesizerV (Hayen 2) GW VoiceCentric (Backing Vocals) Rev Plate-140 Piano/Held Piano: MIDI Acoustic Piano (1) TrackSpacer (ducking lead vocal) Guitar 1: 625:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Rascal Sw 075 Guitar 1 Holds: UFX Reverb (Warm) Guitar 2: 4198:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking SongwriterGentleFolkRock Ev 100 UFX Reverb (Plate + Delay) Bass: MIDI Finger Electric Bass (34) Modo Bass (60s P Bass, Fingerstyle) Drums: MIDI NashvilleSwing16^4-a:HiHat, Sidestick , b:Snare, Hihat Addictive Drums 2 (United Pop/Fat Sound) El. Piano: MIDI Acoustic Piano (1) The Famous E (Wide Ballad Chorus) Fingerpicked Guitar: Hoard Picked Acoustic The StoryTL;DR: All comments welcome!  Edit: Yes, they are synthetic voices, so feel free to complain and motivate me to sing! They were done in SynthesizerV, so I still wrote all the notes and harmonies. If it helps, think of this as a demo (although I'm unlikely to do a different version). After taking way too long to get started on a new song, I finally gave up on waiting for inspiration to strike and picked a demo track like I usually do. This time around, it was AGRASCL. I figured that instead of trying to come up with some clever chord progression, I'd stick with simple I/IV/V chords, and made a point of not having any Maj7 chords. Then I went back and added in a bunch of Maj7 chords to the chorus, because they sound great.  I thought I'd go for something in my wheelhouse - a 70's sounding track, middle of the road pop. Maybe an "America" (the band) sort of sound. As usual, do not listen to while operating heavy machinery. I then exported the backing track as a .wav, and loaded it into SynthV. I drew out the melody for the verse and chorus in the piano roll, making sure that they sounded different. Hopefully the chorus sounds like a chorus. Time for some lyrics! As usual, it was a struggle to come up with anything. I pretended I was facing a real deadline, and typed and typed until eventually I put down words that rhymed. Yay! This wasn't going to be a some with some heavy message. The chorus doesn't explicitly mention them, but if you were wondering what you see after the rain... yeah, it's rainbows. I'd hoped to blend some ideas about surviving an emotional flood - you know, Noah's ark and such - into the song, but the lyrics refused to play ball. But at least I got some alliteration in. And yes, I rhymed "on" with "on". Sue me. Maybe I'll rewrite the line Keep holding on to The storm is gone or something. The synth singers won't complain. About this time, it became clear that the bridge was going to make more sense after the secondverse, so I moved it there. That's usually where it goes anyway, but up to that point I wasn't exactly sure what the song's form was going to be. Sometimes that bit just morphs into an instrumental, and sometimes I need a third verse. But with the song's slow tempo, there was only room for two verses. Yay - even less lyrics to write. The second verse was a bit of a problem. I really wanted to make that Noah's ark connection, with a dove flying over the receding waters looking for dry land, but it wasn't happening. As it is, there's this time jump, and who is this omniscient narrator, anyway? I suppose it's the person talking to themselves. Yeah, that's the ticket. What really irritated me was using the word "leave" in the first and second verse. Yeah, "you" appears a bunch of times in the second verse, but it's a different kind of repetition. That's that's the lie I'm telling myself, anyway. Predicatibly, the lyrics for the bridge was also a struggle. It turns out that some words don't have a lot rhymes, and those were the ones I chose to use. Kudos to all you folk who can crank out lyrics, my hat's off to you! Once the lyrics were finished, it was time to go back to Band in a Box and export the tracks into my DAW. I had a couple guitar RealTracks that I tried out, but they didn't really work. I made a version of the song with held chords, and exported those tracks as well. I noticed there were a couple of MIDI tracks in the style, so I exported those as well. I ended up replacing the bass and drums with MIDI bass and drums. I also used the MIDI piano tracks for the electric piano, simplifying it a bit. All the MIDI tracks got edited a bit, so the introduction was less busy, and the bass hits some parts I wanted to emphasize. I also fiddled with the vocals, bouncing back and forth between SynthV and my DAW. I also heavily edited the syllables to make sure they vocals were level, and edited all the plosives and sibilants. I added Vocal Rider to the track for good measure. Does it work? Am I releasing it too soon? Or just overthinking things? The heck if I know. As usual, all comments are welcome!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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I am so impressed with this track. I can't say that it's the best you've ever done (because I haven't heard them all!), but it is quite possibly the best song of yours I've heard so far.
Lyrics: tick
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Vocals: tick (because even though they were synthetic, they were well chosen and carried the song well).
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David,
Your productions are always amazing and filled with inspiration. Incredible work...
Loved it!
Bob
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Haha. You can't go wrong with Maj7. When I first read you weren't going to use them, I say aloud, "Noooo, David."
Man, this is a good song. Good job on the vocals too. I'm not sure how hard that part is, but this sounds perfect. Excellent mix and you brought in the Goldilocks band. Inspiring work, David.
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I think it's a very good production and your mastery of Syntesizer V is excellent. Well done!
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Hi, Brian. I am so impressed with this track. I can't say that it's the best you've ever done (because I haven't heard them all!), but it is quite possibly the best song of yours I've heard so far. Thanks! Sometimes I can't tell if a song is done, or I'm just tired of working on it.  Vocals: tick (because even though they were synthetic, they were well chosen and carried the song well). Thanks for that! I keep promising myself that eventually I'll start singing again, and each time I think "I'll do it on the next song." I appreciate you listening and commenting.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Hi, Bob. Your productions are always amazing and filled with inspiration. Incredible work... Thanks! I remember starting out with a 4 track cassette player, a cheap drum machine, and a nylon string guitar. That's something that you could use to excellent results. I'm just happy I've got to tools that let me get close to some of those sounds I love so much.  Thanks for stopping to comment!
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Hi, Marty. Haha. You can't go wrong with Maj7. When I first read you weren't going to use them, I say aloud, "Noooo, David." Apparently, the smarter half of my brain said that as well. Man, this is a good song. Good job on the vocals too. I'm not sure how hard that part is, but this sounds perfect. Excellent mix and you brought in the Goldilocks band. There's a new feature in SynthV where you can turn a dial and convert a single singer into a group. It's the same singer, but with variations, so it's super-easy to create a large backing group. I had a lot of fun with that feature. I just found out that SynthV now has a set of "choral" voices. I don't know that I need that, but it's tempting. Thanks for stopping by to listen and comment!
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Hi, Laurent. I think it's a very good production and your mastery of Syntesizer V is excellent. Well done! Thanks!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Hi David!
A second listen allowed me to get a glimpse of all small touches here and there that add to this song. I particularly like the touches at the end of the verses (where the holds are). This song could easily be used in a TV series or the credit roll on a Hallmark movie - and I mean this in the best sense - heartwarming.
I like the Nashville Swing drums, and would have preferred a touch more bass volume and movement in the chorus - but that’s me.
I think we need to start two forum petitions:
1. David to sing
2. Write without maj7 chords
A lot of effort has gone into this song, as evidenced by your extensive (liked by me) write up.
Well done and enjoyed it.
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Nicely done, David! Cool song. I really like the arrangement, and especially the vocal arrangement. Think you nailed the America-style BGV/harmony approach and they give the song a nice lift. Nicely mixed, too. Thanks as always for the production notes, though you doth protest too much based on the outcome. You've done a nice job with the synth vocals, but it would be cool to hear you take the lead, too. Maybe next time.
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Hi, Andrew. A second listen allowed me to get a glimpse of all small touches here and there that add to this song. I particularly like the touches at the end of the verses (where the holds are). This song could easily be used in a TV series or the credit roll on a Hallmark movie - and I mean this in the best sense - heartwarming. Thanks! I like the Nashville Swing drums, and would have preferred a touch more bass volume and movement in the chorus - but that’s me. I was too lazy to mess with the bass other than on the verse, but I'll take a look. I'll also boost the bass when my computer's audio stops misbehaving. I think we need to start two forum petitions:
1. David to sing
2. Write without maj7 chords Heh. Be careful what you ask for! A lot of effort has gone into this song, as evidenced by your extensive (liked by me) write up. Weirdly, every time I sit down to write a song, it feels like I have to re-learn everything from scratch. Like, "How do you write lyrics?" because my mind draws a blank. Well done and enjoyed it. Thanks!
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Hi, Ron. Nicely done, David! Cool song. I really like the arrangement, and especially the vocal arrangement. Think you nailed the America-style BGV/harmony approach and they give the song a nice lift. Nicely mixed, too. I'm glad to hear it! Sometimes I work with the song so long, I can't really hear it any more, so to speak. Thanks as always for the production notes, though you doth protest too much based on the outcome. You've done a nice job with the synth vocals, but it would be cool to hear you take the lead, too. Maybe next time. It may sound like I'm fishing for compliments, but I'm not kidding - sometimes it's hard to tell. My kids will listen and say "It's fine" and go back to playing Animal Crossing or watching Once Upon A Time. And I know better than to ask my wife, because our musical tastes are different. I think just about every songwriter (other than J&B) on the forum know that story. I think this song goes up to a high "E", and that's stretching it for me. I can usually hit a high "D" (fairly reliably thanks to Melodyne) but any higher than that during the winter is really pushing things! But hopefully I can shame myself into it. Thanks again!
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Hi David. I really enjoyed listening. Your production notes are extremely thorough and very informative. I always find it a pleasure to listen to your work and discover the journey that you took to get to the final product. You have a very extensive knowledge across a great deal of areas. Similar to what you said about AGRASCL, I also sometimes begin a song by finding a style that I like and using ideas from a chord progression for the demo of that style. In fact, with the song I'm currently working on, I did exactly that. Your lyrics were great. Because you mentioned about rhyming 'on' with 'on', I want to let you know that that whole sequence of lyrics that you've labeled "chorus" sat really comfortably with me. look past the pain, you'll see it
right after the rain, believe it
life goes on
keep holding on
you're gonna
see a new day In this sequence, you have 'pain' and 'rain' rhyming as well as 'see it' and believe it'. Since these rhymes happen in quick succession, it's actually creates a good aural effect when you get to "life goes on, keep holding on". No obvious end rhyme is needed. The sonic connection of the repeated "on" works well. It sets up the last phrase "you're gonna see a new day" really nicely. Honestly, you don't need to change a thing. That said, if you wanted to create a further sonic connection, you could add "bold" before "new day". This would work as it links back to "holding". As I said at the start, I really enjoyed listening --Noel
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Hi David,
I always enjoy reading your stories about the songs you've created. You always describe your challenges as if they were voyages of discovery.
I think you had to make even more adventurous choices in this story than in the previous one, but I'm not sure anymore. I enjoy all your stories.
And about the song itself: it's a beautiful song with some really good duets in the AI vocals. Fantastic. The melody is also very nice, the instruments all sound clear. I do have some reservations about the kick drum, but that's not the point.
I'd like to mention one "but":
When I hear the song (I don't mean the – good – lyrics), I picture a happy, laughing couple, madly in love, in spring, among the beautiful flowers and the birds darting around them. There's nothing wrong with that, just a little too sweet for my taste. Nothing unexpected happens, while with a title like "After the Rain," I'd expect exciting twists and turns.
Well, nobody always gets what they want.
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David,
A nice write. So hopeful. Really like the melody.
A sweet, "gentle" production. Very supportive of the lyric and its message.
Your singers do a good job - all of them.
Well mixed.
I enjoyed the listen. Something about it made me "feel good" by the end...
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David, you do absolutely fantastic with those synth voices. You make them sound real.
Loved the groove and the backing band.
You can never go wrong with a Maj 7 chord.
Super mix
Loved it.
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To answer your questions: yes, it works, releasing too early is better than not releasing at all, and yes, you tend to overthink things a little  This Oscar dude is a pretty good singer and suits the song very well. Good choice. Also good choice of instruments minus the hihat in the intro, it sounds a bit cheap and MIDI-esque. The chorus could be a little more dynamic (both in terms of volume and instrumentation) so that it stands out better from the verses. But overall, the production is pretty good ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif) Enjoyed my listen! PS: Get a faster computer to run Synth V in your DAW. It's much more natural not to constantly switch back and forth between DAW and Synth V, and you don't have to constantly leave "the zone".
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Hi, Noel. I really enjoyed listening. Thanks, that's the most important bit. Your production notes are extremely thorough and very informative. I always find it a pleasure to listen to your work and discover the journey that you took to get to the final product. You have a very extensive knowledge across a great deal of areas. Similar to what you said about AGRASCL, I also sometimes begin a song by finding a style that I like and using ideas from a chord progression for the demo of that style. In fact, with the song I'm currently working on, I did exactly that. It's also helpful when I want to try something different than my usual style. When browsing through the styles, I'll typically reject a lot of out hand because they aren't really "my style", but I should make an effort to use them, because it never hurts to stretch a bit. Mario is a perfect example of someone who constantly goes outside his comfort zone. Your lyrics were great. Because you mentioned about rhyming 'on' with 'on', I want to let you know that that whole sequence of lyrics that you've labeled "chorus" sat really comfortably with me. Thanks for the write up! I appreciate it. I understand that conceptually, I just wish my brain had been more creative when coming up with lyrics. Thanks again for your kind and thoughtful feedback!
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Hi, Hans. I always enjoy reading your stories about the songs you've created. You always describe your challenges as if they were voyages of discovery.
I think you had to make even more adventurous choices in this story than in the previous one, but I'm not sure anymore. I enjoy all your stories. The prior song was a real adventure. My attitude there was keep working on it until it's right. On this, it was work fast, until it's done. Because of this, I think the narrative is less clear. My daughter noted the time jump to the second verse is jarring, and the identity of the narrator is unclear. The narrative in my mind was about a lover who had left for good, leaving his lover devastated. That obviously didn't come through. That is, of course, entirely my fault. And to some extent, it doesn't matter, because the heart of the song is the chorus. The verses justify the chorus, and it's much more positive than the verses. And about the song itself: it's a beautiful song with some really good duets in the AI vocals. Fantastic. The melody is also very nice, the instruments all sound clear. There's a new feature in SynthV which makes it trivial to double voices, and I had fun with that. [quote I do have some reservations about the kick drum, but that's not the point.[/quote] I'll have another listen in a couple of days. It's MIDI, so I can swap out the kick for another. I'd like to mention one "but":
When I hear the song (I don't mean the – good – lyrics), I picture a happy, laughing couple, madly in love, in spring, among the beautiful flowers and the birds darting around them. There's nothing wrong with that, just a little too sweet for my taste. Nothing unexpected happens, while with a title like "After the Rain," I'd expect exciting twists and turns. Well, this song takes place after they were madly in love, on the rainy day her lover decides to leave her: verse 1You're looking out the window, watching your lover drive away and leave you for good.
There were signs that this would happen, but you didn't want to believe them.verse 2You've been up all night, thinking over and over again about how he left you.
You'd like to run away like he did, but you're stuck here being miserable.bridgestop trying to make sense of this,
sometimes things just don't work outchorusyou're miserable now,
but tomorrow it will hurt less, and life will go on for youWell, nobody always gets what they want. Well, in this case, you actually got exactly what you wanted! Thanks for your comments, I see what can be done about that kick drum.
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Hi, floyd jane. A nice write. So hopeful. Really like the melody.
A sweet, "gentle" production. Very supportive of the lyric and its message. Thanks! I think it's a bit too gentle - people heard the melody, but didn't seem to notice the lyrics. Your singers do a good job - all of them.
Well mixed. Thanks, I appreciate that. I enjoyed the listen. Something about it made me "feel good" by the end... It was probably all those Maj7th chords. Thanks for stopping to listen and comment!
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Hi, Mario. David, you do absolutely fantastic with those synth voices. You make them sound real. Well, it helps that I can write to the voice, instead of the other way around. I can listen to the "emotion" in the "la" that the synth voice is singing, and try to match that lyrically.  Loved the groove and the backing band.
You can never go wrong with a Maj 7 chord.
Super mix
Loved it Thanks! PS - I am also a big fan of the UFX Reverb. I got the "complete" UJAM collection, so now I'm obliged to try to use them in my songs. Thanks again!
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Hi, B.D. To answer your questions: yes, it works, releasing too early is better than not releasing at all, and yes, you tend to overthink things a little Heh. Also, releasing it "early" means people can steer me in the right direction when I've gone wrong, or stop me from overthinking things! This Oscar dude is a pretty good singer and suits the song very well.
Good choice. He's got a bit of a "cry" in his voice, which I think works well for an understated song. Also good choice of instruments minus the hihat in the intro, it sounds a bit cheap and MIDI-esque. Do you mean only the intro, or into the first verse as well. It would be easy enough to pare it down to just the kick drum, which was my first inclination. I'll play around with holding off the high hat until a bit later, and simplifying the kick, after a couple of days. The chorus could be a little more dynamic (both in terms of volume and instrumentation) so that it stands out better from the verses. I'll give that some more thought, thanks. I'd considered adding some orchestration to it, but wasn't really hearing it. But overall, the production is pretty good Enjoyed my listen! That's enough for me! PS: Get a faster computer to run Synth V in your DAW.
It's much more natural not to constantly switch back and forth between DAW and Synth V, and you don't have to constantly leave "the zone". My computer is fast enough. Part of it has to do with being leery of making the DAW crash (early versions of SynthV didn't work well in DAWS). But I like being able to toggle back and forth. It's fast, and when I'm in SynthV, I can focus only on the vocal. The workflow works for me, although what you suggest would probably work better. Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it!
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Do you mean only the intro, or into the first verse as well. Mostly in the intro, later it blends in and is less noticeable. You're using a MIDI track, so I would just use a smoother sample and some volume automation to make it sound less robotic.
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I think you may get the award for the longest song introduction. I don't mind the synth vocals. I think it would be to cumbersome for me to put them together. It's easier for me to make 10+ vocal takes until I get it halfway right. Beautiful melody and arrangement. Yes, there is some 70s flavor but the sound is a style of its own.
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A pleasant pop song, what else to expect That chord progression leaves a luscious aftertaste - you surely know how to keep it interesting - and you surely know that I love maj7ths The melody is beautiful and the lead vocalist brings out its nuances nicely (although his breathiness sounds bit harsh). The arrangement & mix is mellow but not too sweet, the bass and the drums add the needed punch. And I like how all the instruments sound equal and let the song shine. Nice hopeful message. Janne
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Hey David,
I really enjoyed multiple listenings of your lovely song.
Your art is more than just art, it's a whole new thing, especially with those SynthV notes you make. You really make those voices come alive, it's like magic! I think your songs have hidden beats.
And those notes you write? They're awesome stories and really interesting. I look forward to reading them almost as much as listening to your music.
Each time you put out a new song, it feels like you've made things even better than your previous creation.
Keep doing what you do. I'll be here, listening carefully and learning a lot.
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Do you mean only the intro, or into the first verse as well. Mostly in the intro, later it blends in and is less noticeable. I edited the drum track a bit, and simplified it in the introduction. I also switched the hihat into ride for the last chorus, because the ride doesn't get enough love in my songs. I also adjustment some levels, added a drum flam, extended the drums at the end, editing the bass part a bit on the second verse with a bit "disco octaves", added some bass harmonics, and some other polishing. Basically, nothing anyone will ever notice.
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Hi, Scott. I think you may get the award for the longest song introduction. What? There's an award for that? I don't mind the synth vocals. I think it would be to cumbersome for me to put them together. It's easier for me to make 10+ vocal takes until I get it halfway right. Everyone has a system that works for them. When I do my own vocals, I'm usually lazy and only do a handful, and then fix the timing and pitch manually, because after a while I just get depressed listening to me miss the notes over and over again.  Beautiful melody and arrangement. Yes, there is some 70s flavor but the sound is a style of its own. Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.
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Hi, Janne. A pleasant pop song, what else to expect That chord progression leaves a luscious aftertaste - you surely know how to keep it interesting - and you surely know that I love maj7ths Who doesn't? I'm sure there are some people who don't like chocolate, but they live a sad life. The melody is beautiful and the lead vocalist brings out its nuances nicely (although his breathiness sounds bit harsh). Sorry, I liked the "rawness" of the vocal, so I didn't do that much to the high end. I'll have to listen again. The arrangement & mix is mellow but not too sweet, the bass and the drums add the needed punch. And I like how all the instruments sound equal and let the song shine. Nice hopeful message. Thanks! I'm glad it works for you.
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Hi, Izzy. I really enjoyed multiple listenings of your lovely song. Well, that's high praise right there. Your art is more than just art, it's a whole new thing, especially with those SynthV notes you make. You really make those voices come alive, it's like magic! I think your songs have hidden beats. I can't really take credit for the SynthV voices. I'm just happy they let me make songs without having to hear my own voice. As Clarke said, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. And those notes you write? They're awesome stories and really interesting. I look forward to reading them almost as much as listening to your music. Ha! Only interesting to another songwriter! I find the story behind songs fascinating, and everyone's got an different approach to doing things. It's cool getting a peek behind the curtain, and I've got no qualms admitting that (at least for me) songwriting is plain old hard work And sort of magic when it all comes together! Each time you put out a new song, it feels like you've made things even better than your previous creation. Thanks! And each time I start a song, I feel like I've forgotten how to do it. Keep doing what you do. I'll be here, listening carefully and learning a lot. Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment!
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What a cool song David. Loved the lyric and message. Excellent job on the vocals and harmonies. I did check out how these voices are done and it takes allot of work get these vocals to sound that good.
Super production and mix. Well done
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Firstly, we were amused and engaged reading your backstory. We thoroughly enjoyed it. The synth vocals sound good. No need to apologize for them. Heck, aren’t they like scoring and playing an instrument? The entire and and mix sound excellent on the monitors. You definitely accomplished the Americana band vibe Like you, we sometimes change the feel of the song several times in the making. Particularly after we match Janice’s melody/progression with Bud’s lyric. And we always enjoy your mix data. Wish more folks did that. Well done! J&B
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David,
Thank you so much for your thorough answer.
You wrote it so thoroughly and clearly.
I'm afraid I didn't catch that twist in the text about leaving her. Sorry for that.
Still it was a bit a 'sweet' song...
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Sounds like a lot of work, but worth it in the end. I have one criticism about the vocal. It's almost too exact in sound, dynamics and timing. Maybe introduce a little cough or sneeze? Vic
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Beautiful sounding track David! Sure, the vocal track is "perfect", but the arrangement deserves it!
Love the blending in of the harmony vocals mid-way through some of the lines.
You are great at these soft pop/rock tracks!
The mix and production are fab!
Thanks, TB
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Hi, Scott. What a cool song David. Loved the lyric and message. Thanks! Excellent job on the vocals and harmonies. I did check out how these voices are done and it takes allot of work get these vocals to sound that good. Yes - almost as much time as it takes to make me sound good. What I enjoy about this method is the flexibility it gives. I can change my mind about a phrase, decide to rewrite a melody, and so on without having to worry about re-recording it. But I can see how this method could be mind-numbingly tedious for others. Super production and mix. Well done Thanks again - I appreciate the feedback.
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Hi, Janice & Bud. Firstly, we were amused and engaged reading your backstory.
We thoroughly enjoyed it. That's why it's there. The synth vocals sound good.
No need to apologize for them.
Heck, aren’t they like scoring and playing an instrument? Yes, very much so. But unlike real instruments, music has to be adapted to fit the instrument, not the other way around. The entire and and mix sound excellent on the monitors.
You definitely accomplished the Americana band vibe Like you, we sometimes change the feel of the song several times in the making. Particularly after we match Janice’s melody/progression with Bud’s lyric. It's interesting how different people have different methods. Al Stewart apparently often wrote lots of different lyrics for a given melody. On the other hand, Elvis Costello would write different settings for the same lyrics until they fit. Whatever gets you to the finish line! And we always enjoy your mix data. Wish more folks did that. Mixing is one of the more mystical parts of this process. I'll work for hours and think I've got something perfect. They I'll hear it the next morning and wonder what I was thinking. And last-minute uploads can be horrible! I'll upload a song, and then hear a click somewhere, and spend the next 15 minutes trying to track it down, fixing it, re-uploading it, only to find something else I missed. And that's the easy part of mixing. I want to know how other people make the magic happen, so I can steal their ideas! Thanks again!
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Hi, Hans. Thank you so much for your thorough answer.
You wrote it so thoroughly and clearly.
I'm afraid I didn't catch that twist in the text about leaving her. Sorry for that.
Still it was a bit a 'sweet' song...
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Hi, Vic. Sounds like a lot of work, but worth it in the end. I have one criticism about the vocal. It's almost too exact in sound, dynamics and timing. Maybe introduce a little cough or sneeze? Heh. I've got a cold right now (the test I just took says it's not Covid), so I've got plenty of coughs and sneezes to spare. Thanks for listening and commenting!
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Hi, Torry. Beautiful sounding track David! Sure, the vocal track is "perfect", but the arrangement deserves it!
Love the blending in of the harmony vocals mid-way through some of the lines.
You are great at these soft pop/rock tracks! Thanks! Soft rock seems to be my default. I get done with a song, and my family says it's too slow. So I promise myself that next time it'll be up-tempo. Predictably... It's not. The mix and production are fab! Glad to hear it! Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment.
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Hi, DC. "Right After the Rain" is a very good soothing folk/pop song that harkens back to the mid 70s ballads but is still pertinent today. The bridge has welcome chord changes that give the tune variation and keeps interest. Harmonies come in at the right place and sound very good. I have used Audimee online to change my vocal as I like other vocals rather than my own, or I find vocalists on FiveRR or Airgigs, so I sure understand that.
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Sounds great, David, good write, good band, and you certainly know how to get the most out of the synth vocals.
I see you used EZMix3 for this, you usually use LMC if I remember correctly. Seems to have done the job for you, mix sounds fabulous.
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David,
Excellent song!
The interplay between the vocal solo and the duet is fantastic.
The use of MIDI gives this song a special flavor.
I also often use MIDI myself because it brings a sense of satisfaction to the production process.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
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Hi, John. "Right After the Rain" is a very good soothing folk/pop song that harkens back to the mid 70s ballads but is still pertinent today. The bridge has welcome chord changes that give the tune variation and keeps interest. Harmonies come in at the right place and sound very good. Exactly what I was aiming for, so thanks! I have used Audimee online to change my vocal as I like other vocals rather than my own, or I find vocalists on FiveRR or Airgigs, so I sure understand that. I keep threatening I'll start singing again, but then another illness sweeps through the house, or I get too attached to the synth vocal.  Thanks again, I appreciate the feedback!
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Hi, Dave. Sounds great, David, good write, good band, and you certainly know how to get the most out of the synth vocals. Thanks! I see you used EZMix3 for this, you usually use LMC if I remember correctly. Seems to have done the job for you, mix sounds fabulous. Yeah, I really like how Lurssen sounds, but I figure since I've got other tools, I should try them instead. Once of these days I'll really be daring and finally learn to mix with EQs and compression. Thanks for the feedback!
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Hi, Shigeki. I also often use MIDI myself because it brings a sense of satisfaction to the production process. I'll sometimes come back to a song an wonder "Who played that part", and be pleasantly surprised to find it was something I did myself. But only sometimes. Thanks for listening and posting!
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I'm very impressed with the voices. The realism is remarkable.
Great job on the song. And as always, I enjoy the information you provide in your posts
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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