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This caught my attention this morning. First $9 is a McDonald Sanwich with Coke and 2nd the demo sounds very nice. But I don't know nothing about this "loops" things. Back in the day I had a program called Fruity Loops. I remember it was fun to play with but this was before I started to get serious about my music and I never kept the program. Today I work primarily with MIDI and Cover Songs where I get Audio from YouTube and SMP.

I believe I am going to pay the $9 just to see what this can do. Unless, somehere tells me I should go get lunch at McDonalds instead. Can anyone advise?


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Here is a demo video of Elastik. Holy Cow, is any one actually doing this?


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I am very intrigued. Can I make my own loops - meaning can I imput a Audio snipet into Elastik and create my own library? How long can a loop be?


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No clue..... I can't figure out how things like that actually work. I could never get anything useful out of fruity loops.


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"No clue..... I can't figure out how things like that actually work. I could never get anything useful out of fruity loops"
You and me both! grin

I have been advised by a trusty forum member to look closely at https://splice.com/download for working with loops. And another who advised this is like stepping back to the 1990"s. And a third who advised that "nothing is really free", that $9 investment could end up costing me hundreds".


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Originally Posted by DrDan
You and me both! grin

I have been advised by a trusty forum member to look closely at https://splice.com/download for working with loops. And another who advised this is like stepping back to the 1990"s. And a third who advised that "nothing is really free", that $9 investment could end up costing me hundreds".

This reminds me of an old program called Acid, where you purchased loops and "created" songs with them. It was fun for a very short period of time but that was not what I wanted to make music. Today I will occasionally add a loop or two into my songs (drum loops, MIDI loops and sound effects) but I would never make a song completely out of loops.

This program looks much more advanced than Acid was but I think the concept is the same. This is not for me but YMMV.

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I am very intrigued. Can I make my own loops - meaning can I imput a Audio snipet into Elastik and create my own library? How long can a loop be?
The video shows Elastik importing loops onto a track, Elastik features you can use to alter the audio output of the imported loops and how loops can be combined to create a finished audio track. The video does not show what changes remain in the audio track if the plugin is removed from the track.
Band-in-a-Box also has audio loop creation capability. I believe Tobin with PG Music created a video demonstrating how you can highlight part of a track and create an audio loop. The thought was you might want to create an audio loop to use as a recurring riff.
Audio loops are generally short but the length really depends on the audio content and the expectation of how the audio loop might be used. For example a bass drum hit only needs to be as long as one note while an audio loop of an instrument riff might extend for four or eight bars.
A loop needs to have metadata. A percussion loop needs tempo metadata. Loops that can change pitch need tempo and key signature metadata.
There are good loops and bad loops. Good loop construction considers how a loop might be used, sample rate and how the beginning and end of a loop blends with what comes before and after the loop. For example a loop used in a 44.1k sample rate recording must contain exactly 44,100 samples. Too many or not enough and the loop audio will not match the rest of the audio and get out of sync.
Sometimes you will run across audio snippets that don't include metadata. They are not loops but instead are called shots because they are one time events that are not repeatable.
Last but not least most of my description applies to audio loops. But there are also midi loops.


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Many of the old Sampler type keyboards used loops to great effect (at the time), such as the S-series Rolands.
And years ago I made many loops.
Haven't played with them in years.
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Elastik 3 is very fun. Very advanced too. For 9 bucks, DrDan takes no risks, except the one of enjoying himself
Yep: "a McDonald Sanwich with Coke"?


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Sorry guys - best to just delete this entire thread. Tonalic has just been announced! grin


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