|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188 |
I purchased a new Dell I7 32 meg tower. The speed improvement with bBox is incredible - but...lots of snap crackle and pop with Motu Asio. I have done a lot of time researching and setting up with poor results. I did however notice that bBox plays audio perfectly with built in sound hardware and driver?
My goal is to use bBox daw plug in with Sonar. This seems to work fine with non Asio for bBox and Motu Asio on Cakewalk. Using loop back allows hearing everything through the Motu output. I also recorded into Sonar with nice results. I had no idea this was even possible. So far this appears to be my best solution. I recorded for about an hour without issues.
Anyone else using multiple drivers and devices? Any settings I should be aware of? Comments appreciated.
Thanks!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,057
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,057 |
... but...lots of snap crackle and pop with Motu Asio... Try adjusting the buffer size in the ASIO settings. If the buffer is too small it can give the effect you are describing.
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,455
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,455 |
If your MOTU uses multi-client ASIO drivers then you can use ASIO with both BiaB and Sonar. As AT suggested you can increase the buffers but that may yield latency in Sonar, you would have to check that out as I do not have a MOTU audio interface.
For many years I have been successfully running BiaB with MME drivers and ASIO drivers in my DAW. Using these two drivers I can run BiaB and my DAW simultaneously with absolutely no problems. I have used this method with a number of DAWs, including Sonar.
The bumper sticker said "I'm a veterinarian, therefore I can drive like an animal".
Suddenly I realized how many proctologists are on the road.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188 |
Thanks. I tried every setting and it makes no difference.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188 |
That sounds good. Nothing else worked for me Glad to know others use this successfully.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2023
Posts: 83
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2023
Posts: 83 |
There are some very knowledgeable folks here who probably have your answers, but I thought I'd share a recent similar journey that I had not long ago. I recently was experimenting with a Behringer UMC204HD interface with BIAB and I needed some settings suggestions to start from, so I put the question to ChatGPT and bingo, I got many suggestions which really helped a lot. (I used chatgpt.com, not the ChatPG here, which might be worth a try as well).
So I just put your Moto and BIAB to a ChatGPT question and received the following reply. I'm just mentioning that so if you haven't already tried the ChatGPT route or you've already received the answers you need here, it might be worth a try. I'd suggest not so much using the below info alone, but initiating a new chat tailored to your specifics. I also found in many instances followup questions in the same Chat thread really help open thing up for real good answers and suggestions.
==============================================================================
You said:
Motu Asio settings for band in a box
ChatGPT said:
Here are recommended MOTU ASIO settings for Band-in-a-Box (BIAB) that work well for most MOTU interfaces (M2, M4, Ultralite, 828, etc.) on Windows.
1. Band-in-a-Box Audio Settings
Open:
Options → Audio Settings
Audio Driver Type
✅ ASIO
ASIO Driver: MOTU Audio ASIO
2. Sample Rate (Important)
Set the same sample rate in BOTH:
Band-in-a-Box
MOTU Audio Console
Recommended:
🎵 44.1 kHz (best compatibility with BIAB RealTracks)
48 kHz also works, but 44.1 is safest
If they don’t match, you’ll get:
No sound
Crackles
Speed/pitch issues
3. Buffer Size / Latency
For BIAB playback & rendering (most users):
256 samples or 512 samples
If recording MIDI or live audio:
128 samples (low latency)
Go higher if you hear pops/clicks
BIAB does not need ultra-low latency unless you’re recording live.
4. ASIO Control Panel (MOTU)
Click ASIO Control Panel inside BIAB or open MOTU Audio Console directly.
Set:
Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz
Buffer Size: 256 or 512
Clock Source: Internal
Enable only the inputs/outputs you actually use (optional but cleaner)
5. Audio Outputs in BIAB
In Audio Settings:
Output Driver: MOTU Main Out (1–2)
Disable Windows audio devices (Realtek, etc.) to avoid conflicts
6. MIDI Settings (If Using MIDI)
If using BIAB MIDI synths:
MIDI Output: Microsoft GS Wavetable (basic)
Better: VSTi/DXi Synth (CoyoteWT, Kontakt, etc.)
Enable:
✅ Use VST/DXi Synth
7. Prevent Common Problems
Windows Sound Settings
Set MOTU as Default Playback & Recording device
Disable Exclusive Mode:
Sound Control Panel → MOTU → Properties → Advanced
❌ Uncheck “Allow applications to take exclusive control”
Power Settings
Windows Power Plan: High Performance
Disable USB power saving
8. Recommended “Stable” Setup (Summary)
BIAB
ASIO: MOTU
Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz
Buffer: 256–512
MOTU Console
44.1 kHz
Internal clock
Same buffer size
9. If You Tell Me:
I can dial this in exactly if you share:
Your MOTU model
Whether you record audio, just playback, or use MIDI
Windows version (10 or 11)
That lets me give you best-possible latency vs stability settings for your setup 🎶
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 188 |
Very helpful. I did almost same with Gemini and got similar results Ai also confirmed that dual drivers has advantages.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2023
Posts: 83
Enthusiast
|
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2023
Posts: 83 |
My PC is using a Creative Audigy FX internal sound card for playing music, playing videos and general stuff and only keep it because it has a sub out jack that I use for those purposes. It's been installed for a long time and working great. I don't rely on it for the other things that I do, so I started experimenting with the UMC204HD and using them in the same computer with the same windows 10 and the same BIAB and the same speakers (Reaper and Davinci Resolve and a few others also). I fought with the dual driver issues until I did the chat scenario and "they" walked me right through the correct settings to use and how to switch back and forth. Now everything works perfectly. One of the main solutions is I'm using a USB switch (suggested by chat) on the UMC and an A/B speaker switch (again suggested by chat) and let windows automatically choose which device to input from and output to. That seems to have solved my dual driver problems.
The AI stuff is really getting kinda scary......
Last edited by BluegrassPicker; 01/15/26 08:36 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,609
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,609 |
messrs presley and picker....and any lurkers. you might find this usefull like others have re setting up and optimising a pc for music production. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=795663#Post795663please note especially the comment re low dpc latency of a host pc. as well as the issue of running the net off the same pc as being used for music production. best....and happiness to all. om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 01/16/26 10:26 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,969
Posts798,417
Members39,998
| |
Most Online44,367
05:50 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean