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I have an an old guitar track with noticable wow and flutter. Best I see RX11 claims to address this but I don't own a copy. Any one able to take this track and try to fix this problem for me?
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I have an an old guitar track with noticable wow and flutter. Best I see RX11 claims to address this but I don't own a copy. Any one able to take this track and try to fix this problem for me? You might try using Melodyne manually... I've had some success, but it can be somewhat laborious.
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thanks for suggestion. I already have Melodyn on this track to pitch correct. I was told it was in Key of Am, but that was off when I added an Organ and Bass to play along with the guitar - in fact both original Vocal and guitars (the only tracks on the old master) were out of pitch. Melodyn did a good job fixing that problem. But I didn't even think about using it for the wow and flutter. I am pretty confident Isotope RX will fix this (I have seen what that can do in the past). Turns out I can get a free 10 day trail. I may do that if no one can help here.
So I just tried in Melodyn - no joy. Made things worse! Fact is I don;t really know what I am doing in this case. I watched a RX video on the topic and will try the free trail.
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Dan a program for Wow and Flutter is by Celemony and it is called Capstan. Capstan
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Thanks, I did see that. But is this for real?? ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=32241&filename=Screenshot 2026-01-24 115434.jpg)
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Dan a program for Wow and Flutter is by Celemony and it is called Capstan. Capstanand it's also for rent...
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Kind of the reason I was hoPing we could helP each other out at times, on a very limited basis. I have a ton of "music tools" to edit audio tracks that I would be glad to use if someone needed me to edit a file. I think that would be within the scoPe of any license. RX11 is unusually exPensive when you just need a simPle infrequent usage.
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Dude, you're 'P'ing all over everything  Gotta be careful with that in public
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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My keyboard is broken. I have no lowercase P any longer. I’ve got another keyboard somewhere around here.
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Yea I knew the price is out there for sure. I have most of the RX stuff but none of it does Wow & Flutter I believe.
That restoration biz is some serious software and money for sure!
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I think I only have the RX 10 standard.
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DrDan, I was on this journey a few years back and Capstan appeared at that time to have the market cornered. And no competition means no competitive pricing.
Have thought more than once in the last few months that AI must have SOME kind of processing power that can unscrew wow and flutter...
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The suite of free air windows plugins
Which a lot of Studios go Bonkers over
Has a flutter plugin called flutter 2.
Also for pups clicks and Noise there is of course the PG noise removal plugin which on certain tracks might be useful I found.
Om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 01/25/26 06:47 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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All...
The suite of free air windows plugins
Which a lot of Studios go Bonkers over
Has a flutter plugin called flutter 2.
Also for pups clicks and Noise there is of course the PG noise removal plugin which on certain tracks might be useful I found.
Om Om Dan is trying to remove Wow & Flutter from an old recording caused by the tape recording. The program you suggest is adding flutter not correcting it from what I seen.
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Hi Brian
Apologies I was tied up with something else.... and thought it was good for reducing wow and flut...sigh.
Happiness
Om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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One final comment. Wow and Flutter is not noise which can be filtered or EQ'ed out. It is a corruption of the track due to actual phyical damage to the tape on which the music was recorded. This issue, best I know, is isolated to old processing - pre digital music making. But many of you know that better than I.
My current efforts are the first time I have encountered this. Hense, I never needed a tool to fix it. I did what I could by placing a new melodic instrument (Organ) to play over the wobbly guitar while I reduced its volume. The really bad stuff was isolated to the first 25% of the guitar part. So I could bring the guitar back in for the solo and later verse.
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All is good OM. I think I have a plugin that adds that scratchy record sound and to give it that real retro sound eh.
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I can see why a tool to remove wow and flutter would be expensive. Not only is there infrequent demand at this time. but also the computational requirement would be substantial. It’s not like finding one thing to filter out digitally. A tape deck out of adjustment produces a constantly changing effect on the recording. Dan alluded to this by the end of the track being less problematic.
Thanks for the walk back in time.
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Wow & flutter is normal for tape recordings - it's always there to some degree.
Remedy #1 - well not a remedy but can help- is to play back on the device it was recorded upon - particularly if the device is still in the condition when recorded.
Melodyne could reduce the pitch fluctuations if carefully done - like on a phrase by phrase if not note by note basis.
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