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Whether playing or exporting to .mp3, the first beat of the count-in does not play. I tested 1-bar and 2-bar count-ins. I tried different count-in patterns. I tried different count-in instruments. No matter what I tried, the first sound/note of the count-in does not play/is muted. For example, for the 2-bar pattern "1-3-1234", the first "1" is silent. I hear "--3-1234".

I have never paid close enough attention to notice this myself. I found this out while responding to a post in the German forum by user swazy.

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What style were you using. That would really help testing.


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I've experienced similar issues, but was never sure if my sound output had muted until it received a signal.

Please give more detail on the style, the specific count-in options, and more and we can attempt to repeat. (I do agree that there can be issues).


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We do need more info on this. It will either be a RealTrack drum lead-in or a Midi drum lead-in. Also it would be a good idea to know what Midi synth you have chosen just in case it is a Midi drum-lead in.

I have see this happen in the past.

For am example of what could go wrong, I am currently playing a song using _Thumb.sty and it's associated demo song and the 1st beat of my drum lead-in is a few DB down from counts 2-3-1-2-3-4. It is not missing, just noticeably down in volume. It is a RealDrum track, not Midi.

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For my test, I used "Blue Monk.sgu" from the Norton_Music_Fake_Disks F37 The Real Book Vol 1 6th ed. It uses a RealDrums track. You're correct that the first beat is there, but at very low volume. What is totally bizarre is that when I maxed out the volume for the Song (from 0 to 36), the first beat was not only audible, but noticeably louder than the beat on 3 (for a 1-3-1214 count-in). IMO, that's a behavior that needs fixing.


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I won't be able to test anything since I do not have that particular SGU file. I did test some random songs with different styles and I can sense that the 1st beat is lower than the rest of the counts on everything I tested. I actually have known this for a while now but never brought it up since is was not important to me.

That said, I do not know why this occurs.


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Originally Posted by Joseph Land
I won't be able to test anything since I do not have that particular SGU file. I did test some random songs with different styles and I can sense that the 1st beat is lower than the rest of the counts on everything I tested. I actually have known this for a while now but never brought it up since is was not important to me.

That said, I do not know why this occurs.

I've noticed it myself and always assumed it was buffers loading at the very beginning.


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Originally Posted by Joseph Land
I won't be able to test anything since I do not have that particular SGU file. I did test some random songs with different styles and I can sense that the 1st beat is lower than the rest of the counts on everything I tested. I actually have known this for a while now but never brought it up since is was not important to me.

That said, I do not know why this occurs.

I've noticed it myself and always assumed it was buffers loading at the very beginning.

Try this and see if you hear the same thing.

1. Start a New File
2. Change the style to Blank.Sty Blank 4/4 Even 8th.

You should have a song with no chords and only a standard drum kit.

If you generate the song, you might be able to subtly hear the difference in each lead in drum count.

Since I am using the standard 1-3-1-2-3-4 count in, I hear the 1st count having some reverb and it sounds like it is in the background. The 3rd count sounds OK. The next sequence of 1-2-3-4, I hear 1 and 3 very slightly lower then counts 2 and 4.

It is not my ears as the waveforms from 2 different programs recorded the hits and the levels are different.

One is from Total Recorder and the other is from Adobe Audition.

It's not a big problem at all but it is there.

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This has been going on for years. I posted about it here..

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=643809

It still happens. Starting the song a second time usually fixes it, but it would be nice to get a proper solution.

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I tried both re-starting it and re-generating it several times and I could not get it to change. Oh well.


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