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I haven't used any of RealBand's PG effects for quite a while, but when I tried to do so recently, the effects are there (PG Dynamics, Peak Limit, reverb etc) but there are no presets available.
How can I reload the presets or are they not available in RB2025?
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Mike,

I have RB 2026 and the presets are present.

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I loaded the effect by clicking on the FX icon to the left of the S icon.

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I just went through the PG effects and found the following:

PG AutoWah displayed no presets.
PG Click and Pop Remover displayed no presets.
PG Distortion displayed no presets.
PG Dynamics displayed 15 presets.
PG Echo Chorus displayed 17 presets.
PG Five Band EQ displayed 16 presets.
PG Flanger displayed 12 presets.
PG Guitar Amp display no presets.
PG PeakLimit displayed 4 presets.
PG Reverb displayed 37 presets.
PG RingMod displayed no presets.
PG RTA displayed no presets.
PG Ten Band EQ displayed 14 presets.
PG Tremelo displayed no presets.
PG Vinyl Tool displayed no presets.


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OPs image shows Echo/Chorus
I show presets for that also.

Does your Realband - DX Settings folder contain a Factory_TSG folder?
Do you have items in there?
I *assume* that is where they reside, but could be wrong...

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On my computer, I have 25 files in the Factory_TGG folder (101.tgs, 102.tgs, 201.tgs, 202.tgs, etc.) Interesting that they are .TGS files, but the folder name is TGG.


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same number here, but they appear compiled so who knows how many actual usable TGS FX each contains
I do know that when you save something as a preset it saves as a TGS file, so I assume the ones in the Factory folder are the base ones ...


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That's what I figured.


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Hi Rharv and John,
My Realband - DX Settings folder does not contain a Factory_TGS folder but does contain a Factory_TGG folder containing 25 tgs files - from 101TGS to 1201TGS. See attached.
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Hi Mike,

I have the Factory_TGG folder too.

The 64-bit PG Plugins are stored in "c:\Program Files\Powertracks DirectX Plugins". There is also a "Save-Restore Presets" folder that contains a txt file about restoring presets at this location. I have never come across this before so I'm presently working my way through it to try and understand what it is about.

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UPDATE: I've had a look through the txt file for Save-Restore but I am not confident that I fully understand it and the implications of running the EXE files. According to the documentation, the preset information is stored in the registry. This sounds like it's part of the group of files that PG Music installs during the minimum install to the hard drive when the 'writing to registry' process occurs. If this is the case, running the BIAB/RB installation file and choosing the minimum install will probably restore the presets.

Rharv has much more expertise than I do in this area. He might have some thoughts.

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Thanks for your investigation Noel.
I, too, have not got confidence to start running EXE files etc that may affect the program.
I'll wait and see if Rharv, PG staff or anyone else has any suggestions.
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Originally Posted by mkg50 (Mike G)
Thanks for your investigation Noel.
I, too, have not got confidence to start running EXE files etc that may affect the program.
I'll wait and see if Rharv, PG staff or anyone else has any suggestions.
Cheers,
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Yeah, I am hesitant about that myself.
Have you tried a quick re-install?

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Mike,

If you go for the reinstall option, you will need to update BIAB and RB to their latest builds again after the reinstall.

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I think RHarv's comment meant to say Factory_TGG, and that Factory_TSG was a typo.


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Thanks rharv.
How do I do a quick install for RealBand 2025?
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I'd go to the support page, download the latest update for 2025, and install it.
Pay attention to where things install and let it install the PGPlugins again if given the option.
https://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm
If that doesn't reinstall them try (re)installing BiaB latest update for that year
https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm

One of them re-installs them if you let it.

// according to a post above, the readme says we can share our compiled binary file that contains all of those TGS files, and I would do that, but it may overwrite some presets I have changed and/or add some I have. So I don't recommend that route unless you and a friend have been sharing it for reasons, which I can definitely see the benefit of doing. Sending my TGS files to to another location could be very handy when working on a mix, as long as both systems have the same FX available, etc.
But not in this situation

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Thanks Rharv,
I downloaded and installed the latest updates for RB2025 and BIAB2025 but still no presets are available.
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Wow, that's a weird one.
I know it has been raised as a flag for the team here, we'll have to wait and see how it flies.

Or because we're all friends here, I'll mention there is a readme in the Program Files\PowerTracks DirectX Plugins\Save-Restore Presets\ folder as Neil mentioned, an explanation of how to easily restore your Presets (from 2002)

I ran thru all the steps and it did create the file, it did restore it and I still have all my presets in RB 2026..
So I already did step one (thru 4) in the readme, and you already did step 2 (you have RB installed)
Step 3 is copying a file to your computer, which begs the question
Do you already have these files mentioned in the doc, in the specified location?
Neil posted a pic, you should have 4 files in that folder, one being a README file

You may be able to restore them yourself, or I could post my copy of the BIN file so you could use that, if not ..

Not recommending, but I went ahead and tried it after learning a little more about it and who wrote it.
/Due to my computer set up I had to run as Administrator (it does, after all say that it writes to the registry)
//You may or may not need that step depending on your settings
//yeah, I tried it, it didn't blow my machine up ... but I wasn't missing them before either ... and come to think of it, if the installer wasn't run as admin it may not have wrote to registry either


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Hi,
A few questions, if you don't mind:
Is there a difference between downloading/installing the latest updates for RB2025 and BIAB2025 and doing "a quick re-install"?
When you say a "quick reinstall", is that the same as a "minimal install" from PG Music's website?
Does the minimal install take much time and disc space?
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Sorry about all the questions. I'm just a bit nervous about "breaking" Realband


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Hi Mike.

The minimum install usually works for me when I need to use this approach. This is the installation that uses the least amount of diskspace. It only loads the barest minimum number of files onto the computer that Windows needs to get the program running. The process includes writing to the registry, adding drivers and adding any needed folders to the c:\program files folder.

After running the minimum install, there would only be a minimum change in your used diskspace because the installation will overwrite existing files.

Also, after running the minimum install, you would probably need to reload the most recent update for your version of BIAB/RB.

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