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Hi there, I've been wrestling with the Bar settings Instrument Changes At This Bar function. I followed instructions, select the bar, set the instrument(s) to Mute, and then set the instrument(s) back to normal where I'd like it to come back in. This works just fine in Band In A Box however when I open the file in RealBand the bar settings are gone, ALL the instruments play throughout the whole song. I tried reseting ALL the bar settings and re-entered them, again play fine in BnB, however the tracks I muted still play thru the whole song, am I missing something, is this a RB bug, it doesn't recognize the mute and unmute events?
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Realband does not recognize all the feature capabilities of Band-in-a-Box. The F5 bar settings set in Band-in-a-Box are not recognized in Realband. PG Music does not recognize this as a bug but more a reason to do as much work as you can in Band-in-a-Box. I should add, Realband has some capabilities that Band-in-a-Box doesn't have.
Also, if you use the DAW plugin you'll discover the Band-in-a-Box features that aren't recognized in Realband are not recognized in the DAW plugin.
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It's not a bug.
In RB it is just different.
Some people think it should make them stay in BiaB, but my preference is to let BiaB do what it's good at and get out to RB as soon as I can
(before any editing level, just get the style and chords done)
There are multiple ways to 'mute' a track in RB:
Just cut the section (you can always regenerate it later again if wanted).
Or click the little down arrow on a track; you will then see the Volume Automation - drag the line down to lower volume where you want, and raise it back up wherever you want.
Or use a plugin to lower the volume .. or cut/paste a section to a different track so you still have it, then mute that track for now
Or open the Mixer and use 'Record Mixer Moves' so you can adjust the volumes as it plays and record those actions in the mixer.
//among other ways off the top of my head
Just different ways of doing things than 'Bar Settings'
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Frank,
I am sorry that I can't be helpful, but can I please ask 2 questions, as it relates to one of my prominent requests for BIAB?
As you might know, BIAB has approximately ~16 available tracks. (total count is 24, but lets say ~8 are reserved for your RTs Rd, MIDI)
Question 1: If BIAB had a normal / standardized way to record audio, would 16 available tracks suffice your needs to record your instruments, vocals?
Question 2: Lets say you answered yes to question 1, would you need another piece of software (a Daw) to record your music? And if yes, why?
Thank you!
P.S. I see that in your profile you have BIAB 2025 listed... Not sure if you upgraded to 2026 or not. If you didn't you might be in for a pleasant surprise, as UI significantly improved.
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One of the main arguments I hear around here for using RB is because it has BIAB features built right in that no other DAW has. And then, when you try to use it, you find out really quick that some of the work you already did in BIAB just gets ignored by RB. Call it whatever you want. I'd call that a bug.
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It's a matter of learning WHEN to switch to RB from BiaB
Once you've tried mixing (or some of the other stuff RB does better) inside BiaB, then yes you can lose some stuff.
Those that have success with RB also say get out of BiaB as soon as you can.
It would be kind of anti-productive to make two softwares that do everything the same, wouldn't it?
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It's a matter of learning WHEN to switch to RB from BiaB In my mind, most people (not all) who use BIAB would need 4-12 tracks of accepted normal (*standard) way to record their instrument and / or vocals to complete their projects. If that is done right in BIAB, than perhaps it shouldn't be a question of WHEN, but a question of WHY.
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doesn't anybody read the PG tips and tricks forum the band in the box forum
Or the real band forum....jeesh.
To the op...
In the real band forum I posted a thread when real band might be a better solution than band in a box and differences and how I use both products...
Simply real band does some things better than band in the Box EG audio and midi editing.
Please note some people have done nearly a hundred songs in real band.
Various songs in my signature SoundCloud were done including real band...
Om
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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It would be kind of anti-productive to make two softwares that do everything the same, wouldn't it? What is "anti-productive" is claiming RB can open the BIAB files and then silently dropping various settings when RB opens the files! At a bare minimum, RB should warn the user of what work will be lost when opening BIAB files! Is there even anything in the documentation that explicitly lists what all is ignored by RB when opening BIAB files? If not there sure should be! When software behaves like this it does not inspire confidence and causes users like me to abandon it for other solutions. get out of BiaB as soon as you can. I certainly agree with you on this point! Butt I must say, with the 2026 version I am enjoying my time in BIAB a LOT more! They really improved the UX. More left to do but a GREAT improvement!
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Frank might be scared to post now  Frank, please ignore this little chat among us. It's just some of us believe that RB is next best thing and others that it should become a legacy item and limited resources should be re-directed to bring BIAB and Plugin to where they should be. From my observation, while there are a handful of VERY vocal RB supporters, most people use BIAB / Plugin and (non-RB)DAW combination. My take, if audio recording is properly set up, even on limited (by count) BIAB tracks, a lot of people (not all) wouldn't need RB or a DAW for that matter as it will fully satisfy their needs. If you find the time, kindly answer 2 of my questions from above. Thank you.
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