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But at $4 a month for a year and can cancel anytime that is not so bad.

I only see two options, $14.90 month and $24,90?

That option is for folks with the essential lifetime license. Look at the FAQ near the bottom of the page.
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Originally Posted by Brian Hughes
That option is for folks with the essential lifetime license. Look at the FAQ near the bottom of the page.
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Ah Ok. Thanks.

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$1 for 1 month is up right about now for many of us. I was able to cancel it very easily on my account page which is avialable thru the app. I may look into the second option which is $45 for 1 year. But I may not. It froze Reaper a time or two and I was not feeling the love.


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It's BIAB all the way!

I will rephrase what I saw was going on here when I joined PGM world. There are people who beg for change and a significantly smaller, but very vocal group who dig their toes and try to "prevent" or "obstruct" any type of progress. No finger pointing, just observation. Most of BIAB inherited issues that we experience now, in my opinion are result of "kindness" by PGM of trying to appeal to both camps. It seems that finally some good effort was made to stabilize and rework some of the obscure workflow implementations. Some. If they want to stay on top of their game or at least remain in the game in foreseeable future, they need to aggressively rework a lot of abnormalities and fix items that are long due to be fixed. Giving extreme attention to consistency and workflow. A workflow that doesn't require user to dig deep into thick manual, or use 250 workarounds that some push as "solutions". If five years ago BIAB was one step ahead of "competitors", now that distance had shortened. On the bright side, because of how much logic and content packed into BIAB, it could take many unwalked paths.


The new UI incorporated many of the ideas discussed in the PGM pinned topics in wishlist. It still needs a lot of work, but came out much (!) better than expected. I hope a new set of pinned and curated topics will be rolled out in 2026. The sooner, the better. I also hope that everyone who cares about BIAB and knows its deeper corners will join the discussion so we can all help elevate it to the place it deserves.

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As far as Tonalic goes, personally I have no desire to touch anything subscription, but I fully agree with jpettit: "Is competition good? Yes, It could be the strongest driver for innovation in BIAB" +1

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I agree with everything that Misha just posted.


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I am using the existing license for Tonalic I received with the upgrade to Fender Studio Pro 8. I tried it in one of my instrumentals and it was ok. Pick a strumming pattern and it drops in nicely with a very basic pattern. This license is very limited and the subscription model is very expensive. But it does not compare to a real track. I love that I can take a basic style and switch out realtracks play with tempos and keys and by the time I have finished I have a created a piece of music that does not have an identifiable genre. It takes a special piece of software to be able to do that. I know AI can create some wild and well crafted music and videos but I prefer taking basic tones and creating something unique from them. I believe BIAB is a complete tool. Allows innovation, unbelievable quality has strong support and wants to keep up with the new technology without sacrificing the items I just mentioned.


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