That's a great question Andrew. It's sort of funny and goes back to around 1979.
I was taking a song writing class in Encinitas (North San Diego). I was in the composers class (taught by the late drummer and producer Sid Bulkin). Kathy was in the lyricists class. Same location but we never met. But the instructor told me anout her so one day we met in La Jolla Shores (beach nearby). Just to talk. Well within several months she sent me a whole bunch of her photocopied hand-written lyrics via slow mail. The rest is history. In the next few years, I wrote about 20 songs. But I've only met her face to face a handful of times. However, she knows about this Forum and I will send her a link.