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Anyone have any experience with this method or have thoughts about it?



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Looks like marketing bolony to me! But otherwise, what ever keeps the kids learning is not a bad thing.


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Not sure, can't access it from Australia:

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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Not sure, can't access it from Australia:
I could be wrong, but don't you have Google down under?


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Originally Posted by Bass Thumper
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Not sure, can't access it from Australia:
I could be wrong, but don't you have Google down under?
Sure, we have Google, but the link you attached was to YouTube. I was responding to the status of the YouTube link in your post.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Sure, we have Google, but the link you attached was to YouTube. I was responding to the status of the YouTube link in your post.
I understand and am seeking opinions on the Payam Method. My search engine delivered many hits.
And maybe we should remove WWW from our lexicon and replace with PWWW?
Partial World Wide Web laugh


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Audio Track makes two points that should be considered a) if links are provided they ought to be tested and where they are reported as being regionally sensitive that ought to be accepted at face value and b) one ought not expect a reader to use a search engine, (I for one don't use Goggle nor use the company name as a verb), to supply information missing for the O.P. As to the method? It's just another coding system, ( yes I did look it up using Duck Duck Go), not unlike tabs.


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There really isn't anything new here. When I was teaching guitar I'd tell the students after you learn the basic techniques I will divided the lesson in half, half for continuing out of the book and half for having fun. If ignoring the book learning then the fun stuff will stop. My lessons were not a strictly go from book 1 to book 2 etc. Students learned more advanced techniques more easily when playing songs that they want to play. Learning fun stuff started early in the lessons to get the student motivated. Note that all of the fun stuff was in notation that was modified to the students skill level.

I have had great success with this method and so did the other guitar teacher I was sharing students when we both worked at a music store together. YMMV


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Originally Posted by rayc
Audio Track makes two points that should be considered a) if links are provided they ought to be tested and where they are reported as being regionally sensitive that ought to be accepted at face value and b) one ought not expect a reader to use a search engine, (I for one don't use Goggle nor use the company name as a verb), to supply information missing for the O.P. As to the method? It's just another coding system, ( yes I did look it up using Duck Duck Go), not unlike tabs.
Ray, the search engine you choose to use, or whether you use one at all, is entirely your own business.

As for expecting me to ‘test’ links for compatibility with every country’s infrastructure, policies, protocols, restrictions, and regional quirks and oddities across the globe, I have exactly three words for that: ain’t gonna happen.

I do agree that it is prudent to accept at face value any link that is “regionally sensitive” and I do sympathize with any PWWW restrictions you or others may face. Said restrictions are beyond my control.


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Quite possibly.


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Excellent critique; I didn't make it that far in 60 Minutes video.

Plus, she says "detridus", so now I finally know how to pronounce it. smile

Those shots of the students with terrible technique (curled or splayed fingers, lowered wrists) with their teenage "teachers" watching without comment had me cringing. I'm a mediocre piano player, but I'd never let my students hold their hands like that. They're going to injure themselves if they keep that up.

There are plenty of systems that teach "temporary" notation, but in the end, it ultimately need to be discarded because learning common notation is the end goal. Training wheels can only take you so far.

That he chooses to call Am chord an "A chord" is a huge red flag.

Having Hans Zimmer behind the project doesn't mean much, because he's an investor.

It's not surprising people are choosing to leave 60 Minutes, because this really was just a non-critical advertisement for a franchise.

See also this Reddit thread.



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Originally Posted by dcuny
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Those shots of the students with terrible technique (curled or splayed fingers, lowered wrists)
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That he chooses to call Am chord an "A chord" is a huge red flag.

As a longtime guitar teacher I have had a lot of experience getting students whom were taught with terrible technique. I can also tell you that correcting most of those students' techniques took a lot longer and a lot more expensive that if the student went to a good teacher first. I say more expensive because one is paying to start over, hence paying again for what should have been taught the first time.

Calling A-C-E an A chord not only is a terrible mistake it also shows that he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about.

PS - I do know that if I wanted to learn on my wife's piano and I wrote 1-3-5 on the keys I would be singing soprano the next day!


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