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Just a bit confused as to why C4 as labelled in the Piano Roll actually shows as C3 (concert pitch) on the app on my mobile phone and on a virtual online keyboard? It seems that BIAB labels concert pitch C3 as C4 in the Piano Roll - likewise D3 as D4. Almost like it's following guitar notation?

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depending on your specific DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) or synthesizer, this exact note number might be labeled as either C4 (the standard Scientific Pitch Notation) or C3 (a common offset convention used by companies like Yamaha).

does that help?

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Sorry, I've given the wrong information. It's actually the Big Piano where the issue is. When I play C4 in BIAB Big Piano the note indication (label) above says I'm playing C4, but the sound coming out is actually C3 concert pitch. So, BIAB is saying it's playing C4 when it's actually playing C3.

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While C4 is the generally accepted international standard for middle C, it varies between instrument makers. For example, for middle C: Roland uses C4, Yamaha uses C3, Fruity Loops uses C5 (if I recall correctly). The standalone version of BIAB also denotes middle C as C5 in both notation and Piano Roll. Are you saying that depending on how your view BIAB on the PG Music app, that middle C is denoted differently?


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Originally Posted by StevieB
Sorry, I've given the wrong information. It's actually the Big Piano where the issue is. When I play C4 in BIAB Big Piano the note indication (label) above says I'm playing C4, but the sound coming out is actually C3 concert pitch. So, BIAB is saying it's playing C4 when it's actually playing C3.

Hi StevieB, look for the note number. Those whom standardized MIDI called MIDI note 60 as middle C, and every other note also has a designated MIDI note number. What they didn't standardize was what to call MIDI note 60, thus the confusion as depending on the software or hardware it can be called C3. C4, or C5.

So if your MIDI note is 60 it is just a nomenclature problem. If not then you have a transposing problem so let us know the MIDI note number you are getting.


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I guess I arrived at this questions when trying to see what range, and key would best suit a session singer. For example, if they say their peak note is E4, then what actually does that mean in relation to the notes I can play on the Big Piano window? I understood E4 means E4 concert pitch, and that is universal. But apparently, E4 concert pitch is called E5 in BIAB?

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What? I am finding the same thing here? Not sure I ever noticed this before in BIAB, but my middle C (aka C4) on my SL88 keyboard is named C5 in BIAB. I didn't expect to see this. Mario, I can't see where to verify the Note Number (60) in BIAB?

Maybe I need to get my coffee....


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