Well, all of this discussion is about a chord whose specification is still unclear. Where is kaeote? Please spell it out for us.

Just to get my two cents in on dominant chord naming, the 9th includes the 7th, the 11th includes the 7th and 9th, and the 13th includes the 7th, 9th, and 11th. Various was to describe excluding notes exist like Bb13X11 is Bb13 with no 11. Or Bb7/13 or Bb7 add 13 is, well, you get it.


kelso

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