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Mine is 83 GB. Is that what everyone else has? (I have not erased +- files).
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Mine is 83 GB. Is that what everyone else has? (I have not erased +- files).
20.8 GB, 15,505 files 510 folders (I have erased +- files) - Does that sound right?? I hould have everything. - but the 15K number of files does seem hugh.
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Sam It depends on how many realtracks you have. The more realtracks, the larger the folder. That does sound close for avg size. I had over 100 gig, but I *think* I had all of them. Now it's like 30 gig or so.. 
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I just rcvd the 2011 EverythingPAK on HD. It allegedly has all the Real Tracks. The G:\bb\RealTracks folder has:
30.2 GB
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I just rcvd the 2011 EverythingPAK on HD. It allegedly has all the Real Tracks. The G:\bb\RealTracks folder has:
30.2 GB
23,748 files
824 folders
Well we both just installed the same thing, but my numbers are a lot smaller than yours 
So I went back to the BIAB external HD and sure enough, I see 30.2 GB, 23,748 files and 824 folders. But this is not what apparently installed to my DAW internal drive. Sounds like I need to do a reinstall??
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FYI, I'm running everything off the USB drive. Didn't install to my internal drive.
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FYI, I'm running everything off the USB drive. Didn't install to my internal drive.
Thanks for clarifying, that may help explain things.
I have now deleted everything and reinitiated a complete fresh reinstall.
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Mine is 83 GB. Is that what everyone else has? (I have not erased +- files).
20.8 GB, 15,505 files 510 folders (I have erased +- files) - Does that sound right?? I hould have everything. - but the 15K number of files does seem hugh.
Did a complete uninstall\deleted of all prior BIAB 2010 - beginning of time files and reinstalled 2011 from the external HD of the UltraPak. Number of files and size remained identical.
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Dan,
Did you choose the option to install your Realtracks to the internal hard drive? My Realtracks folder is 30.2 GB on my internal drive. Is it possible that some Realtracks have ended up in another folder?
You can also have a look at the option "What Add-ons Do I Have" found under Opt. This will list all the Realtracks that are installed. If that doesn't help, the best solution would then be to use Live Help and ask PG Music.
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I don't think you're missing anything. If you already had some Real Track files then you may have a couple of older files on your computer.
Another thing, it's been proven that you will process faster on your hard drive than the USB drive. Specially if you've installed just BIAB to your hard drive and left the RI's on the external USB drive. How big is your hard drive? How much space do you have on drive C:\? Is your hard drive divided into more than one big drive?
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It depends on how many realtracks you have. The more realtracks, the larger the folder.
That does sound close for avg size.
I had over 100 gig, but I *think* I had all of them.
Now it's like 30 gig or so..
I just installed BIAB 2011 which means I have ALL of them. The RT folder is 83GB. I installed BIAB in the same folder as the previous version, without erasing anything, as was instructed by Alyssa at tech support.
Shouldn't everyone who installs 2011 have exactly the same size RT folder?
I don't want to erase +- files if that will slow things down.
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Mine is 83 GB. Is that what everyone else has? (I have not erased +- files).
20.8 GB, 15,505 files 510 folders (I have erased +- files) - Does that sound right?? I hould have everything. - but the 15K number of files does seem hugh.
Did a complete uninstall\deleted of all prior BIAB 2010 - beginning of time files and reinstalled 2011 from the external HD of the UltraPak. Number of files and size remained identical.
I was told by tech support to install 2011 over the 2010 version, not to uninstall or erase anything first. Was I not given the correct info? Why is your RT folder 20GB and mine 83GB? Did you erase the +- files?
83GB, 62,784 Files, 824 Folders
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Hi Sam,
You've done the right thing. It sounds to me as if you have a mixture of older and new Realtracks.
Have a look at Opt >> Preferences >> Realtracks and make sure that the "Use +/- Realtracks for Generation" is not active (i.e. not checked). Now, run BIAB for a few days and see how it performs. (Having the "+/-" option unchecked means that BIAB is not using the +/- files.) If you are happy with the speed after a couple of days, then you can use the Opt >> Preferences >> Realtracks button "Erase un-needed +/- files". This will reduce the size of your Realtrack folder.
Regards,
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P.S. You can also have a look at the option "What Add-ons Do I Have" found under Opt. This will list all the Realtracks that are installed.
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You've done the right thing. It sounds to me as if you have a mixture of older and new Realtracks.
Have a look at Opt >> Preferences >> Realtracks and make sure that the "Use +/- Realtracks for Generation" is not active (i.e. not checked). Now, run BIAB for a few days and see how it performs. (Having the "+/-" option unchecked means that BIAB is not using the +/- files.) If you are happy with the speed after a couple of days, then you can use the Opt >> Preferences >> Realtracks button "Erase un-needed +/- files". This will reduce the size of your Realtrack folder.
Regards,
Noel
P.S. You can also have a look at the option "What Add-ons Do I Have" found under Opt. This will list all the Realtracks that are installed.
Noel, all the Realtracks are installed, but I don't see anyone here with 83GB RT folder. I'm wondering if they've been duplicated somehow. The +- issue is another issue altogether. I've heard that erasing +- files will slow down generation, and I'm not sure I want to do that.
Can anyone from PG music verify that 83GB is correct size of RT folder? (I'll call them).
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That 83gb is about what I had before I erased the +/- files. Now at about 31gb with all of them (UltraPlus Pak). There was an earlier post about the Holds/Shots files, and that seems to be a different size for some folks as well. Maybe such things as formating of the hard drives and file system specs could account for some size differences. And with the old way, you could expand all of the RT's, some of them, etc. so I wouldn't worry so much about file size - as was suggested here look at the What Options Do I Have menu and see if any are listed as not installed.
I ran a couple of test on my system regarding generation time before I erased the +/- files. Basically generation took about 30% longer with them deleted, but for my songs the longest was about 10 seconds so I can live with that and reclaim a bunch of hard drive space. If space isn't an issue I don't see any reason to delete them unless you just want to.
Good luck.
One other thought - if you don't erase the +/- files, you might want to check the box to instruct BIAB to use them, otherwise it won't even though they are still there on your system.
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2010.5 Everything Pak:
My RealTracks folder has a size of 92.2 GB; it contains 70432 files and 676 folders.
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Note that each of us has various realtrack updates installed, various upgrade packages, various test realtracks (for those in beta) and other things that may affect the reported size. 'When' you updated each version could even matter a little. Many things will affect this size a bit.
The sizes mentioned here don't seem out of line to me, considering possible variances.
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My RealTracks folder has a size of 92.2 GB; it contains 70432 files and 676 folders.
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Good! Larger than mine!
I was just concerned that there were duplicate files resulting in too large a folder.
I don't think I'll keep using +- files if erasing them (or not using them) results in slower generation.
Has anyone else tested difference in using and disabling +- and time difference in generating RT?
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Wasn't there an older option, maybe still is, for having pre-expanded realtracks. In other words, realtracks were uncompressed and left on your drive. Then it was slightly quicker for BIAB to load them. My understanding is that now the program is more efficient, and our PCs more powerful.
Point is, you may have older expanded .wav versions of some of your realtracks on your drive.
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Wasn't there an older option, maybe still is, for having pre-expanded realtracks. In other words, realtracks were uncompressed and left on your drive. Then it was slightly quicker for BIAB to load them. My understanding is that now the program is more efficient, and our PCs more powerful.
Point is, you may have older expanded .wav versions of some of your realtracks on your drive.
No, I believe 83GB is the correct size of the 2011 realtracks folder if +- files have not been erased. If erased, it should be about 30GB. Does everyone agree?
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