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Now after discovering my original songs are on biab 2010.Ive now got real bad latency problems just playing real tracks.This is so frustrating as I never really had any problems like this on 2010.Frankie
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Do you really mean latency? That is, you press a key and the action has a delay.
Or do you mean things are taking a long time?
You could use your signature line to post your computer type, cpu/speed/sound device(s), ram etc. it might then give a good clue.....I feel like Hercule Poirot, I mean um ...Holmes....'tis elementary..
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Do you really mean latency? That is, you press a key and the action has a delay.
Or do you mean things are taking a long time?
You could use your signature line to post your computer type, cpu/speed/sound device(s), ram etc. it might then give a good clue.....I feel like Hercule Poirot, I mean um ...Holmes....'tis elementary..
What happens is part way through the track it starts to break up quite badly(I assumed that was a latency problem).I try to click stop and it takes at least a couple of mins to stop.You are right John I should put up a signature line as soon as I know how to do it.Cheers Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
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yamaha rev 500 effects
tacam DP-24 DAW
Samson Resolv NF monitors
Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard
Fender semi accoustic guitar
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Hi Frankie,
How do you have BIAB installed? Is it installed to run from your internal hard drive or you the USB drive?
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hi Noel direct from my usb Frankie
I have a AMD Athlon xp1800 processor 1.5ghz 1.5gb ram.It could be the computer is struggling playing the tracks but was ok on biab 2010
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
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tacam DP-24 DAW
Samson Resolv NF monitors
Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard
Fender semi accoustic guitar
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Yes, it sounds like your computer is struggling. Uncheck the fast generation of RealTracks, and do not erase the +/- files.
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I suggested in another thread; make sure you are letting the program use the +/- files
Your system is borderline for the task at hand. The new realtracks can be smaller, but require more computing power.
See if there is anything else you can turn off to free up resources (antivrus, camera sensing software, etc)
Quickest fix would likely be more RAM, but even then the processor speed is questionable for the new engine.
I can run the new engine on an Athlon 2.13gHz with 2 gig RAM, but that system is a music machine (nothing else on it)
I wouldn't expect a machine with internet, antivirus, office and other stuff to work well at those specs. I believe your system needs to use the old style of generating realtracks to work smoothly, like Matt suggested. Or be set up very efficiently.
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I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Everyone is saying don't delete the +/- files BUT the NEW RTs don't have +/- files so to me there's no point in not erasing as the issue will arise if you do use any NEW ones. The answer that I use is uncheck"fast generation". If you use BIAB live you're SOL though cause it takes to long between songs unless you freeze them.
If you are playing live it might be best to buy a new computer.
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John
The reason we hope he didn't alreay delete the +/- files is because he has frozen songs with those tracks referred to in the saved file.
Scenario-
You 'froze' a track. It uses some of the +/- files in earlier version.
If you erase that referenced section, what will happen?
Regenerate is the best scenario to me, and then you lose what you froze.
Will it regenerate the same? dunno here.
Unchecking fast generation may solve his performance problem, but will the tracks still be the same?
I figgered getting the program to act like an earlier version would be the better.
Maybe the data in the magical part of the program that assembles realtracks would work as it did before, and find the +/- files it was looking for when needed.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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The whole frozen unfrozen files will be an issue on a one time basis I would guess, unless the engine changes or the technology behind it. It seems like a catch 22 for those with slower systems though. It appears the hobby and the old computer are going to cause many of the mates here to hope Santa baby buys them a nice new shiny fast memory laden pc.
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I did mention that all of my songs were on the HD 2010 and was told to cut&paste them into 2011 Im still working on how to do that.I know my computer should be upgraded and if I could get some advice on what I need looking at what Ive got then that would be appreciated.Thanks Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
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tacam DP-24 DAW
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just did a couple of takes with the real tracks and after unchecking the fast regeneration it now plays ok so I hope this has done the trick..I really appreciate all the "free" help Ive got from you guys.Cheers Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
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1 87 gb ram
windows 7 Ultimate
yamaha rev 500 effects
tacam DP-24 DAW
Samson Resolv NF monitors
Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard
Fender semi accoustic guitar
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Bob,
You are correct. He'll have to unfreeze them, regenerate and refreeze.
John has the best idea as I mentioned.Ya need a new machine.
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You are correct. He'll have to unfreeze them, regenerate and refreeze.
John has the best idea as I mentioned.Ya need a new machine.
Not really!.Just upgrading should do the trick.. also as suggested getting rid of certain things in the background which puts a drain on the cpu Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
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Fender semi accoustic guitar
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Upgrade the computer? Maybe maybe not. Things are not so standardizes as they used to be and it may not be upgradeable.The slow processor is the issue.
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Here are several things to think about, your system will most likely only see at the very most 2 gigs of ram, mine is old like yours, and 2 gigs is the limit. 2 gigs in an older slower machine might not make enough difference. My system does a serviceable job, but it never touches the inter net, has absolutely no AV or fire wall stuff, and is optimized to record.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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Here are several things to think about, your system will most likely only see at the very most 2 gigs of ram, mine is old like yours, and 2 gigs is the limit. 2 gigs in an older slower machine might not make enough difference. My system does a serviceable job, but it never touches the inter net, has absolutely no AV or fire wall stuff, and is optimized to record.
Hi Rob and John,My son who is Microsoft certified will have(and never has had)no problem in upgrading my PC(it was his at one time).Its working perfectly now since unchecking the regeneration of RT,s.I do have zone alarm/avg etc and just didnt get any problems on biab 2010.But I will agree that if its cheaper for my son to do a rebuild for better performance then thats the way I will go.Thanks Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core
processor 2.51 ghz
1 87 gb ram
windows 7 Ultimate
yamaha rev 500 effects
tacam DP-24 DAW
Samson Resolv NF monitors
Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard
Fender semi accoustic guitar
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Here are several things to think about, your system will most likely only see at the very most 2 gigs of ram, mine is old like yours, and 2 gigs is the limit. 2 gigs in an older slower machine might not make enough difference. My system does a serviceable job, but it never touches the inter net, has absolutely no AV or fire wall stuff, and is optimized to record.
Hi Rob and John,My son who is Microsoft certified will have(and never has had)no problem in upgrading my PC(it was his at one time).Its working perfectly now since unchecking the regeneration of RT,s.I do have zone alarm/avg etc and just didnt get any problems on biab 2010.But I will agree that if its cheaper for my son to do a rebuild for better performance then thats the way I will go.Thanks Frankie
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I should have a son who could do stuff for me. One is an anthropologist, with a degree in English too, and at the moment has 4 jobs and mostly marks papers for professors. One is a supervisor of a French speaking call centre and a whiz on mobile phones, then there's the proverbial black sheep who plays the bagpipes and gets a new job every 6 months which I don't get. He can bulk buy you anything, but I have no need for 400 cell phone towers or 800 copies of AutoCad. Two of my sons went and brought home a christmas tree for me, I didn't want to try to stuff 7 feet of evergreen in my Mini Cooper.
I really think stuffing more memory in that computer would be cheap, and you might find it would last another year.
Tell him the 'experts' all agree, a guy like you needs a quad core music computer to make you very happy. My Dad is 83 and he thinks I'm a computer genius because I can make pictures he gets in emails appear large enough to view.
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He has enough memory. 2 G is all he could use anyway.
It's the processor in this case that needs more.
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