Thanks John- I'm talking about applying the effects, and your words are duly noted/

Under EDIT-Audio Effects, there are many "default" ones that show up. but it seems like all the others accessed thru the Direct X portion of that menu (including PG's) do work. I don't know what those default
effects are- are they Microsoft?

I assumed they were PG, cause they came up as default, but now I'm second guessing that.
Under edit, audio effects, they read Compressor Gate Distortion, etc.

Thanks-
Dan