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Basing a business model on "fixes" isn't good in the long run, and I don't certainly don't think that's how PG Music does things.
People make purchasing decisions based on what a product can do for them, not on it being less terrible than the prior release. If BiaB were feature complete and bug-free, there are many things that could be added that would make a yearly update attractive. RealTracks, MIDI styles, new time signatures - these are all compelling reasons for upgrading.
One thing that is abundantly clear in the various responses here is that all of us tend to buy whatever software solves the specific problem we want to address. Each software has many features common to the competitors, but that's never why we buy it... we buy for the UNIQUE features.
When you look at the wish list, MOST of the requests involve asking for features that will make BIAB/RB more like other programs. However, when you look at what PGMusic has done as opposed to what people have asked for.. they have consistently introduced features that enhance their core uniqueness first. I think that's just good marketing. Why reinvent the wheel? If there's already a product that does XYZ, why would anyone spend new money to buy another product that does the same thing but in a different way? And why would developers spend development time and money to "catch up?" ... it only makes sense to "stay ahead" in the areas where they are already leading the pack.
As stated in another thread, if I had to choose today between everything I asked for on the wish list last year and what PGMusic delivered, I'd take version 2011 in a heartbeat. Why? Because what they served up was a mega leap in improving the usefulness of everything that is unique to their products. The whole time I was asking them to be more like Sonar, They were working on improving everything that will never be available in Sonar or anywhere else but in PGMusic products..
FWIW, I upgraded RB but not Sonar this year.
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John (S), Mac this is my point, that it takes more than one program, and that those programs that try to be everything fall woefully short. Reaper tries to be the best DAW with routing architecture, Sonar tries to have it's center points, and the same is true of others. It is obvious that RB, and BiaB for that matter is aimed at the development of the RT/RD plan. This is part i imagine why the VSTi issue has been a back burner one. John (F) and David, don't get me wrong, read my last paragraph in the last thread, i am not suggesting PG bases their business on slowly fixing bugs to get us to buy again, but that fixing everything at once is impossible since each new feature adds an element of danger for new bugs. Software by nature is buggy, and difficult to develop as every system is different. If PG stopped releases and waited unitl every feature on the wish list was added, and every bug squashed, they would never release another version. For two reasons, 1. you can't complete de bug until the program runs on many different setups, and 2. you can never please everyone with the new feature list. Oh and #. some users can't setup to save their lives and have false bugs that tie up time! Also I don't think we should be too hard on folks that come here and "bash" as you say the product, as it is just a sign of frustration on their part in the inability to get the thing working. The also spent there money on it and are just venting. Certainly not the best approach, but one everyone has taken at one time or the other. Where I personally draw the line is where someone comes in "bashing" as a means to promote another product as the answer to others problems. The old "This product suck, and if you had DAW XYZ it would never do that, you should go to this link www.perfectDAW.com and download it" To me that is the wrong use of a companies user forum. David, what i meant by "What the heck would we buy" is that IF and that is a BIG IF PG actually killed all bugs, and added every thing on the wish list in one release there would be little to sell. Even though we are really paying for the RT development, I doubt people would pay as much for new RTs as quickly as new technology to run them. Sales would suffer a bit cause some might reason i can get by with the RTs i have, and wait a while. The new release with new features that make the RTs work better is the carrot that lures new sales. I bought because of the fact i did not buy in 2010.5, and there was 202 new RTS and a elastique engine to make them better. The only software i upgraded this year was BiaB on HD. So i am a true fan.
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Pat Marr, Kenny Danner here in Hickory, NC. You mentioned once about how it would be nice to have a North Carolina users group. Have you given any more thought to that idea? Please email me at kennydanner@hotmail.com if you would like to discuss getting together sometime. Thanks, Kenny
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Kenny Danner here in Hickory, NC. You mentioned once about how it would be nice to have a North Carolina users group. Have you given any more thought to that idea? Please email me at kennydanner@hotmail.com if you would like to discuss getting together sometime.
Thanks,
Kenny
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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