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"Why go through all that? RB can do the same. Sounds the same. The only reason would be some proprietary effects that I can see. "


Speed, ease of use, staying out of anger management classes due to software.



...the koolaid of BIAB must be tasty. It does what it does well. But if you are in a "pro" environment, where knocking stuff out in a hurry is what is required, then Real Band is not the "DAW" for you. Genius. There are better programs out there to edit clips that are not linear. Cut a segment, move it where you want. Real Band is not that. Change pitch/tempo in real time with no artifacts and no useless set of confusing choices, Real Band is not that. Take a loop and stretch it to more measures or shorten it quickly, Real Band is not that. Etc, etc, etc. Real Band is very linear. It produces good quality linear tracks with high levels of realism. However, it is a resource hog that requires more than an off the shelf 500 dollar computer to do the basics quickly. Not being able to stop playback because of CPU usage is a programming issue, hot a system/hardware one. That stop button ought to have top priority in the program. It doesn't. So, if it doesn't "stop" playback, but stutters to the end, and the only way to stop it is to kill the process, that is a programming issue, and a very annoying one. The "stop" button is actually the "click and pray it stops, or wait 5 minutes" button. So, if I am a "troll", you can't handle the truth. Real Tracks is the only unique feature, and it is saddled with a windows 95 interface that almost makes it not worth using.



Ok Bill, it's Christmas. I'll take your points in order.
One. what's with the comment about Biab kool aid? We're not talking Biab. The two programs are related but RB is not Biab.

Two. You're talking a lot about loops. True, RB is not going to compete with Acid but neither is Acid going to compete with the Real Tracks or adding brand new Biab midi parts, especially a soloist in any of several thousand styles.
This falls under the concept of using the proper tool for a given job.

Three. You speak about the time it takes to get something done. Let me talk about that a bit. I use Adobe Audition a lot. I used to think Power Tracks, now Real Band were really slow and clunky until I discovered that while the immediate workflow is much faster in Audition, the overall time to complete a project is about the same due to how both programs handle the temp project files. Audition keeps all the temp files until you go to save the project at the end and then goes through a very elaborate and time consuming "flushing temp files" thing. A complex project comprising say 17 tracks with a lot of cutting, pasting and waveform editing can take 10-15 minutes or more to do the whole flushing thing to finally save and close a project. Real Band does all that as it goes along so while the immediate workflow is much slower, there's none of the flushing at the end. You just save the project as normal and move on. I can't speak for other DAW's but that's my take on these two.

Four. This is the biggie. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say a $500 computer can't handle the program and it won't stop properly. Do you see anyone else complaining about this? Did you search the forum to make sure? The answer is no, nobody has that problem so what does that tell you? Instead of making these completely incorrect and inflammatory statements trashing the program (that's what a troll does)why not simply state your problem and ask for help? Everybody here including me is happy to sort it out for you.
You're new here so you don't know everybody. Rharv is one of our resident experts on this program, reread his answer to you. He has his own studio, does tons of recording using yes <gasp> Real Band and knows almost everything there is to know about all the editing functions and there's plenty of them. He is also a website designer and computer programmer. I know a lot of it too because I also use RB all the time. So does Silvertones. Is it the only program any of us uses? Of course not, different tools for different needs and all that.

It can most certainly be true that RB is not the best thing for you based on your personal needs and that's fair enough but to trash it like you did based on incomplete information and what appears to be a major configuration issue with your system is unfair. You're saying this: "The "stop" button is actually the "click and pray it stops, or wait 5 minutes" button".
This is definitely your problem not the program, something in your setup is causing this.

Bob

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