Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 593
S
shlind Online Content OP
Journeyman
OP Online Content
Journeyman
S
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 593
I just had a play around with the time mapping (ACW) and stem splitting in BIAB in order to be able to generate some RTs for a song.

It seems to work fine but it took me long to come to that conclusion and try to understand what is going on.

Dragging in an audio file into the audio track and then marking up the time map in ACW and analyzing the chords seems to work ok.

Now making a stem split on the audio track with the time map to generates the stems in sync with them main audio is where it starts to confuse me.
The stems are generated ok but..

In the track view when looking at the audio waves for the stems and comparing them with the audio wave for the master audio track the stems are all “visually out of sync” with the audio track. But the stem files themselves are in sync with the audio track it is only the “visual representation” that are out of sync.

It is easy to check that the actual stem files are in sync when listening to a stem individually and comparing it with the main audio file, and also exporting all the stems and main audio and check them in another software like a DAW that shows the visual audio wave files correctly, they are all in sync.

Since I am not normally using this I might have missed something or doing something wrong but otherwise I wonder if it can be set somewhere to show the waves correctly in sync or otherwise what is the purpose of showing the audio waves out of sync with the main audio.


BIAB 2026, Studio Pro 8, Song Master Pro, Win11 Home. i7-9700K CPU, 32GB, ESI MAYA44eX, ZOOM UAC-2, Guitar Pro 8, Transcribe, (EZKeys2, EZD3, SD3, EZBass, EZMix3)
Amateur: fiddle, guitar, vocal, beginner on bass.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,204
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,204
"showing the audio waves out of sync with the main audio."
Trying to guess here. Are you talking about when switching views, screen is not centered at the position that you were working in previous view?

Or the actual waveform "image" looks different from what you would expect it to be if you are on the correct location/position of the view you are saying it is visually out of sync?

One simple "trick" to check is to detach view (Ctrl+ click on view button) in question and see if cursor moves properly where it visually should on detached view.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 593
S
shlind Online Content OP
Journeyman
OP Online Content
Journeyman
S
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 593
It is the actual waveform image in the track view for the main audio track and all stems.
The stems images are all out of sync with the main audio track image.
But checking them in a daw they are all in sync. And they all play in sync in BIAB listening to them one by one and comparing them with the main audio track.


BIAB 2026, Studio Pro 8, Song Master Pro, Win11 Home. i7-9700K CPU, 32GB, ESI MAYA44eX, ZOOM UAC-2, Guitar Pro 8, Transcribe, (EZKeys2, EZD3, SD3, EZBass, EZMix3)
Amateur: fiddle, guitar, vocal, beginner on bass.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,204
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,204
So, if you open Track View and compare the stems in question to BIAB native tracks side by side (in the same view) they are visually out of sync?

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 593
S
shlind Online Content OP
Journeyman
OP Online Content
Journeyman
S
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 593
Attached are the BIAB track view with the main audio file and all the stems the audio file has been time mapped via ACW and and then stem separated
They all play in sync.

The cursor playing the main audio is on a vocal top, and when "solo" the vocal stem below it is playing the same vocal at the same time, but the vocal top in the audio stem is not there it is far later.
it seems that the time map has been applied to both the master audio and the stem tracks ok but that the visual representation of the stems have not being adjusted to reflect that.

Also attached is the same files exported from BIAB (drag/drop) and into SP, and there they are all lined up in sync (i have not adjusted the time line for the bars) i.e. the same as they are played in BIAB.

(I probably don't know what I am doing, and it does not matter since it seems to work, only problem is that one can not follow along with the stem tracks).

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)

BIAB 2026, Studio Pro 8, Song Master Pro, Win11 Home. i7-9700K CPU, 32GB, ESI MAYA44eX, ZOOM UAC-2, Guitar Pro 8, Transcribe, (EZKeys2, EZD3, SD3, EZBass, EZMix3)
Amateur: fiddle, guitar, vocal, beginner on bass.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,204
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 7,204
Thanks for taking time to document this. I've reported to devs.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!

If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!

Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.

The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.

The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.

Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!

Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.

Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!

Order now!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,020
Posts799,017
Members40,011
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
Newest Members
TimTom420, drodger, GTRRO, harshitsharmamusic, PsyChloDelic
40,010 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 161
DC Ron 109
rsdean 103
DrDan 75
Noel96 66
Today's Birthdays
charliep, HorstFriedel, Jeff Fuqua
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5