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Scott, The drums and bass are great. The groove is amazing and hard to create with RealTracks only. Your vocals fit this song so well. Enjoyed my listen a lot. Best regards. Shigeki Adachi
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Hi Mike, I spent over 5 weeks liaising with PG Music via their chat and via email, giving as much detail as I could about my issue with BIAB 2025 PRO. I was told it would all be passed on to the developers. My 2025 version was replaced by the 2024 version but I still had the same issues. Here is my step by step description of the process: Step 1: I open up the program and click on New Song. I enter in the Chords manually into the blank chord sheet. Step 2: I make sure I choose a style I like. I adjust the tempo, key, etc. Step 3: I play this to hear how it sounds. I t works perfectly to this point. Step 4: I click on the Editable Notation button and enter the melody manually. This all works perfectly as well. Step 5: I give the song its Title and then click Save to save the song in BIAB. All is still perfectly fine. Step 6: I then click on the "L" , the Note Lyrics Edit button, and enter in the lyrics to each of the notes in the song. This all works perfectly well. I save as I go. When I replay it, everything works as it should. The lyrics match the notes of the song as it plays. Step 7: I repeat these 6 steps with a new song. It all works perfectly as it should. I am able to move from one song to the other without a problem. Step 8: I now enter a third new song, and all is fine, until I start moving from one song to the next. This is where I start to find the lyrics are very unstable. Sometimes they are in the right song but totally in the wrong place. Or I'll get the wrong lyrics withe the wrong song when I click on it. Or I'll get a mixture of songs lyrics across the three songs. Step 9: Here I erase all the lyrics of the songs and enter them again. Same issue everytime I do. Same corruption of the lyrics across the songs. Everything else works perfectly; the song plays in the right key, the right style, the right notation is there, but the single note lyrics is all over the place.
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Izzy, Izzy, Izzy! Simple song my backside! I always love listening to your songs. You are an A1 songwriter and dare I say your songs have commercial appeal. The way you write lyrics and weave melody, vocals and instruments in and out of the mix, it just always takes the listener on a wonderful journey. And your vocals are always spot on, you have a great singing voice. I'm off for another listen… Bravo Izzy,
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Great Scott, Scott that is great. It is modern blues. Sort of tune a certain Mr Gilmour might record. Sounds excellent to my layman’s ears. Beautiful clean tone and has a slow brooding, dare I say, menacing feel to it. I enjoyed my listens. Kind regards.
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Steve, that was fantastic. Your sax chops are second to none. Those in military service are not only the best audience they are the best people our country has. God bless them. MarioD- I appreciate the kind words. And yes... they are the best of every generation.
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You can follow the code? Very good. I’m curious then: did you try importing BIAB’s exported XML file into another program? Which one(s) would you want it to work with? I think the eventual answer here would be for PG Music to find a company such as a notation program where the two companies could experiment with developing a new feature in Music XML. Or maybe the concept already exists? My point is it would seem futile to add this feature for export unless there is a destination for the info. I hope someone has thought of this and there are programs that could read such code. Then I would give your suggestion a huge +1 From what I have observed, the pace of development of Music XML, which holds so much progress, has slowed.
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Is the audio file you have a well known song? If so, you could search the Titles database. Open the MultiPicker and click on the Titles tab - enter the song title to search for and you may be able to find suitable styles that way. It won't suggest styles by analyzing an audio file, though that would certainly be a good feature.
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Good point - we should add a 'RealCharts' indicator in the Track label area on the Mixer and Tracks window.
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If you go to Help | About, and look at the very bottom of this dialog, it will tell you where Band-in-a-Box is running, e.g.: C:\bb\BBW64.exe The .st2 files like RElGt187.st2 that it is complaining about need to be present in the Soloists folder in that bb directory, e.g.: C:\bb\Soloists. When you install RealTracks, the audio files go in the RealTracks folder (which may be a custom location like), and the .st2 files go in the Soloists subfolder in your main Band-in-a-Box folder. Try doing a search for one of the missing st2 files on your computer and see where it's found.
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Wow, lot's interesting feedback on this, obviously, controversial topic. Great overview of the legal aspects by David Snyder. I was recently introduced to Suno by a long time writing friend of mine. Definitely knew it was coming, but had no idea what the beast looked like, until I took a close look at it. We had discussed it as a writing tool, a way to demo songs from our catalogues that we never had in the past. In Suno you can upload a basic demo, piano-vocal, guitar-vocal, the lyric and then in the Remix/Edit mode, select "Cover". You add a prompt, providing some guidance on style, instrumentation, etc, and within a few minutes you have a surprisingly solid demo, true to your lyric and melody. But as the posters have noted, it goes way beyond that. Dropping a professionally written lyric into Suno, using good prompts, will spit out a pretty decent song. The system is built on millions of songs being analyzed, and following long established successful patterns of melody, structure, harmonies, etc.. As some have argued, it's not that different than what pro writers do, creating songs out of their past musical influences, what they have cultivated over the years. That's what the WBM was about, that Suno had used millions of copyrights without permission to create songs. Suno convinced the courts, it was not stealing exact lyrics & melodies, only analyzing patterns. It looks like the best WBM and others music companies will be able to do, is get a fee to allow access to catalogues for "model" building. Getting back to my imaginary Suno song, produced from just a lyric. This, IMO, is where it can get slippery. Everyone is so desperate to get their music used commercially, how many people will run with that AI generated song and claim total authorship, lyric & music. As the article suggests, some writers, stuck for a good chorus, because what they have isn't working, will dump some of their lyric into Suno and may end up using a good portion of the chorus that was generated. Kind of like having a writing partner in the room, but it's a machine. As David Snyder pointed out, if the music or lyric was generated by AI, the copyright office will not issue a copyright (now), but if the song get's cut, a mechanical license will be granted and now that record has copyright protection. The cat is out of the bag, AI music generation will only continue to improve, especially the fidelity of what they are generating in the country genre. Hopefully, it will be a while before a machine can generate a top notch lyric, but that also is probably coming. Publishers, artists, AR people have probably already been getting some very "cutable" product. Outside of country/pop, the rest of what I heard on Suno was nothing short of amazing. I imagine the majority of what I have listened to is AI generated, maybe some original lyrics, hopefully some songs based on original lyrics and melody. Makes you think, outside of the inner circle who write with artists and get cuts, artists who write their own material, all the other songwriters, if they are looking to make a living, better learn a trade. Of course it's kind of like that now. If you aren't teaching other people how to write songs or you aren't writing with artists, there's not a lot of money to be made. As a final thought. Maybe down the road the music industry companies buy the best AI music generating companies and generate the vast majority of commercial music, with actual human artists and maybe a few writers or would they be better described as "prompters". The rest of the masses can have access to a less "robust" AI platform, for those people who want to pick a genre, ask the AI to write a song about a cat, who falls in love with a dog, only to find out the dog is seeing other cats. It will spit out a cute little ditty, but nothing that threatens the real music industry. Oh I just though of a title without AI, "You Dog".
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Dan, you and Buddy wrote some fantastic music. I really liked "May God's Blessing Rest On You". Sorry for your loss RIP Buddy
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A great story, Herb, and one that I wasn't really aware of. Neil's music has always been outstanding.
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Hi Chris, I've tested and confirmed that indeed these colors are not restored correctly, even though Display Options shows that scheme has been loaded. I'll report this to the developers.
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Donny, what a great song. Super vocal and lyrics. Super groove and backing band. I liked this one a lot! Thanks MarioD, I like your writing too. Donny G
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An angelic voice for a very beautiful and moving song. Very well done. Laurent Merci beaucoup for your really kind comment, Laurent. Much appreciated ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif)
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A beautiful song about the place where I write most of my songs, somewhere out in the woods (though not in the mangroves), all alone with myself and my dog. Your vocal arrangement gives the piece an almost operatic atmosphere in places, and I really like what you did with your four singers. Very good
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Hi All, This was written one late foggy afternoon this past Fall in the Gettysburg National Cemetery… GETTYSBURG Autumn and the skies are turning The cemetery is getting dark And no I don’t want to walk Through the fields today There’s a haze on the briars And dew on the burrs Down in Gettysburg The fence posts lean like they’re tired A crow lifts without a sound A chill that won’t explain itself Settling into my coat And the ground is holding Everything it’s learned Down in Gettysburg Trace my breath in the cold air Watch it disappear too soon There’s a pull in the dirt and the stones Like it knows why I’m here And it don’t say anything About what it’s heard Down in Gettysburg BIAB Tracks: 2474: Bass, Acoustic, Held 2921: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm 3541: Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm 2337: Violin, Background 3064: Vocal Oohs, Rhythm RealDrums: MalletsSW16Slow Other Notes: Bob Mic: Logitech Blue Yeti Bob Vocals: Logic Pro Bob 2nd Acoustic Guitar: Martin D-18 Waves Vocal Rider Izotope Nectar 3 Elements for Vocals Izotope Plasma for Instrument Tracks Processing Final Track Mix & Master: Logic Pro & Izotope Ozone 11 As always - thanks for listening! Bob
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Yes, this is one of the few times I actually agree with Rick 
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Hey Mario! If that works and also consistently affects the tabs in the sheet music, in particular string&fret numbers in exported MusicXML files (and maybe also in exported Midi files), then this would already help a lot for the most important fretboard preference. I'll check that out! I'm afraid it doesn't.
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Red Dirt Roads v2 Sorry to post Red Dirt Roads again, but this is an updated version based on a couple of comments that the original needed spreading and needed reverb. This mix certainly has opened the song up, but i'd be interested to know if listeners feel i've overdone the reverb and spread. Having spread the music and added reverb, i did have trouble getting the vocals to sit just right. Interested to know if others think i've overcooked it now. Feel free not to listen again if you overheard it already. Kind regards
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Thanks for your comment Om! I usually don't use RB as I prefer to stay within just one app and that has been BIAB. It could be that RB covers all that BIAB can handle, need to check. Will also read your tips input. Besides, there are a couple items that I'm trying understand what's really happening in the BIAB 2026 version and will soon update my fairly recent post "Audio Track issues". Thomas
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Thank you Janne I’ve never made anyone shake in their chair before - missus included! You sure it wasn’t an earth tremor! It does have that relentless beat of a long drive doesn’t it? I am working on an updated version as a few have mentioned it needs opening up a bit, and on playback I tend to agree. We’re in the middle of a heatwave here in Oz at the moment. I went to work on it yesterday, put the headphones on and couldn’t last more than 10 minutes. It’s amazing how much heat your head generates and how wearing headphones magnifies that heat. Hopefully the heatwave will break later today, so I’ll get back onto it, stayed tuned. Thank you for the listening and kind comments. Kind regards.
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Jazzers often like to think of a diminished chords as a 7th chord missing the root, because we like to "understand" things using stable intervals, even if they aren't there at all.  The other thing about diminished triads and fully diminished 7 chords, of course, is that there are effectively only three of them for the whole octave because they invert seamlessly. Again a separate bass note gives the context.
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It all depends. I find AI to be more helpful than the Finale manual and a lot faster—except when it is wrong and that is frequently. It doesn’t know the difference between features introduced in 27 and those discontinued in 2014. So, I have two tabs open on a side monitor—one with the manual and the other showing AI. The last Finale print manual had over 4,000 pages (2004 IIRC) on 500+ sheets of paper printed 4 pages per side—absolutely useless. BIAB is not nearly as complex and I have no problem searching the documentation on those rare occasions when I have a question. Hi Mike I’ve been working on the exact same problem. I loaded a ~4,000-page Merck Manual (Medical) locally and built a small system around it so the AI answers strictly from that material. No GPU required — this runs fine on a normal computer. The key is structuring the data and using retrieval (RAG), not raw model size. If you can run Python and have enough RAM, you can do this. This will not fix 100% of the issues, but it will fix most. I assume P G Music has done the same for the AI on their website. Cheers, Billy Not something I would assume but certainly looks like the best way forward. Well done!
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Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
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