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Here's a quick one. An explanation/reiteration of sorts. Cognosce Inimicum Tuum BIAB organ & drums..as well as BIAB percussion. Any suggestions, comments, criticisms etc. are most welcome as this is a work in progress. LYRICS: Palestine & Gaza Israel & Trump Plaza Ukraine and the bear The gunman doesn't care Armed teachers he advises Culture metastasizes Malignancy as virtue It isn't guns that hurt you Truth no longer abides Too late they've taken sides You say I should scream and shout You say let my feelings out I say polemics is a stew guaranteed to make me spew There's nothing it can do Prince Rupert & the Cult Magazine cover dolt Myanmar and Rohinga Don't you point the finger Duck & cover drills at school Apartheid makes them drool Famine in the Congo Foreign aid takes too long so Truth no longer abides Too late they've taken sides You say I should scream and shout You say let my feelings out I say polemics is a stew guaranteed to make me spew There's nothing it can do Can't reach the ones who won't Can't change the ones who don't Seems they've all taken sides Armed and joined their tribes & those left in the middle Ignore as the rich fiddle Refugees are drowning Talking heads are frowning Truth no longer abides Too late they've taken sides You say I should scream and shout You say let my feelings out Well now I'm on the 3rd chorus & there's no one on this bus There's nothing it can do You say I should scream & shout But that won't change a mind or doubt I prefer to make my case Without spittle on my face That's just how & what I do.
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Ok, I pulled the trigger. Thanks.
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Bob, ooooh... That opening is killer. Your fingerstyle guitar is SO tasteful, and the tone is so THERE. Your lyrical journey is very intimate, per usual, and the delivery is spot on. Love Joliz's harmony lines, and how she expertly shifts the timing rather than shadowing you exactly. Adds a delicious uncertainty to the music that align with the narrative perfectly. Super vocals by you, too. The vocal FX on this one sound a bit different but that may be my imagination. I'm hearing more high frequency and less compression (or maybe less Vocal Rider). Like I said, my hearing is definitely not what is used to be. Super cool song!
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Andrew, as you may know, all my songs start with my brother's lyrics. If there are no lyrics (for me), there is no song. I write all the music by storyboarding the lyrics in my head and seeking to build a supportive musical pathway for the lyrics. Sure, it has to sound good, too. But it's all feel for me, and little analysis. … Hi Ron! I wasn’t thinking so much about workflow (the ‘how’), but more about primacy of aim (the ‘what’ and ‘why’). But, I recognise your context might not fit my model perfectly. Your brother is aimed at lyrics and (I am assuming, but could be wrong) with the ‘feeling’ sides of my grid, and you - finding a way of supporting and expressing those lyrics musically, so with greatest respect and not meaning to pigeon-hole you, I would place you mid-centre and upper (feelings/story) side of the grid. I am assuming that because you work with your brother’s lyrics, you are highly attuned to what the words are saying in people’s songs, but also understanding the feelings conveyed in music, including instrumentals? Again, not trying to categorise, but trying to find what makes different songwriters ‘tick’. Andrew Hmmm. Well, I'd say I'm in the extreme upper left quadrant of your diagram. As kids, we spent many, MANY hours decoding song lyrics and their meanings. It was just our thing. Seems he mastered the art of lyric composition (in my opinion) while I soldiered on with the guitar, though mostly jazz guitar. It wasn't until over 40 years later that I realized he'd written (literally) thousands of song lyrics, and I was faced with a cool-but-daunting treasure trove of song foundations. Having worked through the 40+ year backlog, we're working on new songs today. But it's still lyrics first, with a musical emphasis on the feeling behind those lyrics...
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... I'm not using the inspirational or educational aspects of BiaB much except by occasional accident. BiaB is certainly a Swiss Army knife with a dizzying array of blades... Thanks Ron - yes, I love the occasional accidents that occur with BIAB - as if you’re playing in a band and a band mate does something unexpected “Hey, what did you do there?” I had several notebooks with songs and song ideas and no real way to record them to a professional sounding level. ... Hi Herb - I hope you still have those notebooks - I occasionally look through my own as a reminder of where I’ve come from. ... The rest of my story is virtually identical to yours. Other than generating great backing tracks the main thing about BiaB for me it allows me to play in genres I generally wouldn't use. Without BiaB I doubt that I would be playing today. Thanks Mario! I honestly say I didn’t think consciously about genres until BIAB - I was in my own little world. Just thought I'd quickly chime in here to also say without BIAB, I would still be a completely frustrated vocalist with no expressive musical outlet. It's been awesome and not just in terms of being able to accompany myself and bring tunes to fruition. It's also been a very appreciated forum experience. When I think of other "environments" and how people treat one another, it deserves to be acknowledged how the culture here is so supportive and cordial. I've learned so much from the folks here. And if it were just that it would have been more than enough, but I also love hearing the original music of others instead of that stuff that all sounds alike out there. So Andrew, I'm really glad it's done so much for you and that we all get to see and hear your progress. Hi Beth! I wholeheartedly agree about this encouraging and inspiring forum. I’m so glad you found BIAB and are able to put shape and form around your ideas so we can hear them. …I currently have 50 originals finished/recorded which averages out to (1) song a year since I started song writing back in 1974. I only have about 35 or so uploaded to Soundclick/Soundcloud. I can honestly say that 20 of those (all done with my collaborator-in-chief guitarist Ken Lasaine) 50 would have likely never been written if it weren't for such a stellar program to flesh out my song writing efforts. … Admittedly, even though I have a few topic titles written down, I've been in a creative deficit lately.  … Thanks Wayne! Hoping you find your spark of inspiration soon. It was good to hear that BIAB helped your collaborative efforts also. For me, the most important change was that I changed from a instrumental-first person to a lyrics-first person. With BIAB, it's totally easy to find an arrangement that fits the lyrics. Thanks B.D.! I tend to be music-first, but when I have gone lyrics-first, BIAB has been very helpful - but not enough to break me out of my stubborn ways! Your approach has certainly led to some impressive results! ... But unlike our bandmates we also listened to multiple genres including rock, country, big band, jazz and blues. Bud had mixed since the mid 60's and discovering BiaB and the forum in 2011 allowed us to explore and create productions in the aforementioned genres ... something we never dreamed of. So to the topic, it certainly forced huge changes in our song writing! And we met folks who have become true friends as mentors, partners and both. Hi J&B! I didn’t know about your bluegrass background, so good to hear BIAB opened up your horizons. I love hearing about the friendships through the forum. If ever the forum arranged a Zoom meet of members, I’d be there to meet people ‘face-to-face’ - but probably hard when we are all around the globe. Thank you all for your comments and sharing your own stories! Andrew
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Herb what an outstanding song. Josh's vocal, your guitar, and the mix all were outstanding but the lyrics made it for me. They are so true. You heavy rock side of Contemporary Christian music is second to none. A truly outstanding song. Loved it.
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Nicely done. It's a good one for drifting off on this Wednesday morning before the day starts Thanx Herb I'm glad that you liked it. That was lovely, Mario, and sorely needed by me today. Thank you! Thanx Beth. I hope you are having a great day now. Thanx for listening and commenting.
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Chay, you are absolutely correct in that this is the best version of this song. The string section compliments her fantastic vocal perfectly, brilliant! I was not distracted by the organ at all. As usual an outstanding mix. I'm looking forward to your next song featuring Lucy.
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While I do agree with the sentiment of refuse to grow old .... There comes a time when it's time to retire, especially if you are not able to do what you used to do. I've seen a number of musicians who are still performing and giving a great performance and experience to the audience and fans and I've seen others that were embarrassingly bad and should have been home with their families, not on the road on stages trying to sing. Exactly right! Which is why I was very pleasantly surprised by the "boys" in 10cc. Can't believe they need the money, or that the money is that good playing 500-seat venues. Truthfully, they just seemed to be enjoying themselves immensely, and happy to play the way they still can. The audience was certainly appreciative...
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Thank you very much for listening and for your detailed feedback on both the song and my question, David ![[Linked Image]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif) But other than to comply with the spirit of the forum, there was no need to replace those instruments. The odds are pretty good that those AI tracks that were replaced by BiaB were as good as what they were replaced with from BiaB, because they were customized to that particular song I didn't replace anything, I just added something where something was missing so that it sounds the way I wanted it to. But I understand your point of view very well, and it is an entirely valid point!
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A life in a song - a wonderful idea, wrapped up in a beautiful folk song, unfortunately with a somewhat sad ending. Very good
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It has been released a new operating system for Macbook Pro named TAHOE. What version of BiaB run on this new operating system ? I do not want to upgrade until I know if my BiaB can be run in this new operating system.
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Thanks And for your generous comments - much appreciated, glad it sounded ok to you! Best regards, Carl
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Apple has released a new operating system for Macbook Pro named TAHOE. I would like to know if I upgrade my Macbook Pro to this new Operating System, I can run my Band-in-a-Box® for Macintosh Version 2024 (806). Or I need to wait until PGMusic develop a new version ( $$$ ) that runs in that operating System... I appreciate yor comments and info. Best wishes Humberto
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I echo all the accolades. Excellent collaborative work! Enjoyed my listen!
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An excellent idea. Thank you.
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Yes, usually work is done up to or very close to the next version. However this year MAY be different as PGM has asked for user's input on improving BiaB via the wishlist forum. Depending on how much is being changed from the current version MAY impact correcting bugs in the current version. I don't work here so this is just my speculation on your request and may or may not be the case.
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Hi Ron, A really cool song. Great vocals. The mix sounds fantastic. Great songwriting with a great background track. Absolutely TOP. Andi ;-)
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Hi Beth, 23 songs? Wow, that's a lot!!! I think I'll only manage one this year, maybe two with a bit of luck ;-) Your new song sounds good. Well sung, and the background track suits the song well too. The backing vocals add a nice depth. Good work, Beth. Keep having fun and making great songs with BiaB. Andi ;-)
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Hi Chris, Dave, and Marty, Cool song. The mix sounds really good. Excellent playing and singing. The mix has a nice depth to it. Chris sings each passage perfectly. Dave's solo not only sounds great, but is also played superbly, of course. All of this is accompanied by Marty's fantastic bass line, of course. The lyric video is a nice extra. Great work by everyone. Andi ;-)
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Right now, there is a bug in BiaB/Mac that fails to display the styles in the Style Picker Window. A few of my Mac customers noticed my styles weren't showing up anymore, after the latest upgrade. After experimenting I thought the problem was with BiaB, so I brought it up with PG Music, they checked and responded that it was indeed a BiaB/Mac bug, and they will work on it and fix it ASAP. Thanks, PG Music, for caring about your customers and addressing any problems that occur.
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In a rock band I was in, the one that almost made it, I played sax but doubled on bass, drums, rhythm guitars, and keyboard. That band broke up, I went through a few more, and during the psychedelic era, when nobody wanted to hire a sax player, I gigged playing bass. I found it to be a very rewarding instrument. Much more fun than rhythm guitar in the realm of creativeness. At least for me. I wouldn't want the 12 string beast though, it might be right for others, but not me.
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Thanks for the kind words about my fake disks, Trax and Gordon. I have one on sale for half price right now, until the end of September. About 3.5 cents per song. https://www.nortonmusic.com/fake29.html I have 52 fake disks, average price is about 7 cents per song. Again, no melodies. Some copyright holders refused, others asked for as much a $2.50 per song. If you need the melodies, most of them have companion fake books sold by Hal Leonard, and other publishers. I have links on the same page as the fake disks.
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