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I imagine that this shouldn't be a particularly difficult issue to resolve. I do hope that PGM takes some notice of this item and sorts it out.

Can you name some of the Styles that are marked as n/a ?

Oh, geez. A bunch of years ago, Landr started as an online song mastering app. You upload your mixed track and their app masters it for you. Some of their masters were OK; some were awful. Hit and miss. So now, they're trying something else. Their mastering app must not be generating enough income. Hard pass for me then; hard pass now.

Could you provide some more detail? - What track do you add the RealTrack to? Is it a Utility Track or something else? - Exactly what RealTrack do you use? - Does this same RealTrack work sometimes and not others? - What version / build of the program are you using? - Have you checked that the track is not muted, and that the volume level is set appropriately?

This is a pop song about global warming. Among the reasons Lora and I moved out of Phoenix, Arizona, is because the heat is progressively getting worse, the electrical grid may fail, and the water table is shrinking. They continue to build and grow despite what scientists warn. I selected the instrumentation in the style of Roxy Music's "Avalon" album. Emina Bajtarevic did the vocals. VIDEO: https://www.johnwalradt.com/music/videos/iftheworldends.mp4 AUDIO: https://www.johnwalradt.com/music/songs/iftheworldends_emina-ardensnowmaster.mp3 Song is saved with bar changes for Tempo,Volume Changes, Style is _ATMSPH3.STY (Atmosphere Chillout) RealTracks in style: 1536:Bass, Electric, PopBelieve Ev16 065 Loop in Song: Chillout\Chillout - destiny_71_drum_loop_b_minor ev16.wav RealTracks in style: 2542:Pedal Steel, Background ModernBalladAtmosphere Ev16 065 RealTracks in style: 1543:Synth Pad, PopBelieve Ev16 065 Loop in Style: Chillout\Chillout - lounge_85_fx_f_sharp_minor.wav RealTracks in song: ~1119:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Strumming Ev 120 IF THE WORLD ENDS Words and music by John Walradt Do you remember watching birds in flight over a summer field The sun was warm, and we walked on trails hand in hand We felt the gentle breezes cool our skin, we were without a care How I wish we could bring back those days again. But now the leaves have died, the sun is hot, we are on our own We tried to point to the signs but no one is watching The earth is scorched and the oceans rise, and the fires burn If the world ends where will we ever love again. Our garden is dying It needs all of our loving care. If we are going to write more songs of love Can you tell me if The world ends where will we ever love again. And now we're hermits in a city where they all pretend Nothing's wrong, life rolls on as we pollute the air If we are going to try to mend the earth, we must cooperate Will you care, we must try to learn to share again. Our garden is dying It needs all of our loving care. If we are going to write more songs of love Can you tell me if The world ends where will we ever love again. The world ends Where will we ever love again. The world ends Where will we ever love a- Gain, ah ah ah ah, ah ah ah ah The world ends Where will we ever love again.

Wow & flutter is normal for tape recordings - it's always there to some degree. Remedy #1 - well not a remedy but can help- is to play back on the device it was recorded upon - particularly if the device is still in the condition when recorded. Melodyne could reduce the pitch fluctuations if carefully done - like on a phrase by phrase if not note by note basis.

That looks very interesting. Thanks for your post!

excellent live playing Donny G

BabuMusic, nice little shift in the chord work, I think most flamingo changes would have been Am-Dm-E7, but the F fits well. Nice job. Donny G

Lovely song Robert. My only nit would've been to warm the violin a little as it was as chill as the frost.

Glad you liked the vocal and lyric and we appreciate your observations on the percussion and harmonica. We spent a while trying to get the “right” harp fills. Got a msg to you about the collab process. Thanks for the positive and supportive review! J&B

Sometimes I come up with a ridiculous song like this. Besides the Band in a Box files, I sent my vocals through the online royalty free AI program (which does not cull from works done by other artists), Audimee, and used the screwball vocal of "Ralph." https://www.johnwalradt.com/music/songs/listentothedogs-2026jan03.mp3 Style is _CMPFMH2.STY (Campfire, Hank 2 Guitars) RealTracks in style: ~528:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Hank Sw 120 RealTracks in style: ~372:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Hank Sw 120 RealTracks in song: 2855:Harmonica, Background CountrySwingJellyRoll Sw 120 LISTEN TO THE DOGS SCREW AT MIDNIGHT Words and music: John Walradt Well, the evening’s warm though the sun’s gone down And I’m feelin’ good though you’re still around Well, pretty soon we’re gonna be homeward bound Just listen to them romantic sounds. Well, listen to the dogs screw at midnight Listen to them crazy dogs go at it in mid-flight And I say it to you I think we ought to do it, too Listen to them crazy dogs screw at midnight. Well, this farm is full of pups and little kitty cats And I tell you, my friend, they know just where it’s at By the light of the silvery moon They’re gonna get it on in the month of June. Well, listen to the dogs screw at midnight Listen to them crazy dogs go at it in mid-flight And I say it to you I think we ought to do it, too Listen to them crazy dogs screw at midnight. Well, listen to the dogs screw at midnight Listen to them crazy dogs go at it in mid-flight And I say it to you I think we ought to do it, too Listen to them crazy dogs Won’t you listen to them crazy dogs Come on and listen to them crazy dogs Screw at midnight.

You've got a winner here. The sound is very contemporary. "Since when is doubt a crime?" Yup! Great lyrics.

I read the lyrics first. Absolutely fantastic writing. Good vocal delivery and an enjoyable tune. Glad to have you back. I'd been wondering where you had gone to.

Let's start with the root issue. I noticed when I was testing ACW this year, amongst other gaps and issues it has, if it you import an audio file that's 100 bars long and let's say your intial song was set up for 50 bars by default, it is not easy to solve that problem. ACW should make the song bars equal to the bars in the audio track. (problem solved) Beware, AI chats will often tell you what you want to hear.

This is the first song I ever used Band in a Box for after buying it in 2020. For style I typed in Graham Nash. When I came up with the melody, I thought it sounded like something Graham Nash would write so I tried to come up with some philosophical words to go with it. I based it on the time in autumn when I drove to Los Angeles and stayed there for about a month before heading off to the Mojave Desert. The instruments are entirely that of Band in a Box. The vocals are by Clay Collins. Of course, because of the line "What book shows everything," I was told in a review on Broadjam to turn to the Bible. Sigh. https://www.johnwalradt.com/music/songs/mostofnothing_clay-march18.mp3 Style is _FREEDOM.STY (Freedom Fast Folk Rock) MelodyCustom Synth is Hi-Q 049 01 Strings, Ensemble, Chamber Sforzando RealTracks in style: ~520:Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 165 RealTracks in style: 3217:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Rhythm CampfireEven Ev 165 RealTracks in style: 3172:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm CampfireEven Ev 165 MIDI SuperTracks in song: 2060:Strings, Rhythm PopCountry Ev 120 RealDrums in style:PunkRock^01-a:Closed Hat , b:Open Hat THE MOST OF NOTHING Words and music by John Walradt When I was young I went back to the city To see what I could see I saw the shops, the movies, and the beaches And people on the streets And when I came back home A question stood in front of me Is there a place where I can play and sing I looked around to find something to believe in Looking with all the most, the most of nothing. So what is true, so tell me where’s the ticket What book shows everything If on the road, well, is there such a map That can show your destiny ‘Cause love is far away, as far as the horizon You’ll have to find a place to play and sing I might find peace, I’m always compromising Make do with all the most, the most of nothing. Where are you from Do you have all the answers How did you find me here Are you still lost, or are you still a seeker Then come along with me And we’ll go far away, as far as the horizon And we can find a place to play and sing And we may find that nothing is everything Find love with all the most, the most of nothing.

I’d Shift-Ctrl-F1 that idea Andrew!

That's what I am a huge proponent of. Music should be taught in school. Maybe I was lucky but I had band class in 2nd grade (my parents were not so lucky because they had to attend that recital) Then we moved from Detroit area north and I had to wait until 5th grade to have a band class again. Music students learn differently than others, as I tried to state in my essay. A lot of math and dexterity and thinking becomes second nature just from practice. When you have a class, you practice more than private lessons. At least I did. I did both at the same time for a lot of years (school and private) and I can guarantee you I was going to disappoint that one private teacher before disappointing a whole class. //well that & the private was a LOT harder once they knew my capabilities

Torrey, Thanks. Very appreciated. Bob

This was posted in the BIAB for Win section, but I'll post it here for those who might be interested: There are many styles that I know I'll never use and I wanted to get them and the categories and genres out of my style picker list so that it would be easier to select the styles that I want without having to make my way around the multitude of ones I'd never use. After trying several methods, some of which are very time consuming, I came up with this easy to do work-around solution which gives me exactly the results I wanted. It results in showing just the main and sub-categories that you want at the top, and then you can have all other categories that you want to keep listed moved to the bottom, and you can totally remove the ones you absolutely don't want. Just this one modification affects the StylePicker in both BIAB and RealBand. 1. Close BIAB (and RealBand) 2. Go to your BB folder (C:\BB or wherever your BB folder is located). 3. Go to and open your \BB\Data folder 4. Find the file named stylz_kategories_MENU.txt 5. MAKE A COPY OF THE stylz_kategories_MENU.txt FILE and copy that copy to a safe place in case something goes wrong so you can revert to the original painlessly. 7. In NOTEPAD or your text editor of choice, open the stylz_kategories_MENU.txt file 8. Remove (delete) the categories and names that you want to exclude in the Style Picker All Categories list. The CATEGORY NAMES (GENRES) are ALL CAPS in the dashed lines and the categories are listed underneath with the $ separators, like the example that is shown here and further down in this post (the actual style files and names will be listed in the Style Picker in BIAB under the categories listed here. They are not shown in the stylz_kategories_MENU.txt file) EXAMPLE: ------------------------------ COUNTRY STYLES ------------------------------ EVERYTHING COUNTRY$Country Country Ballad$Country Ballad Country Classic$Country Classic Country Contemporary$Country Contemporary $$ More... ------------------------------ MORE COUNTRY STYLES ------------------------------ Boom Chick$Boom Chick Rockabilly$Rockabilly Spaghetti Western$Spaghetti Western Country Swing$Country Swing Country Waltz$Country Waltz $$end ------------------------------ TRADITIONAL/WORLD STYLES ------------------------------ Bluegrass$Bluegrass Celtic$Celtic Folk$Folk World$World $$ More... ------------------------------ BLUEGRASS ------------------------------ Bluegrass Waltz$Bluegrass Waltz You can copy and paste to move or arrange the styles categories and category names to suit your genre preferences. You can move the categories to different CATEGORY NAMES if you prefer. 9. When done editing, save the new, edited file with the exact same file name stylz_kategories_MENU.txt 10. Restart BIAB. 11. In the StylePicker under Options > Set StylePicker Options, uncheck the box on the setting of "Default display should include all styles (available and N/A not available)", if that's your preference. 12. Open your styles list and see how it looks! After a few tries you'll be able to get it just how you want it. You can repeat the process as often as you want to experiment until you get it the way you want. IF YOU MAKE CHANGES OR UPDATES TO THE stylz_kategories_MENU.txt FILE, do it with BIAB CLOSED and restart BIAB after you've saved the stylz_kategories_MENU.txt file. In my experimentation I found that it seems that $$More forces a subwindow and $$end ends the list in the subwindow. When those tags are moved and / or deleted with some experimentation I found that I had a full screen with three columns listing all of my styles that are only in the categories that I wanted. But then I found that with my 3 columns of styles listed on the screen, when I moved the mouse over to the 3rd column the columns on the left disappeared so I couldn't make a selection back over in the 2nd column. The solution that worked for me is I put the $$ More... statement after my first list of preferred styles that filled up my first column. That forced all of the other styles that I rarely use or use much less in a new column, and that new column had arrows at the top and bottom that allows the list in that column to scroll up and down through all the remaining categories and styles lists. Works for me. Some of you might have far more styles than I do so you might have to get creative with the $$ More... and $$end... statements to manipulate the lists, windows and columns. I just experimented to find what worked and didn't. If anything looks wrong after experimentation, you can always revert back to the original if you copy your unchanged, original saved stylz_kategories_MENU.txt file back to your \BB\Data folder. I found that doing a REBUILD had no effect on my new, updated categories or styles list. I didn't get any new styles so I can't comment on what would happen if I had a new disk full of new styles.... Worst case scenario I could probably reset the stylz_kategories_MENU.txt file back to before my changes and then install the new files. If anyone has more info or ideas on an easier way, better way or suggestions, please post them, and if you have questions, let me know. I'm not a pro at this or the detailed workings of BIAB like some of the folks here - I just got curious to see if it could be done and one thing led to another, and here we are. Hope this helps someone. BluegrassPicker BTW, a truncated version (for brevity here) of my stylz_kategories_MENU.txt file is listed below and a screen shot of my styles list is included in this post so you can see how the $$More and $$end statements affected my list. =========================================================== ------------------------------ BLUEGRASS ------------------------------ Bluegrass$Bluegrass BLUEGRASS$Band - Bluegrass Bluegrass Waltz$Bluegrass Waltz ------------------------------ COUNTRY STYLES ------------------------------ EVERYTHING COUNTRY$Country Country Ballad$Country Ballad Country Classic$Country Classic Country Contemporary$Country Contemporary COUNTRY BALLADS$Band - Country Ballads COUNTRY SWING$Band - Country Swing COUNTRY EVEN$Band - Country Even COUNTRY POP 16THS$Band - Country Pop 16ths PRAISE AND WORSHIP$Band - Praise and Worship COUNTRY WALTZ$Band - Country Waltz CAMPFIRE$Band - Campfire Boom Chick$Boom Chick Rockabilly$Rockabilly Spaghetti Western$Spaghetti Western Country Swing$Country Swing Country Waltz$Country Waltz ------------------------------ FOLK ------------------------------ Acoustic Guitar Ballad$Acoustic Guitar Ballad Campfire$Campfire Folk Rock$Folk Rock ------------------------------ POP BALLADS ------------------------------ Acoustic Guitar Ballad$Acoustic Guitar Ballad Piano Ballad$Piano Ballad Power Ballad$Power Ballad Synth Pop Ballad$Synth Pop Ballad $$ More... ------------------------------ TRADITIONAL/WORLD STYLES ------------------------------ Celtic$Celtic Folk$Folk World$World ------------------------------ CELTIC ------------------------------ Air$Air Hornpipe$Hornpipe Jig$Jig Reel$Reel Slip Jig$Slip Jig ------------------------------ POP/ROCK/BLUES STYLES ------------------------------ EVERYTHING POP$Pop Ballad$Ballad Blues$Blues Funk$Funk Lite Pop$Lite Pop Medium Rock$Medium Rock ------------------------------ MODERN POP ------------------------------ Modern Pop$Modern Pop ------------------------------ BLUES ------------------------------ Acoustic Blues$Acoustic Blues New Orleans$New Orleans Texas Blues$Texas Blues ------------------------------ LITE POP ------------------------------ Doo Wop$Doo Wop New Age$New Age New Wave$New Wave Tropical$Tropical ------------------------------ SOUL/R&&B/FUNK ------------------------------ Gospel$Gospel Modern R&&B$Modern R&B Praise Break$Praise Break ------------------------------ DANCE/HIP HOP GENRES ------------------------------ Hip Hop$Hip Hop ------------------------------ ROCK ------------------------------ Power Ballad$Power Ballad Prog Rock$Prog Rock ------------------------------ OTHER ------------------------------ Classical$Classical NEW in 2026$Twentytwentysix ------------------------------ JAZZ STYLES ------------------------------ JAZZ SWING$Band - Jazz Swing BOSSA/LATIN$Band - Bossa/Latin ------------------------------ POP/ROCK STYLES ------------------------------ TOP 40$Band - Top 40 ROCK$Band - Rock POP$Band - Pop ------------------------------ OTHER ------------------------------ CLASSICAL$Band - Classical UTILITY$Band - Utility ------------------------------ MORE ------------------------------ Soundtrack Styles$Soundtrack MultiStyles (Styles With More Than 2 Substyles)$MultiStyle ------------------------------ GENRES ------------------------------ Ballad$Ballad Bluegrass$Bluegrass Blues$Blues ------------------------------MORE GENRES---------------------------- Jazz$Jazz Latin$Latin Lite Pop$Lite Pop ------------------------------ SUBGENRES ------------------------------ Acoustic Blues$Acoustic Blues Acoustic Guitar Ballad$Acoustic Guitar Ballad Air$Air Bebop$Bebop Big Band$Big Band EDM$EDM Folk Rock$Folk Rock Gospel$Gospel Jungle$Jungle Trap$Trap Tropical$Tropical Worship$Worship $$end Once again, MAKE A COPY OF THE stylz_kategories_MENU.txt FILE and copy that copy to a safe place in case something goes wrong so you can revert to the original painlessly. It works for me and several other users here on the PG Music forum, but it is not officially endorsed by anyone. THE FINE PRINT: YMMV, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, AND MAKE A COPY OF THE stylz_kategories_MENU.txt FILE and copy that copy to a safe place in case something goes wrong so you can revert to the original painlessly. I have no affiliation with PG Music and this modification has not been endorsed or examined by them, so they are innocent.

Thanks for clarifying. I wasn't aware that the 2026 installation also installed the 2025 32 bit version.

Thank you BabuMusic, yea I would gladly bring you into the fold, your music would make us sound better. Thanks again. Donny G

+1/ -1 I can imagine how useful this might be, however... I am not a fan of software that is tethered to online service, especially 3rd party service. So, +1 would be if: PGM servers would act as intermediary between BIAB <->AI api. In similar way you audition styles through picker "online". Obviously, unchecked box to use "online" content will untether program from calling home or other "places". -1 If the process is baked in.... As the one PGM made for "AI lyrics". If it was up to me, I would made that whole "block" as optional enable/disable in preferences. It doesn't belong in Library anyway In short, good idea, but depends how it may be done.

Thank you so much. It's always a nice feeling when someone hears one of my songs.........and likes it.

Two things: first, the biggest detriment is that AI is destroying the ability to think critically, to solve problems, to be creative. People naturally look for the lazy easy way to make money and to just skate by. Second, it violates copyrights clear across the board by culling from works that have already been done. This is also a blatant insult to artists who have done their creations with human thoughts and hands in the first place. People who say, "I created a song using AI," did not create at all. And the music (actually marketing) industry are referring to these imposters as "music designers." We are living in Orwell's "1984," folks.