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this was recently posted on the BIAB Mac forum but got no replies. i also have ver 2011 loaded on a pc and i see the same issue there, so it doesn't seem to be just a Mac issue
have Mac ver 2013 EverythingPak i notice some of the styles (that i'd like to use) play only the drum track when you load them. when the style opens, drums is the only track highlighted and the only track that plays. if you click on some of the other tracks (bass piano ), it indicates there is a patch loaded there. examples of tracks that play only drums: ZZBAL12,
ZZCOUN12, WINDS. the style 12ST&BAN does not play at all. you can see notes being played on the piano kbd at the top but no sounds are heard.
what's going on- is this an issue that my pkg didn't include these styles or just a config setting that needs to be changed ? ?
any help app.
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Are you able to tell if the tracks you cannot hear are MIDI or RealTracks?
Just a shot in the dark, but if you don't have a MIDI synth invoked in the case of software MIDI synth, or don't have it connected or invoked properly in case of Hardware MIDI synth, it is possible to load an all-MIDI style and have RealDrums substitution invoked and you won't hear any of the MIDI tracks, but can see the notes highlighting and the keyboards as well. But there is no synth available to play the sounds.
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Hi fivestring, To add to what Mac has said ... Mac's "shot in the dark" seems to be the answer. I've loaded in the styles (I don't seem to have zzbal12 but the others were there), and they are midi-based styles. To get these to sound, it's necessary to have a midi output driver selected. I don't know about Mac but on the PC, if you go to "Opt | Preferences | Midi driver" and select "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth", you should get sound. (See "1" on the image below.)  If you want to get a better sound for the midi instruments, activate the boxes shown by "2" and select a VST/DXi softsynth from the dropdown list "3". Hope this helps, Noel
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Noel, isn't 2 and 3 only for "live" play using the thru function? I did not think it was for the BIAB parts as such?
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Hi Dennis,
Activating the check-boxes I've labeled 2 sets a software synthesizer into action. Which softsynth that will be is determined by the choice of 3. It can be used in live settings or at home. The softsynth is simply an output for midi tracks. It can be used with "Thru" but it also works with the other tracks (Bass, Piano, Strings, etc.) if they contain midi information. I personally prefer to use softsynths rather than the Microsoft Wavetable. The sound is much better.
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ahh okay I think I get it Noel - 2 is ONLY for the thru, whereas 3 is sort of a shortcut to using the VSTi tab on the main tool bar which of course does pretty much the same thing, yes? I agree vsti's are much better, or even routing it all out via midi to a hardware module  I am trying at present to get ST 2 full version to run nicely with the Hi-Q pickers, but no joy yet. All the folders are where they should be, but it seems BIAB Hi-Q is hard-wired to the BIAB ST Lite instrument folders...I will get there though. Dennis
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When you installed the BIAB Hi-Q sounds, you must install it in the same place that SampleTank thinks its instruments are. After you do that, you need to open SampleTank and hit the Rescan button so that it properly sees the instruments.
See if that doesn't help.
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hey guys, you're right. tks to all, issue is resolved. the drums playing was RealDrums, other tracks were MIDI and i had no midi drivers installed.
really do app the help. TKS TKS TKS
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john, wanted to followup on your reply but i didn't understand a couple of terms you used: BIAB HI-Q sounds and what's the sample tank you're referring to ? ?
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hi noel 96 and tks 4 reply.
yes, i do want to get a better midi sound than what you get from the GS WT. have you used or do you know anything about the Cayote Forte that PGMusic sell for around $40. i really need something with a good acoustic piano sound and also some realistic sounding strings.
i have a Roland A30 keyboard (midi controller) that i want to use with the synth sounds. any sugg ?
thanx again for help with the midi driver issue
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Sorry, 5String -
I was responding to Joden's comment right before my comment.
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Fivestring, As far as I'm aware, you download Coyote Forte and try it out for 30 days to see if you like it or not. The below link will take you to the demo version. http://www.pgmusic.com/coyotefortedxi.audvid.htmOnce the 30 days are up, you'll find that an annoying, intermittent sound starts to play whenever you use the synth. Another softsynth that's also sold by PG Music is Cakewalk's TTS-1. This comes with the purchase of Music Creator. The below link will take you to a PG Music webpage where they compare the different softsynths. http://www.pgmusic.com/dare-to-compare.htmHope this helps, Noel
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When you installed the BIAB Hi-Q sounds, you must install it in the same place that SampleTank thinks its instruments are. After you do that, you need to open SampleTank and hit the Rescan button so that it properly sees the instruments.
See if that doesn't help.
John I actually do NOT want to use the HI-q sounds, I want to use the ST2L FULL library...but trying to get the HI-Q selector in BIAB to use those folders and not the BIAB ST Instruments is a tricky.. It is easy enough running ST via the standard vsti insert route, but I am trying to access them via the HI-Q drop down box...as I said this setting seems to be hard-wired to ONLY the BIAB Hi-Q folders. It is easy enough to tell BIAB where the folder are and install to the locations as you said, but actually getting BIAB picker to recognise them is another matter, well so far at least. I am still figuring it but I will get there eventually. I can use them with no probs via VSTi inserts  Dennis
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Joden -
I believe the Hi-Q selector is nothing more than a saved SampleTank preset. I don't have my music computer in front of me, but basically you would need to load SampleTank with the instrument of choice, then save that preset in the same place BIAB looks for it's VSTi presets. That way, you can select that same instrument again (I believe via the Hi-Q picker), rather than having to set it up again.
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Ahh yes that may work - I had not thought of that. I will have a play around with that. Thanks John
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Actually it seems the Hi-Q's are DXi presets, NOT VSTi presets. Uses a different file structure to the stf, stw and stip formats of the ST VSTi.
I suspect they are incompatible. The layout of the Hi-q instruments, while adhering to the same folder hierarchy, is totally different.
I think the only way to assign a sound from the full version of ST, is to load a VSTi version for each part and select sounds that way. I cannot see a way to replace the BIAB DXi free presets with the ST2 factory ones. The preset for ST2 is a .stip whereas for HI-Q it is .tgs accompanied by a text file titling the preset.
It's not an issue, just needed to figure it out to set it all up before I waste too much time on way way or another.
Thanks again for your help John.
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Hi, Joden -
I've figured out how to make it work, but it's a little work to get there. Of course, once done, it's done. I can't document it right now, but if I find some time this weekend, I'll write it up.
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Hi John,
Would be great if you could explain us how to do it.
Additional question you might know:
Is ist possible to make some sort of "Default" so that I don't have to chose the HI-Q instruments everytime I load a new song?
Cheers
Thomas
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