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What I should have said originally was, MP3s are not burned directly to an AUDIO CD. Does that help?
OK, thanks Matt. Yes this makes more sense.
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I burn tons of mp3's as a data disk (not an audio CD)for one man gig'ers and put them in genre named files.
I never alter a mp3, I believe that waves edit better because the resolution is higher thus better for the final product. Turning it to mp3 would be the last step for me.
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I render my BIAB songs to WAV files, then export them to MP3s via Audacity at 224 bps...
I play them back thru Windows Media Player and they sound really good..
Burn the MP3s to a cd and use a SONY DVD player connected via audio out to a Mackie mixer/BBE/JBL eons...
But the tracks don't sound any where near as good as they do thru WMP...
Am I missing something here, or just doing it wrong?
“... DVD player connected via audio out to a Mackie mixer/BBE/JBL eons...”
Is this your actual signal chain? Are you using an aux send on the Mackie to send the signal to the BBE? You might try running the output of the DVD player directly into the BBE, then to two input channels on the Mackie. WAV's stand up much better to BBE processing than do MP3's.
Anything you mix on home stereo amp/speakers is going to sound DRASTICALLY different through a PA. You probably already know that. Have you tried mixing through your PA?
We use three systems at a gig in case one of them goes down.. First, WAV's played on a Tascam pro CD player into a Soundcraft mixer, second; WAV's on an Ipod, third; WAV's on a laptop. The laptop and Ipod both also have the MP3's of all our stuff, but you really can hear the difference between WAV's and MP3's at 100 dB through a PA. As others have said, I would avoid using MP3's if possible.
Hope this helps.
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Is it not true that once you convert a wav to MP3 you can not go back in the other direction? Kind of how you can not feed sausages backwards through a grinder and get pigs out of the input? If you convert the original wav, once you compress you can not uncompress. My suggestion is that when you have song.wav, you copy it to song2.wav and convert song2.wav to MP3. At the very least you then have the original wav file in uncompressed format to convert it to the MP3.
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To answer the MP3 Gain question.... This program will take a group of MP3 files an "average"them all to a certain level. IT claims to do this with an averaging type system instead of compression/limiter. Overall it works well on batches of the same style of music. It works great on a group of Country Rock, but it seems to fall apart if you have CR + Metal + Folk in the same batch conversion....I still use it because it does work well. As for "uncompressing" an MP3, this is not possible. MP3 is a lossy format, which means it removes information from the audio, information that you ear can reconstruct easily. But it is lost, and can not be recovered, so all you'll be doing is converting the file to .wav, you would still not have the missing info (which to my ear is really noticeable in the higher mid & above range, cymbals, horns, shakers, ect. If your player supports it I would suggest Flac or Ape format. The are loss less codecs that CAN be converted back into the.wav format with no signal loss. I have used these for years in collabs across the Internet with great results on both sides. There is another one called WavPack, but I don't have a lot of experience with that one. And I have used NCH Switch to convert files for years with good results.... 
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You can uncompress a .MP3, but it will be the quality of the .MP3 in a .WAV file. So. speaking just about quality, you cannot go back.
EDIT: I see jcspro40 said the same.
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If I may be allowed to jump in here as a complete newcomer to the forum? IME (and many others) not all mp3 encoders are created equal and some are even faulty. One widely consider excellent, if not the best, is an encoder called LAME. It seems to be in a state of continuous development, much like Audacity, and gets better and better. Unfortunately LAME is a command line driven program but can be front ended with RazorLAME which passes the necessary parameters to LAME and can batch files to be converted. My experience of using these converters leads me to believe that sometimes a wav recorded to near 0dB can create an mp3 that goes into clipping, but not always. I make sure that wavs for conversion are a few dB down. 2 or 3 seems good. I use a Denon DN-C615 for playback of wavs and mp3s. The mp3s seem indistinguishable, to my ear (an old one), when recorded at the LAME "extreme" setting (320kbps). LAME can be found here: http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.phpand RazorLAME here: http://www.dors.de/razorlame/index.phpBut it's only my opinion. C-clef.
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Welcome to the forum, Cclef. You make some good points, particularly about leaving some headroom in your mix. It's good to have you joining us.
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An Obvious point; but did someone mention that MP3 is a 'lossy' format, whereas Wav is not?
In other words if you burn to MP3 then as part of the algorithm some data is chucked away, whereas with Wav you get it all. Its a compromise for small file size - a good one for some functions, but becoming increasingly less relevent, as hard drives become bigger faster better. I believe you can save an MP3 at different bit rates as mentioned above.
If you try to convert MP3 back to Wav then you can only get back what was crunched down - not the discarded data.
I am sure some people on this thread realise this, but on a speed read I coud not find this point.
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I am curios if dmrodes ever got this worked out, the thread is a couple of months old. I am curious what the solution was!
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An Obvious point; but did someone mention that MP3 is a 'lossy' format, whereas WAV is not
At least four of us have alluded to that, but it never hurts to repeat that advice.
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I frequently use a MP3 CD ripper to rip my MP3 files. But, in some cases I am not able to rip my song. I got an error message The file format is not supported. Can anyone suggest me why it is so happen?
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Lacking proper codec to read the file.
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In case anyone's interested, Sonnox who make 'high-end' plugins, have just released a pro-level tool for converting audio files to MP3 (and other codecs) in a controlled, and realtime manner, so that the very best conversions can be made. It's already getting good reviews and certainly the video (link below) is impressive, but it's very expensive at £295... But they're doing a competition on their Facebook page to win a copy, if you'd like to have a go! Sonnox Pro-Codec Overview Video.
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I use Adobe Audition 3 to edit my audio files, after making a wave file in biab. I then save using their option: mp3PRO (FhG)(*.mp3) [don't ask me what the parenthesis parts means - I don't know]. The results are excellent. The free program Audacity also has a "save as .mp3" option, but not sure of the quality.
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I also use Adobe Audition to make MP3s.
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I believe the FhG in paranthesis is denoting the use of the Fraunhofer Professional codec.
May be wrong ..
I have that codec installed and seem to recall noticing that in the details during installation.
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Adobe Audition (and Cool Edit Pro before that) does use the Fraunhofer Codec, so that's likely correct, although there are a few other menu choices for MP3 that do not have those initials.
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