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#434381 - 10/20/17 10:56 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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Just making sure the great development team see how many views and how much support there has been for this missing feature 
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#434442 - 10/20/17 09:31 PM
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+1
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#434472 - 10/21/17 06:37 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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+1 again.
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#434503 - 10/21/17 10:10 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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Oh man, I'm getting writer's cramp on this one. I just went back to review the whole thread, and while it seems like a little thing, I've given it perhaps more of my +1 votes than to any other request.
I hope it isn't hard to implement. My suggestions early on about some of the subtleties that would help shouldn't stop the basic 4/4 - 3/4 count-in issue. Let's start there.
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#435772 - 10/29/17 08:40 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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+1 on the count being based on bar 1.
not trying to hijack, but
i can't help but think that this is a child-problem of the parental problem of PG's implementation of meter specification in biab.
seems the ability to specify the actual meter of the song other than 4/4 (3/4,5/4, 11/8, etc) would provide this desired feature and a host of other ones also.
but i could be wrong.
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#436542 - 11/04/17 09:14 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views)
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We have asked for this, an expansion of chord that can be entered in a measure, and cut time for years. It should have been done by now.
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#439041 - 11/21/17 01:37 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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Maybe there's still time for 2018? 
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#440899 - 11/26/17 10:46 PM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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A 4+ YEAR WAIT SO FAR...
To have a very major program bug resolved.
Boy, I sure hope it's delivered in the next version.
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#441003 - 11/27/17 01:34 PM
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Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
BUMP !!!!
There has been absolute forum members agreement, not one objection, but nothing happened in about 3 years.
This is a really important issue. If the song starts in 3/4, please just provide a 3/4 count in. Just like every musician in the real world does.
(Instead of looking at the time-signature of the song to decide the count-in, just look at the time-signature of the first bar. C'mon team, not hard, surely?)
Please support this PGM. This is a Wishlist for Product Improvements, not a lucky-dip wishing well. There is a difference. Please support this pragmatic request. I also want to have 6/8 as an actual time signature and cut time. I'm want to make sure that the chord align with the song I'm playing.
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#441640 - 11/30/17 03:43 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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I didn't see this very missing feature in the latest version, but hopefully the team could finally include it in one of the 2018 patches.
I very much hope that we wouldn't have to wait another year to have this long standing serious problem resolved. Unless someone can convince me otherwise, it's not a missing feature, it's a major design fault in the program. Nothing less.
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#441721 - 11/30/17 11:15 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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+1. Since the 2018 edition notation supports alternate time signatures it would be nice if the automatic count-in matched the first time signature used in a song project.
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#441821 - 12/01/17 01:21 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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+1 again. I think that fixing program faults like this one, which has been reported for years, should be top priority for the development team.
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#499746 - 11/06/18 01:46 AM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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If a song has a mix of 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures, and needs to start in 3/4, it needs to use a 4/4 style and use F5 to set the first bar to 3/4. However, this means that the count-in will be in 4/4 when the song then actually starts in 3/4.
It seems to me that it would be a whole lot more practical if Band In A Box just produced the count-in using the same time-signature as the first bar of the song. If the first bar plays in 3/4, the count in should automatically be in 3/4. This would be a great improvement.
Hope others approve.
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A request to fix a genuine and very real operational bug in the program that frankly should still not be there. This particular bug fix request is only 5 years old now. The fault is not imaginary. This can't really be impossible to fix. Action available? 2019? Can we possibly hope? I am not agitating. Many feel strongly about this and don't want to and should not be let down for another year.
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#499783 - 11/06/18 06:20 AM
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+1 for sure!
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#499952 - 11/06/18 10:01 PM
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Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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The bearing in my mouse wheel just seized up scrolling all the way from the original 2013 post to the latest 2018 post ! In the pic it's using a 4/4 style with the first 4 bars set to 3 beats per bar but the count-in bars are on 4 beats per bar. Maybe as it's using that 4/4 style rather than starting with a 3/4 style it needs the 4/4 count-in bars ?? The only work around I can see is mute the count-in in prefs> count-in import a 3/4 count-in wav clip @ beat 3. if bar1_beats == 3 then mute_count = 1 and play_count34_clip = 1 else mute_count = 0 end  3-4 count-in for 2 bars 4-4 120bpm.WAV 1. Options > Preferences > Count-in/Met > Uncheck Play Lead In & Audible Lead In 2. File > Import > Import Audio > Ok > Yes stereo 3. Audio > Set Audio Master (Base) Tempo.. > 120 (this will adjust count-in to your current bpm).
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#499983 - 11/07/18 05:22 AM
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#500069 - 11/07/18 12:42 PM
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1. Options > Preferences > Count-in/Met > Uncheck Play Lead In & Audible Lead In
If we do that then not a single song will have a count in This way you manually load the count wav clip you want, but if I can do it manually there's no reason why BB can't do that automatically with some if thens, I can also create it in the piano roll. So there must be an easy fix for this ???
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#508461 - 12/10/18 05:50 PM
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Unfortunately, another basic feature still not implemented in 2019 (yet?).
It's hard to image a system where the song starts in 3/4 and the user receives a 4/4 count-in.
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#508503 - 12/10/18 11:11 PM
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+1, another obvious bug reported for years, still waiting to be fixed.
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#509189 - 12/13/18 09:57 AM
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Nobody here, as user, still understand why it is so difficult to implement !
Disappointement is growing...
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