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#208736 - 07/05/13 10:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar
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If a song has a mix of 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures, and needs to start in 3/4, it needs to use a 4/4 style and use F5 to set the first bar to 3/4. However, this means that the count-in will be in 4/4 when the song then actually starts in 3/4.

It seems to me that it would be a whole lot more practical if Band In A Box just produced the count-in using the same time-signature as the first bar of the song. If the first bar plays in 3/4, the count in should automatically be in 3/4. This would be a great improvement.

Hope others approve.

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#208738 - 07/05/13 10:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#208810 - 07/06/13 07:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#209219 - 07/10/13 03:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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I remember the first time, after learning that I must use a 4/4 style if I wanted to have both 4/4 and 3/4, setting the first bar to 3/4 and getting a 4/4 count-in. Whoa.
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#209264 - 07/11/13 02:11 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I remember the first time, after learning that I must use a 4/4 style if I wanted to have both 4/4 and 3/4, setting the first bar to 3/4 and getting a 4/4 count-in. Whoa.


Yes, totally agree Matt. Expecting a 3/4 count-in, but getting a 4 beat count-in and then immediately launching into a 3/4 song is very distracting. I got used to it but nevertheless there has to be a much nicer way.

Frankly, I don't think it would be incredibly difficult for the program to determine the time signature at the first bar and apply a count-in to suit. (2013.5 !!??)
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#209291 - 07/11/13 12:46 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#209732 - 07/17/13 05:32 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: MikeK]
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#209739 - 07/17/13 07:11 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thinking further upon this, I can make a case for BIAB looking at the first several bars to determine the count-off, if the number of beats per bar varies and that variation repeats. And you should be able to override the program's choice.

For Take Five, where you might write repeating measures of 3 beats then 2 beats, it would be nice to get a count-in of 3, 2.

For another example, let's say we are writing out Blue Rondo a la Turk as measures with beats as follows: 2, 2, 2, 3. You might want to reproduce all four measures as the count-in. Or, perhaps you would be comfortable with a 4/4 count-in because of the transition from the bridge.
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#209771 - 07/17/13 05:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Thinking further upon this, I can make a case for BIAB looking at the first several bars to determine the count-off, if the number of beats per bar varies and that variation repeats. And you should be able to override the program's choice.

For Take Five, where you might write repeating measures of 3 beats then 2 beats, it would be nice to get a count-in of 3, 2. (etc...)

Thanks Matt. Of course you are exactly correct, but I hope these additional technicalities don't get PG to put this in the too hard basket. I understand that the program works with limitations for songs containing bars with different time signatures, slicing off beats to get the correct value.

However, for these occassions, maybe a much easier way is to just provide an override option checkbox in the Song Settings dialog:



Any takers?


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#210097 - 07/22/13 04:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack

However, for these occassions, maybe a much easier way is to just provide an override option checkbox in the Song Settings dialog:



Any takers?




+1 anyone????
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#237585 - 01/28/14 01:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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A BIG +1

If I could expand on it why not make any number of beats available for a count-in? This would satisfy any time signature from 2/4 to 12/8 including 5/4 and such. This goes along with what Matt had said earlier.
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#237599 - 01/28/14 03:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Yes, +1 for override. I did mention that above.
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#237641 - 01/28/14 08:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Matt Finley]
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Thanks Guys for your endorsement. Yes, the mock-up is only a concept, and could definitely be improved on.

The key point is that the count-in could be tailored to suit each specific song, rather than relying on Global Settings. As mentioned, this would be great for songs in different time signatures (5/4 etc)

It might be something like:


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#342324 - 03/29/16 02:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar

BUMP !!!!
There has been absolute forum members agreement, not one objection, but nothing happened in about 3 years.

This is a really important issue. If the song starts in 3/4, please just provide a 3/4 count in. Just like every musician in the real world does.

(Instead of looking at the time-signature of the song to decide the count-in, just look at the time-signature of the first bar. C'mon team, not hard, surely?)

Please support this PGM. This is a Wishlist for Product Improvements, not a lucky-dip wishing well. There is a difference. Please support this pragmatic request.
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#342394 - 03/29/16 02:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 Agree for the second time. This needs to be done.
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#342996 - 04/02/16 12:00 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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This is a Wishlist for Product Improvements, not a lucky-dip wishing well.
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#345167 - 04/15/16 03:03 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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I wish Peter said 'Thanks' or 'Good Idea' or at least something to this one....
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#345847 - 04/18/16 09:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#346005 - 04/19/16 06:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Mike. R.]
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Thanks Mike

Yours, and others ongoing support for this fundamentally very reasonable request is appreciated <hint> wink
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#349623 - 05/13/16 08:21 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#349645 - 05/13/16 10:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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BIG +1 !!!!

This seems like such an obvious and relatively easy one to tackle!

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#349653 - 05/13/16 11:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Sure, I'll +1 this again.

I like the suggestions by VideoTrack for the additions to the Count-in dialog. And I agree, I don't want to make it so complicated that this becomes hard for PG Music to implement. Having said that, I think it needs to offer something like these checkbox options:

__ Count-in will be played
__ Specify numbers of measures for count-in (pulldown)
__ First bar has emphasis on every second beat only (multiple bars only)
__ Count-in uses beat pattern in this number of measures (pulldown)
__ Play count-in when spacebar pressed in measure one

Something along these lines, not that I've provided a complete list. Note: the forum software doesn't seem to allow me to indent. The second checkbox would be indented and grayed out if the first is unchecked etc.
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#349919 - 05/15/16 06:19 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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))))) BIG +1 !!!! This seems like such an obvious and relatively easy one to tackle!

Yes, I thought it would be relatively straightforward, but apparently it must have them stumped.

Sigh. Well, we can only wish.

I've been a musician for a very, very long time, but I still can't get used to hearing a 4 beat count-in for a song that starts as a Jazz Waltz. Seems odd to still be doing this in 2016, doesn't it?



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#349939 - 05/15/16 10:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#351440 - 05/26/16 03:44 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: Cerio]
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EDIT >> Please disregard this post. I tested the wrong thing.
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I just tested this with 2 different Waltzes in BIAB 2016 (build 127) and it appears to be fixed. Proper 3/4 count-in.

Trevor, can you confirm that this is still broken in the Windows version, or has it been fixed?


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#351514 - 05/27/16 02:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: zedd]
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Originally Posted By: zedd
I just tested this with 2 different Waltzes in BIAB 2016 (build 127) and it appears to be fixed. Proper 3/4 count-in.

Trevor, can you confirm that this is still broken in the Windows version, or has it been fixed?

Hi Zedd
Thanks for the request
The problem is that if a song has a mixture of 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures and starts in 3/4, a style with a 4/4 time signature must be chosen.

The first bar is set to play 3 beats. But the count in is in 4/4.

You can download this sample SGU I just created that demonstrates the problem.

The Count-in that is set from Preferences is Global, not local to a song.

Try this on your system. Download the song and play it. It starts with the first 4 bars as a 3/4 and on the second 4 bars it changes to 4/4. Listen to the count-in, then start playing. Whoa!

BiaB checks the style to determine the count-in to use. All BiaB has to do is check how many beats are in the first bar, and use that as the count-in. Easy? Well, that's what I thought. Apparently this must be quite difficult. 3+ years, stacks of support, not one disapproval, and we're still waiting...

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#351531 - 05/27/16 05:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: VideoTrack]
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The problem is that if a song has a mixture of 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures and starts in 3/4, a style with a 4/4 time signature must be chosen.

The first bar is set to play 3 beats. But the count in is in 4/4.

I'm so sorry to have troubled you with this. I wanted to +1 this thread, but thought I ought to try it out first to hear what's going on... but I forgot about testing something that had both 3/4 and 4/4 (which was the whole point).

Indeed it's not working, and could easily throw you off if recording or playing along. I wonder why this hasn't been addressed after all this time? It seems as though it should be such a simple thing to remedy.

+1 for fixing this.

Apologies again for my oversight. I read all the posts in this thread, and then proceeded to test the wrong thing like a nitwit.
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#351539 - 05/27/16 07:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: zedd]
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I'm so sorry to have troubled you with this. I wanted to +1 this thread, but thought I ought to try it out first to hear what's going on... but I forgot about testing something that had both 3/4 and 4/4 (which was the whole point).

Indeed it's not working, and could easily throw you off if recording or playing along. I wonder why this hasn't been addressed after all this time? It seems as though it should be such a simple thing to remedy.

Hey Zedd, no need to apologize at all.

Your post gave me a chance to create a sample of the issue that PG Music staff can now listen to and hear for themselves how problematic it is <hint>.
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#351609 - 05/27/16 04:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: VideoTrack]
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I'm still leaning to the idea also of making the count-in selectable on a song by song basis, rather than global (it's currently either Off always or On always). Some songs don't need a count-in.
Something like this would resolve:


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#353032 - 06/07/16 12:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (FIXED in Mac version) [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Something like this would resolve:

That is a very sensible solution Trevor. That ought to be fairly easy to implement, and seems like an essential addition.
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#353052 - 06/07/16 05:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: zedd]
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Originally Posted By: zedd

That is a very sensible solution Trevor. That ought to be fairly easy to implement, and seems like an essential addition.

Thanks to you for also lending your support Zedd. Yes, this can't be an impossible challenge, and it is only asking for what a real musician would expect in "real-world" conditions.

So, I'm going out on a limb here. Someone has to. Let's imagine you were in a band, and the band leader supplied a 4 beat count-in but expected you all to start playing 3 beats in the bar. No? I guess you can't imagine that. I certainly can't.

What would someone from PG Music play if they were in that band?

I'm going to keep pushing this, because what happens currently is just fundamentally wrong. This is not about improvement. It is about program "problem resolution" (note: I restrained myself from saying the "B" word, even if that's what it is.)

Imagine if Roland or Yamaha did this with their Arranger Keyboards. Imagine if a 3/4 song on their system started with a 4/4 count-in. No? You can't imagine that? Well, neither can I. If Roland or Yamaha did that you'd probably take it straight back to the shop. But that's exactly what BiaB currently delivers. Is that really musically OK? Think about it.

I have only ever tried to provide support, suggestions for improvement, and positive ideas to PG and his staff, and to offer ideas to better the product. My suggestions are supported not by 'just talk' but by demonstrated "real world examples". I can only hope that someone from PGM is listening. This is too important an issue to walk away from.

If you agree with rectification of product issues, then don't be afraid to lend your support, OK?

We all will benefit (PGM too...).

Trevor
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#353094 - 06/07/16 10:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1000 again.

Fixing obvious problems like this (please note that I also haven't pronounced the forbidden "B" word, in order to avoid offending a couple of pgm fanboys here) should be the first priority for PG Music.


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#356532 - 07/07/16 01:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: VideoTrack]
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#358057 - 07/21/16 09:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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I do it the other way. If the song starts in 3/4, I use a 3/4 style, then I select the measure where 4/4 starts and highlight the range of bars and use the set time signature for a range of measures. Then, I chose 4/4 and I'm good to go. I did this with a song where it had one bar in 2/4 and it worked. It took a little effort to for BIAB to figure out to make that one measure 2/4 but it worked.
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#358129 - 07/21/16 05:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Islansoul]
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Originally Posted By: Islansoul
I do it the other way. If the song starts in 3/4, I use a 3/4 style, then I select the measure where 4/4 starts and highlight the range of bars and use the set time signature for a range of measures. Then, I chose 4/4 and I'm good to go. I did this with a song where it had one bar in 2/4 and it worked. It took a little effort to for BIAB to figure out to make that one measure 2/4 but it worked.


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"then I select the measure where 4/4 starts and highlight the range of bars and use the set time signature for a range of measures. Then, I chose 4/4 and I'm good to go"


So I interpret that you are saying that by choosing 4/4 you make a 3/4 style play 4 beats to the bar?

How do you do that? What steps do you use? In my version of BiaB (2016), if you tell a 3/4 style to play 4 beats it plays 3 beats. You can only lose one, not add one.

OK, reading and analyzing further, I'm presuming that you use 2 bars of 2/4 to make something that 'sounds' like one bar of 4/4. If that's the case, then how does the score look? It won't read correctly like one bar of 4/4.

And in any case, I think you've respectfully missed the complete point of these posts. To recap, change your song that has the 3/4 style to start (the first bar) with 2 beats (or 4 beats), then listen to the count-in. I suspect that you'll get 3 beats.

BiaB always plays the count-in based on the selected style, not the number of beats in the first bar. It's a long-term major design issue. I'm really hopeful that it's being resolved. (3,100+ views to date...)

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#373333 - 11/06/16 11:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: PeterGannon]
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Good points.

Bump for 2017...
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#373349 - 11/06/16 12:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 again.

Still on the "get around to it" and "to do" list for 2017.
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#373391 - 11/06/16 06:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: Jim Fogle]
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#430569 - 09/21/17 12:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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This overdue request needs resurrecting, just in case the 2018 team aren't sure what needs to be included grin
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#431223 - 09/26/17 12:34 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#434381 - 10/20/17 10:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Just making sure the great development team see how many views and how much support there has been for this missing feature grin
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#434442 - 10/20/17 09:31 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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#434472 - 10/21/17 06:37 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Matt Finley]
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#434503 - 10/21/17 10:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Oh man, I'm getting writer's cramp on this one. I just went back to review the whole thread, and while it seems like a little thing, I've given it perhaps more of my +1 votes than to any other request.

I hope it isn't hard to implement. My suggestions early on about some of the subtleties that would help shouldn't stop the basic 4/4 - 3/4 count-in issue. Let's start there.
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#435772 - 10/29/17 08:40 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 on the count being based on bar 1.

not trying to hijack, but
i can't help but think that this is a child-problem of the parental problem of PG's implementation of meter specification in biab.

seems the ability to specify the actual meter of the song other than 4/4 (3/4,5/4, 11/8, etc) would provide this desired feature and a host of other ones also.



but i could be wrong.
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#436542 - 11/04/17 09:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (2600+ views) [Re: PeterGannon]
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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
Good points.


We have asked for this, an expansion of chord that can be entered in a measure, and cut time for years. It should have been done by now.
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#439041 - 11/21/17 01:37 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Maybe there's still time for 2018? cry
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#440899 - 11/26/17 10:46 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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A 4+ YEAR WAIT SO FAR...

To have a very major program bug resolved.

Boy, I sure hope it's delivered in the next version.


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#441003 - 11/27/17 01:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar

BUMP !!!!
There has been absolute forum members agreement, not one objection, but nothing happened in about 3 years.

This is a really important issue. If the song starts in 3/4, please just provide a 3/4 count in. Just like every musician in the real world does.

(Instead of looking at the time-signature of the song to decide the count-in, just look at the time-signature of the first bar. C'mon team, not hard, surely?)

Please support this PGM. This is a Wishlist for Product Improvements, not a lucky-dip wishing well. There is a difference. Please support this pragmatic request.


I also want to have 6/8 as an actual time signature and cut time. I'm want to make sure that the chord align with the song I'm playing.
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#441640 - 11/30/17 03:43 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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I didn't see this very missing feature in the latest version, but hopefully the team could finally include it in one of the 2018 patches.

I very much hope that we wouldn't have to wait another year to have this long standing serious problem resolved. Unless someone can convince me otherwise, it's not a missing feature, it's a major design fault in the program. Nothing less.
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#441721 - 11/30/17 11:15 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1. Since the 2018 edition notation supports alternate time signatures it would be nice if the automatic count-in matched the first time signature used in a song project.
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#441821 - 12/01/17 01:21 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 again. I think that fixing program faults like this one, which has been reported for years, should be top priority for the development team.

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#499746 - 11/06/18 01:46 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
If a song has a mix of 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures, and needs to start in 3/4, it needs to use a 4/4 style and use F5 to set the first bar to 3/4. However, this means that the count-in will be in 4/4 when the song then actually starts in 3/4.

It seems to me that it would be a whole lot more practical if Band In A Box just produced the count-in using the same time-signature as the first bar of the song. If the first bar plays in 3/4, the count in should automatically be in 3/4. This would be a great improvement.

Hope others approve.

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A request to fix a genuine and very real operational bug in the program that frankly should still not be there.

This particular bug fix request is only 5 years old now. The fault is not imaginary. This can't really be impossible to fix. Action available? 2019? Can we possibly hope?

I am not agitating. Many feel strongly about this and don't want to and should not be let down for another year.


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#499952 - 11/06/18 10:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: jford]
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The bearing in my mouse wheel just seized up scrolling all the way from the original 2013 post to the latest 2018 post !

In the pic it's using a 4/4 style with the first 4 bars set to 3 beats per bar but the count-in bars are on 4 beats per bar.
Maybe as it's using that 4/4 style rather than starting with a 3/4 style it needs the 4/4 count-in bars ??
The only work around I can see is mute the count-in in prefs> count-in import a 3/4 count-in wav clip @ beat 3.

if bar1_beats == 3 then mute_count = 1 and play_count34_clip = 1
else mute_count = 0 end smile

3-4 count-in for 2 bars 4-4 120bpm.WAV

1. Options > Preferences > Count-in/Met > Uncheck Play Lead In & Audible Lead In
2. File > Import > Import Audio > Ok > Yes stereo
3. Audio > Set Audio Master (Base) Tempo.. > 120 (this will adjust count-in to your current bpm).


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#499983 - 11/07/18 05:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar [Re: Pipeline]
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The bearing in my mouse wheel just seized up scrolling all the way from the original 2013 post to the latest 2018 post !

Still laughing, at least you brought some humor to this tragic situation.


Originally Posted By: Pipeline
1. Options > Preferences > Count-in/Met > Uncheck Play Lead In & Audible Lead In

If we do that then not a single song will have a count in. The Count-in is a global setting. cry cry cry cry cry
That's my other aging but very genuine Wish List item cry cry cry cry cry
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1. Options > Preferences > Count-in/Met > Uncheck Play Lead In & Audible Lead In

Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
If we do that then not a single song will have a count in


This way you manually load the count wav clip you want, but if I can do it manually there's no reason why BB can't do that automatically with some if thens, I can also create it in the piano roll.
So there must be an easy fix for this ???


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The Band-in-a-Box® SongPicker Feature

If you have a folder of songs that you'd always like easy access to within Band-in-a-Box, make sure you familiarize yourself with The SongPicker feature, which access the folder that you choose and lock it to!

Access the SongPicker by clicking on the [Song] button next to the title of the song within the main screen of Band-in-a-Box. The first time the SongPicker is opened, you can choose the folder to use to create the list by selecting [Change] and navigating to your preferred directory. Once chosen, select [OK - Make Song List], and Band-in-a-Box does the rest... the next time you click on [Song], you'll be taken directly to your preferred folder!

Learn even more about this feature within Chapter 5 of our Online Manual, here.

Just Launched - The FAQ and Knowledge Base Forum!

If you have a question (or questions!) about Band-in-a-Box®, PowerTracks, RealBand®, or any other PG Music Inc. product - whether it be technical support or pre-sales, there's now an easy one-stop spot to find the answer - our FAQ and Knowledge Base Forum!

Don't want to read through the 600+ posts? Use the Search FAQ option, and you can choose your key search terms to locate the topic and answer you're looking for!

Common pre-sales questions about our products, ordering, and delivery:
Pre-Sales

Technical support & troubleshooting by product:
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows
Band-in-a-Box® for Mac
RealBand® for Windows
PowerTracks Pro® Audio for Windows
Other Products

There's even a Request New FAQs forum, if you didn't see your question answered anywhere!

Over 190 Saxophone RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!

Today's the day we say "Happy Birthday" to Adolphe Sax, the creator of the Saxophone!
(Adolphe was born November 6, 1814 - 32 years later he patended his saxophone creation!)

We have more than 190 Saxophone RealTracks available for Band-in-a-Box with the following RealTracks Sets - review the complete list here.

Check our our Saxophonist programs for Windows:
The Jazz Saxophonist
The Rock Saxophonist

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