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#292942 - 04/26/15 02:41 AM [User Showcase] She'll Never Know (VIDEO)
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Hi everyone.

Those of you who've been on the forum for some years may have heard a version of this song before, but this is the video edit. We filmed the video in Scarborough, which is a seaside town near where we live and it features all the girls who used to sing for us before they left for university last year. Ellie features in the video and Jessie provides the other lead vocal to mine. Courtney did most of the BVs. We had a lot of fun filming with Ellie over the Easter recess and I hope you all like the result. All the recording, mixing and mastering was done in Realband and Powertracks. Video editing was with Serif Movie Plus X6.

SHE'LL NEVER KNOW
It's funny how the way it is
You only hurt the one you love
And when she's gone you always find
You only want what you can't have.
And when she says "Can we still be friends
And not react like lovers do?"
And though the answer's always "Yes"
She'll never know what that does to you.

She say's it's good to end this way
And so you smile and carry on
You play a part as on the stage
And try to act like nothing's wrong
But if by chance you see her face
Across the street in some crowded place
You turn and run like cowards do
She'll never know what that does to you.

It's just your turn to take the fall
You know you could have had it all
But some you win and some you lose
And she'll never know what that does to you.

Many thanks to all who have time to listen.

ROG.

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#292944 - 04/26/15 02:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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ROG,

That makes Scarborough look really nice, never seen it dry!! But then only been there once or twice. The beach looks a bit like Tenby, but without the rock, I don't remember it like that.

Anyway
All is up to your normal high standards.
Pity we could'nt see you, I assume, playing the solo.

A good retro '80's feel, well mixed etc as usual

A good video, nice tune.

Thoroughly enjoyed

Alyn
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#292946 - 04/26/15 03:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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ROG
Thoroughly enjoyed the remix, and the use if vision to add a further dimension.

Great job (again).

Trev
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#292950 - 04/26/15 04:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Hi ROG,

I recall aspects of this song from before but I don't remember it sounding so brilliant. With the addition of video, this is a production showpiece. What you and your crew have put together is exceptionally good.

The ending credits were a great touch!

Terrific work!
Noel
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#292952 - 04/26/15 05:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Excellent video and excellent music = A 'reunion' video.
That was surely a lot of fun for all involved. It was fun to see and hear for us viewers. Good job.

I've heard you mention before you've had years of experience with Power Tracks and notice you still use PT for some elements of your recording process. What do you prefer PT over RB to do and does PT still have capabilities that RB can't do? Just curious. I'm using RB much more recently than I have in the past and like it as a DAW.

Charlie
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#292970 - 04/26/15 11:25 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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ROG (and gang)...

Super job on this! The video is delightful - well done.

I really like this song. The vocals are super.. the instrumentation is terrific - everything (guitars, organ, horns) all blended so very well. Excellent mix.

Really enjoyed listening (several times)

floyd
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#292979 - 04/26/15 02:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Really enjoyed the song and video Rog, great production throughout, with something to hold your attention for length of song.

Great guitar playing too.

Musiclover


Edited by musiclover (04/26/15 02:13 PM)
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#293118 - 04/27/15 01:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Very cool!! Interesting mix of styles. Video is fun. Mix sounded great (maybe a bit light on bass). BG vocals are amazing-I don't know anyone on the forum who nails them any better. This was a treat all around!! Take care. Greg

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#293127 - 04/27/15 01:48 PM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Hi ROG,

This is an original song, especially the arrangement. Very nice guitar. Well done.
It's fun to see the story being played by your actors.

Rob and Anne-Marie
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#293156 - 04/27/15 07:11 PM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi ROG,

... With the addition of video, this is a production showpiece. What you and your crew have put together is exceptionally good.

The ending credits were a great touch!

Terrific work!
Noel
Plus one! Intriguing arrangement as well!

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#293171 - 04/28/15 02:06 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Real retro eighties feel.
Good production and well constructed.
Liked the light and shade especial with powerful
guitar work.
Good work.
Rob.


Edited by Rob4580 (04/28/15 02:07 AM)

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#293195 - 04/28/15 06:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Top notch, pro, and all the other superlatives!

The song is so strong to begin with and the
video works really well -- meaning it augments
the audio and never distracting.

We realize that a lot of thought and work went
into this and, wow, did it ever pay off.

Congrats on a fine production and one that'll
we'll pass on to friends.

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#293202 - 04/28/15 08:05 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Hi ROG
I don't recall if I had heard this one or not but I do like it. The contrast between you voice and Courtney's is super. The video is very well done (I am sure you have done this before!).
Great stuff

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#293220 - 04/28/15 10:22 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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ROG, I enjoyed the video as well as the very well produced song. The mix is great. Nice job! Tom

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#293552 - 04/30/15 05:28 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: gibson]
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Originally Posted By: gibson
ROG,

That makes Scarborough look really nice, never seen it dry!! But then only been there once or twice. The beach looks a bit like Tenby, but without the rock, I don't remember it like that.

Anyway
All is up to your normal high standards.
Pity we could'nt see you, I assume, playing the solo.

A good retro '80's feel, well mixed etc as usual

A good video, nice tune.

Thoroughly enjoyed

Alyn


Hi Alyn.

The sun always shines on Scarborough - you should try it again sometime. I'll even take you surfing if you bring your board!

Many thanks for the nice review. Yes it's me on guitar - Reis can't actually play a note, be he's more handsome. An 80s feel? Well, yes I'll admit to that.

Cheers my old pal. ROG

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#293553 - 04/30/15 05:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
ROG
Thoroughly enjoyed the remix, and the use if vision to add a further dimension.

Great job (again).

Trev



Trevor.

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words.

ROG

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#293555 - 04/30/15 05:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi ROG,

I recall aspects of this song from before but I don't remember it sounding so brilliant. With the addition of video, this is a production showpiece. What you and your crew have put together is exceptionally good.

The ending credits were a great touch!

Terrific work!
Noel

Noel.

Always appreciate your views and many thanks for the positive review.

ROG

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#293558 - 04/30/15 05:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: c_fogle
Excellent video and excellent music = A 'reunion' video.
That was surely a lot of fun for all involved. It was fun to see and hear for us viewers. Good job.

I've heard you mention before you've had years of experience with Power Tracks and notice you still use PT for some elements of your recording process. What do you prefer PT over RB to do and does PT still have capabilities that RB can't do? Just curious. I'm using RB much more recently than I have in the past and like it as a DAW.

Charlie

Hi Charlie.

Yes, we certainly enjoyed our day "on location".

What do I prefer about PT over RB? It boots faster! It may seem like a small thing, but in the course of a working day I might boot the program ten times. PT will boot in about 5 seconds, whilst RB takes much longer to load the extra features. With the PT upgrade being so inexpensive, it's worth having both. I even still have a copy of PT2013 running as well, for when the track count gets high - there's more screen space on the old version and even with my 47" monitor you can never have too much space!

Apart from that, there's absolutely no advantage in PT over RB. I always start in PT but switch to RB to add any RTs. If I could only have one, it would have to be RB. Hope that helps.

Regards, ROG

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#293578 - 04/30/15 07:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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HI ROG. Thanks for your reply. I also appreciate the benefits of small things so I can relate. If friends comes over to jam for a while and I want to record it, I'll fire up my Tascam DP-24 and have it wired up and ready to record before they can tune up. It can record in the same manner of an analog cassette deck and ready in seconds. It's much faster than opening up a laptop, opening up a DAW, getting the interface going and arming/setting tracks.

Because it is inexpensive and has been around for quite some time, I keep looking at PT but the boot up speed advantage would not benefit me as it does for you.
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#293597 - 04/30/15 09:27 AM [User Showcase] Re: She'll Never Know (VIDEO) [Re: ROG]
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Hi Rog!

I'll echo many of the comments that have been made already... especially the ones about the originality of the arrangement. Your songs (to my ear anyway) tend to be highly original, almost purposefully different from whatever cookie cutter style happens to be the moment's rage.

Loved the guitar solo in all it's glorious reverb! And especially given the originality of the arrangement, it made for a guitar solo that could never be cut and pasted onto another song , as is the case with so many generic solos. That solo was definitely composed for that song only!

The whole production struck me as being somewhat of an homage to your students, almost a graduation gift. Nice the way everybody had a spot that allows them to shine.

I identify with the lyrics, as I'm sure most people would. Who hasn't wanted what he/she can't have? Who hasn't settled for friendship when a more durable relationship was preferred? The ability to identify and develop universal themes is one of your strong points IMO.

I really liked the video... I thought it was very well done. Lots of subtle pro touches that wouldn't happen on an amateur's video. But In my opinion it doesn't storyboard well. A storyboard retells the tale in graphical scenes that represent the points being made in the story. If you removed the song from the video, there's no way in the world I would watch that video and come away with an interpretation anything like the song. But that's just my personal preference about the relationship between a song and its video. Viewed as its own work of art, without putting my own opinionated constraints on it, it is very beautiful and artfully rendered.

I always enjoy your songs Rog... I think you are one of the most creative song writers on the forum, and your ideas always pique my fascination... whether in terms of lyrics, arrangements, cartoon sax players, guitar solos.. it's all awesome when it comes from you! Thanks for adding your magic to the forum!

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