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#343189 - 04/03/16 08:04 PM [User Showcase] No Body's Stopping Me
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This is all BB mixed down in separate tracks in cubase. Thank you for a great product that allows me to focus on the creative side and the music

https://www.reverbnation.com/paulbright/song/25656822-nobodys-stopping-me-2016

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#343190 - 04/03/16 08:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Very impressive Paul

You have demonstrated ways to take the program in anther direction again.

Great mix BTW.
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#343191 - 04/03/16 08:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thank you my friend... been spending the last two years learning about frequencies and mixing. now I can bring bb into the mix and create whatever is in my mind, and hopefully make it sound good smile


Edited by Paul bright (04/03/16 09:00 PM)

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#343260 - 04/04/16 08:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Hi Paul,

great song. Convincing vocals.
Enjoyable listen.
I'd like to know what RTs you used.

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#343265 - 04/04/16 08:55 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Paul,

This is awesome! You've taken BIAB into areas I've never heard before. As I listened, I sat here thinking "This is incredible" over and over. It sounds like you've performed some very skillful Realtrack surgery to accomplish what you've done.

The musical energy you generate with this creation radiates every which way.

I really enjoyed it.
Noel

P.S. Your vocals are outstanding!

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#343271 - 04/04/16 09:15 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Indeed Paul, when your tune is launched, difficult to stop it !
A powerful and colorful piece with uncommon sounds however pulled from BiaB. Solid vocal too !
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#343289 - 04/04/16 12:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: boehm]
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The song is based off _ELDISCO.STY with separate parts added. Drum

Guitar 1: 1400: Guitar Electric, Rythem Soul70BrightSteady Ev16 100
Guitar 2: 2634: Guitar Eletric, Rythem CountryBluesRock ev 110
Bass: 2299: Bass Synth DanceRoickBuzzBassQuarter Ev 120
Piano: 1576: piano, Acoustic Rhtm Soul60sHeld 110
Organ: 671: Organ B3 background Sourthern Ev 120

guitar solo: 1720 Guitar Soloist TexasBluesRockStraightBrent Ev120.. (heavily chopped up and edited to fit)


Hope that helps.

There is a lot of plugin processing happening in the cubase side. Fabfilters Q2 is being used to carve out the instrument frequencies, VSS plugin is used for instrument placement in the room.
Slate is used for compresson and vocal recording (there vms mike system), Waves is used for console emulation. If anyone wants to see the cubase project of the bb tracks more then happy to show my work flow. BB is product you can achieve great things with. My prefered mixing daw is cubase and bb works very well in that work flow.

The only grip I have with BB is it should allow for the drum tracks to be split out to separate audio files..
kick.wav snare.wav etc...

Then I could do real eqing on the drums like a real sound engineer smile

Please add that feature in a future update.. that would be icing on my cake...


Edited by Paul bright (04/04/16 12:09 PM)

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#343292 - 04/04/16 12:41 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Hello Paul,

Great energy on this one.
Almost doesn't sound like BiaB.
Very well done, very professional.

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#343315 - 04/04/16 03:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Paul,

As Trevor said... very impressive. Excellent use of varying pieces of BIAB.

GREAT vocals! And a nice pop/rock write. Cool song.

Nice job of editing the solo guitar to work with the style. That must have taken some time...

This is top notch stuff.

I did have a feeling that there was "bottom" missing - no low end to compliment the really crisp top end. Not to take away from how very good this is...

Hope we will see more of you in the future..

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#343332 - 04/04/16 04:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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One word Paul; Wow ! This was some of the absolute best I have heard from a BB user. Now I really get what proper mixing does to the final result... Thanks also for sharing the RT you used... Have been working on some Hip-Hop stuff, and heard something there I will check out...

"If anyone wants to see the cubase project of the bb tracks more then happy to show my work flow." Yess please ! Not that I have Cubase, but just to have any Idea how this quality is acquired would be awesome..

Your voice is also awesome Paul.
I side with Floyd; "This is top notch stuff."
You inspired me today !
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#343352 - 04/04/16 05:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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This is really great Paul. A really original sound and mix.
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#343378 - 04/04/16 07:58 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Trygve Larsen]
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Ok this is my work flow in cubase for BB tracks..

https://youtu.be/SkH1gIIWPdE

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#343429 - 04/05/16 04:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Yup... very nice work. I have to agree that this is one of the more creative uses of BB I have heard in a very long time.

For a second I was wondering what RB drum track you used... then I realized it was something other than RB drums. Loved that bass line off the beat. What a cool feel to the song.

I could hear Donna Summer singing this.... cool retro groove tune.

I also would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see PG make the drum tracks as individual tracks for us DAW mixers and engineers when we render a real drum style. Have two options... the entire kit as we have it now, and of course, individual tracks for those of us who love to tinker. I can't count the times I wanted to bring up the kick and EQ the snare..... and had to settle for something less.... or try to incorporate some midi in to try to fix the issue.

I second Floyd's sentiments about the bottom end.... not enough thump and not enough low end bass. Especially for the style.

Nice work.


Edited by Guitarhacker (04/05/16 04:53 AM)
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#343443 - 04/05/16 06:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Guitarhacker]
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The good thing about mixing it yourself, when there is a perceived problem you can go in there an try fix it. Now that I've had sometime away from the song.. will re-bring into cubase and listen specifically to bottom end. Very rarely do I get the mix right completely in the first sitting. So I guess its time to circle back around and tweak.....

But PlEASE give me the added flexibility to drop individual tracks for the DRUM instruments, kick, snare, cymbal, hihat, toms etc.... That would be a sound engineers dream.... smile


Edited by Paul bright (04/05/16 06:55 AM)

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#343451 - 04/05/16 07:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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"The only grip I have with BB is it should allow for the drum tracks to be split out to separate audio files..
kick.wav snare.wav etc..."

In the BiaB file structure there are audio files of each drum RD and at the end of the audio file there are examples of each sound used by the RD drummer. You can use these to double the RD track or you can volume shape the sound out of the RD track and have only the selected sound, e.g., snare on it's own track for whatever effects you choose. I often double the snare.

Back to the song. Dunno if you use mastering software but with Ozone it is very easy to, e.g., add clean bottom end to the production w/o revisiting the mix...unless the mix is bad which yours is clearly not...at all.

Pardon the ramble we REALLY enjoyed the spin!

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#343459 - 04/05/16 08:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Hey Paul,

This is some exciting music! I love the driving EDM style beat, which would be a perfect fit on any dance floor! Your song is an interesting hybrid, with elements of disco (The highly quantized drum beat) , EDM (the machine gun drum rolls) unknown genre (the cheeky self-affirming lyrics) and 80s rock (the guitar decorations)

I'm curious to know how you would label this song in terms of genre.

Your vocals are not only well-sung, but they're mixed well too! You must have a pretty good range, because the melody is on the high side for a male, and I didn't hear any strain in your voice.. you just glided through the notes with apparent ease!

I really liked the way you used backing vocals as a fill instrument
I also like the fuzzy synth that hits on the 2 and 4... it fills a sonic range that nothing else is using on that beat

EXCELLENT listen! I love this kind of music! Hope to hear more from you!

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#343483 - 04/05/16 10:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Pat Marr]
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One of the big problems I have you nailed right on the head. I have no clue what this style is. That kind of goes with every song I write. I hear it in my head, and hopefully my skills are getting better so that what is in my head actually is heard by my ears when I'm done.

Take a poll here.. Create a new style name for my kind of music..lol Don't even get me started who my audience would be...lol

Bottom line I love making music. It just amazes me that a voice in your head can take you from nothing to a product that you can be proud of.

Style: BrightIndie Lol

I guess my range is ok... the song fits my vocal I think...whatever that style is. I write music to what my voice can do.. right now still learning what that is smile


Edited by Paul bright (04/05/16 10:59 AM)

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#343484 - 04/05/16 11:00 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Whatever this style turns out to be.. I think I'm going to attempt to write more in its fashion...

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#343491 - 04/05/16 11:16 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Paul bright]
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Wow very cool. Excellent vocal.
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#343493 - 04/05/16 11:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Body's Stopping Me [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
"The only grip I have with BB is it should allow for the drum tracks to be split out to separate audio files..
kick.wav snare.wav etc..."

In the BiaB file structure there are audio files of each drum RD and at the end of the audio file there are examples of each sound used by the RD drummer. You can use these to double the RD track or you can volume shape the sound out of the RD track and have only the selected sound, e.g., snare on it's own track for whatever effects you choose. I often double the snare.

Back to the song. Dunno if you use mastering software but with Ozone it is very easy to, e.g., add clean bottom end to the production w/o revisiting the mix...unless the mix is bad which yours is clearly not...at all.

Pardon the ramble we REALLY enjoyed the spin!

J&B


For me its more of being able to carve the different drum instruments frequencies into the mix and use proper eq. Its hard to do that on a single drum track. In my mixing I want to have the ability to hit individual drum instruments.. kick, snare hihat.. etc. and eq them properly by themselves. That is standard mix down practice. Most of time I hear what bb does with the drum, but I throw it away and use one of my plugins to simulate what I heard so that I can split the drum parts into separate tracks and do what do with them. The option to generate separate wav drum tracks (kick, snare etc) just would be an awesome update to BB at some point.

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