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#417637 - 06/13/17 07:29 AM
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Just a Touch (instrumental)
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This is an old instrumental of mine, I decided to redo it with realtracks (original version was midi). Just a Touch BIAB tracks used: RealTracks in song: ~1847:Bass, Electric, CountryBoogieArp Sw 140 RealTracks in song: 2728:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm BluesShuffleMike Sw 130 RealDrums in song: NashvilleShuffle^01-a:Sidestick, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride The guitar is from the original, I tried to re-record it but couldn't get the same feel I did before. Back then I was using a POD XT for recording, and I played a strat. Still tweaking the mix a little, any comments on that appreciated  Update: Just uploaded a new mix, made some changes to the piano (thanks Floyd!) https://soundcloud.com/blue-attitude/just-a-touch-instrumental
Edited by BlueAttitude (06/16/17 02:51 AM)
Edit Reason: added soundcloud link
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#417647 - 06/13/17 09:15 AM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: BlueAttitude]
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Very cool track. Love the harmonies between the guitars. You might find my playing along with your track :-).
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#417673 - 06/13/17 12:11 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: BlueAttitude]
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Dave,
Your guitar work on this is OUTSTANDING! Gorgeous! Beautiful! Saaaawwweeeeet!
Some of the best on this forum - and there has been a lot of good stuff.
That clean tone is the "too die for" kind...
Your playing is fluid and musical. It sings. It is never overstated. EXTRAORDINARY.
The bass and drums are equally supportive - both sound great.
--------- separating this part ------------
Lots of personal opinion here on the piano... I find it distracting - not supportive - "gettting in the way" of a STELLAR guitar performance. For a number of reasons...
- it's too busy. It is doing nice "shuffle things", no doubt, but it is conflicting with the guitar in a lot of places, and therefore... "getting in the way". It needs to quiet down some - some simple held chords underneath the guitar. And be a little lower in volume...
- being panned to one side - at least the way it is coming across on my speakers - is dragging my ear to it. I believe (personal opinion) that a piano should be mixed to "spread across the stero field". It doesn't have to be centered (through I typically center pianos), but it should not fall all to one side.
- there is a "bass-y, dark, dry" sound to the piano that doesn't seem to fit the rest of the mix. Rolling off the lows (or some mids) or adding some reverb might change that (can only be determined in the context of the mix). OR... try using the MIDI Supertrack version (2843:Piano, Rhythm BluesShuffleMike Sw 130) to get more control over the piano sound - by using a vsti of you choice.
That is a lot of "negative opinions" of one VERY SMALL aspect of...
a truly EXPECTIONAL recording. Not to detracted from that performance at all (I hope). 'Cause I really, REALLY like this!!!
fj
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#417674 - 06/13/17 12:16 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: Scott C]
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Very cool track. Love the harmonies between the guitars. You might find my playing along with your track :-).
Hey, we should do a jam sometime! I like your playing style.
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#417675 - 06/13/17 12:20 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: BlueAttitude]
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Very nice
beautiful guitars
akin to In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed, Allman Bros. to my ear
still it sounds original and inspired
I think stereo panning that piano might be an improvement
to what it brings to this
Great playing, great recording
Kenny
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#417676 - 06/13/17 12:22 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
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Dave,
Your guitar work on this is OUTSTANDING! Gorgeous! Beautiful! Saaaawwweeeeet!
Some of the best on this forum - and there has been a lot of good stuff.
That clean tone is the "too die for" kind...
Your playing is fluid and musical. It sings. It is never overstated. EXTRAORDINARY.
The bass and drums are equally supportive - both sound great.
--------- separating this part ------------
Lots of personal opinion here on the piano... I find it distracting - not supportive - "gettting in the way" of a STELLAR guitar performance. For a number of reasons...
- it's too busy. It is doing nice "shuffle things", no doubt, but it is conflicting with the guitar in a lot of places, and therefore... "getting in the way". It needs to quiet down some - some simple held chords underneath the guitar. And be a little lower in volume...
- being panned to one side - at least the way it is coming across on my speakers - is dragging my ear to it. I believe (personal opinion) that a piano should be mixed to "spread across the stero field". It doesn't have to be centered (through I typically center pianos), but it should not fall all to one side.
- there is a "bass-y, dark, dry" sound to the piano that doesn't seem to fit the rest of the mix. Rolling off the lows (or some mids) or adding some reverb might change that (can only be determined in the context of the mix). OR... try using the MIDI Supertrack version (2843:Piano, Rhythm BluesShuffleMike Sw 130) to get more control over the piano sound - by using a vsti of you choice.
That is a lot of "negative opinions" of one VERY SMALL aspect of...
a truly EXPECTIONAL recording. Not to detracted from that performance at all (I hope). 'Cause I really, REALLY like this!!!
fj Floyd, man!!!!!! You leave the best comments, I've learned a lot from your constructive criticism over the last couple of years I'll see what I can do to fix the piano, might take an hour or two. Thanks again for all your help and support UPDATE: Fixed the piano, panned it center and selected the "simple" option in the realtracks dialogue which made it much less busy. I know nothing about midi supertracks, will need to learn about those soon!
Edited by BlueAttitude (06/14/17 03:15 AM)
Edit Reason: added update on fixing the piano
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#417682 - 06/13/17 12:45 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: BlueAttitude]
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Great track! Great tone! Great playing! Just a total enjoyable experience to listen to this!! Take care. Greg
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#417701 - 06/13/17 04:17 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: BlueAttitude]
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Dave,
That is some great guitar! Love the choice of backing tracks as well.
Bob
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#417752 - 06/14/17 03:23 AM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
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Very nice
beautiful guitars
akin to In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed, Allman Bros. to my ear
still it sounds original and inspired
I think stereo panning that piano might be an improvement
to what it brings to this
Great playing, great recording
Kenny "In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed", man, what a great song! That was a Dickie Betts composition I think. If I could write an instrumental half that good I would be a happy man! I used to listen to that Live at the Fillmore album all the time back in the day, the interplay between Dickie Betts and Duane Allman, especially the harmony lines they did .... magnificent! Thanks for the kind words Kenny, I appreciate it!
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#417813 - 06/14/17 12:26 PM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
[Re: BlueAttitude]
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hi dave nice guitar chops perfect tone on this great listen thanks eric
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#417911 - 06/15/17 09:12 AM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
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Great track! Great tone! Great playing! Just a total enjoyable experience to listen to this!! Take care. Greg Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment, Greg! I'm happy you enjoyed it
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#417926 - 06/15/17 10:53 AM
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Re: Just a Touch (instrumental)
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Dave, I love the twin guitars. It has a nice melody that serves as the backbone of the song. I like when you veer off to solo. Great playing! The piano sounds much better centered. The real track and the super midi pianos seem to be recorded in stereo, so splitting the left hand and the right hand is easily accomplished with a big stereo spread. Nicely arranged and mixed. I like it! Tom
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#417945 - 06/15/17 12:14 PM
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Love this track, twin guitars are superb, shows great musicianship. Nice one
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#417974 - 06/15/17 02:38 PM
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Excellent tracks and super guitar playing.
Sergio
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#418005 - 06/15/17 08:24 PM
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Hi Dave,
totally loved it! We didn't hear it before you made a few changes, but it sure sounds terrific now! You're one of the few guitarists I've heard who know how to use a deep reverb correctly. And the twinning on the guitars was simply fabulous!
Loved this a bunch! great stuff. Best to you,
Alan
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#418028 - 06/16/17 04:40 AM
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Exceptional on every level. Could listen for hours. Great playing and recording...
Loved it from start to finish.
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#418168 - 06/17/17 03:40 AM
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Dave,
That is some great guitar! Love the choice of backing tracks as well.
Bob Thanks Bob!
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#418169 - 06/17/17 03:41 AM
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hi dave nice guitar chops perfect tone on this great listen thanks eric Thanks, Eric!
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#418281 - 06/18/17 02:28 AM
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Dave, I love the twin guitars. It has a nice melody that serves as the backbone of the song. I like when you veer off to solo. Great playing! The piano sounds much better centered. The real track and the super midi pianos seem to be recorded in stereo, so splitting the left hand and the right hand is easily accomplished with a big stereo spread. Nicely arranged and mixed. I like it! Tom Thanks very much Tom, always nice to receive positive comments from you!
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#418282 - 06/18/17 02:29 AM
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Love this track, twin guitars are superb, shows great musicianship. Nice one Thanks, Graham!
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