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#461558 - 03/11/18 01:31 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB
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The below information is based on the Windows edition of Band In A Box 2018 (BIAB).

What is presented is the most fundamental of BIAB audio and midi set-ups.

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Firstly...

Have a look at IMAGE 1 below.

1. Click on Audio (#1 on IMAGE 1).

2. Select "Audio | Audio Driver/Settings" (#2).

3. Click on the dropdown menu (#3) and set the Audio driver to MME if it is currently set to WAS or ASIO.


Secondly...

Have a look at IMAGE 2 below.

1. Select "Options | Preferences" and then select the MIDI driver button (#1 on IMAGE 2).

2. Set #2, #3, #4, #5 exactly as shown on IMAGE 2.

3. Click on button #6. This will open a new dialogue window (IMAGE 3 below).

4. Click on "Default Synth" button (#1 on IMAGE 3).

5. Click on the dropdown menu (#2) and select Coyote WT. Close the window.

6. Button #7 should say MME. If it doesn't, click on it and select MME as the audio driver.

The above are general, default settings for BIAB that should work in 99% of situations.


Now Exit back to BIAB.

Load a song, generate it and see how it sounds.

Regards,
Noel


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audio driver set up audio menu.JPG

Description: IMAGE 1... Audio driver settings in the 'Audio' menu

coyote WT and audio settings.JPG

Description: IMAGE 2... MIDI driver and VSTi/DXi basic setup

coyote WT setting as default synth.JPG

Description: IMAGE 3... Setting Coyote WT as the default synth


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#461570 - 03/11/18 04:30 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks Noel, midi is a frustrating way to make music.
Real tracks are a saviour but still trying the midi with limited success.
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#461855 - 03/12/18 06:23 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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Hi Noel,

Thanks, this is great. Though MME isn't necessarily the best choice for recording, the settings you outlined will get smooth playback on pretty much any machine that's in decent condition.

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#461908 - 03/13/18 07:36 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Kent - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Kent - PG Music
Hi Noel,

Thanks, this is great. Though MME isn't necessarily the best choice for recording, the settings you outlined will get smooth playback on pretty much any machine that's in decent condition.

Cheers
Kent
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I agree ASIO is normally the better selection for recording audio. However when using the MME selection in 2018 Band-in-a-Box anecdotal remarks in the forum suggests the program is more crash resistant and stable using MME than it is using either WAS or ASIO.
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#465492 - 04/04/18 09:58 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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Hi everyone, thank you Noel. With mme selected I get the preview and I also get the playback so... Actually the miscellaneous error mentioned something about media player I guess.

So if I'm planning to save these tracks to wav files to drop into sonar, once everything is in place would it be wise to switch back to ASIO just to do the transfer? Or will it be okay to save them as wav files using mme settings?
Thank you!


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#465495 - 04/04/18 10:00 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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PS now that everything is working properly I should probably save the preferences again right?
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#465504 - 04/04/18 10:42 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Westside Steve]
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Originally Posted By: Westside Steve
Hi everyone, thank you Noel. With mme selected I get the preview and I also get the playback so... Actually the miscellaneous error mentioned something about media player I guess.

So if I'm planning to save these tracks to wav files to drop into sonar, once everything is in place would it be wise to switch back to ASIO just to do the transfer? Or will it be okay to save them as wav files using mme settings?
Thank you!

Steve,

I'm glad you've got everything working.

It's ok to use MME to save as WAV files.

Whether the driver is MME, ASIO or WAS, the output sound is identical. This means that the sound of the saved WAV files isn't affected by the driver. All the driver does is to provide a different pathway to the speakers and some pathways are quicker than others.

ASIO and WAS provide a quicker pathway to the speakers and are useful if one needs reduced latency for something such as playing a MIDI keyboard hooked up through BIAB or recording a vocal directly into BIAB, etc. If those situations don't apply, there's nothing to be gained by using ASIO or WAS. (I always run BIAB with MME unless I'm recording directly in the program or I occasionally hook up my keyboard. Mostly I record and use my keyboard in my DAW, though, and not BIAB.)


Originally Posted By: Westside Steve
PS now that everything is working properly I should probably save the preferences again right?
WSS


Definitely.

I've always found it a good idea to save a copy of preferences when everything is up and running. It makes it much easier to get back to a stable set up if things go a bit haywire further down the track.

All the best,
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#465532 - 04/04/18 12:05 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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As always Noel, thank you so much for your kind assistance.
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#494894 - 10/09/18 05:14 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Kent - PG Music]
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Hi Noel, thanks for your prompt reply. Just one problem... I forgot to mention that Im a Mac user. Ive been searching for the Mac equivalent of the material in your post, but I can't seem to find anything that directly relates to the Mac version. I'll keep at it, but if anyone has a Mac solution I'd be grateful.
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#494928 - 10/09/18 07:41 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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Wammer,

Post a thread in the Mac forum (the URL is below) and ask for help to set up basic audio and midi drivers.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=39&page=1

Regards,
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#507768 - 12/08/18 12:36 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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BIAB 2019 (64-bit, Windows) Users...

The above settings are for BIAB 2018 and will also work for many of the earlier versions.

The difference with BIAB 2019 for Windows is that the 64-bit version of the program does not support Coyote WT. In this case the default synth should be set to...

VSTSynthFont64 instead of Coyote WT.

Since the 32-bit version of BIAB 2019 supports Coyote WT, the above audio and midi settings will work.
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#507770 - 12/08/18 12:59 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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This sorted a problem for me as well.

Thanks Noel for your time and patience.
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#507827 - 12/08/18 05:02 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: HOW TO: manually setup basic audio & midi for BIAB [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks, Beatmaster!

I'm glad it was useful information.

All the best,
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