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#484589 - 08/04/18 05:21 AM [User Showcase] The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl)
Registered: 08/10/12 Posts: 10206 Loc: Florida floyd jane Veteran Registered: 08/10/12 Posts: 10206 Loc: Florida	A co-write with Kenny Leverett (44kfl). This was originally done as a "Eagles type Country Rock" song using the melody that Kenny wrote. Kenny sang it and did the instrumentation and mixing, etc. It was called "Exception To The Rule". When I considered doing a recording of it, I was a bit tired of doing that style of song... (I had done a bunch of them). I re-envisioned it as a moody Rock kind of thing. (A "reversal of roles" for the two of us....) I wrote a new melody and did a completely different style production (which Kenny was okay with). Since they are really different songs, I renamed it as well to keep them separate. This has been sitting around for a couple of years. I decided to post it yesterday - to see if it might bring Kenny "out of the woodwork". He had sort of disappeared on us - and I, for one, missed hearing his cool brand of music. And, out of the blue... there he was with a new post!! I thought about putting this back on the shelf for a while, but figured...it must be a sign... THE RULE from a spark to a flame when you whispered my name but times, i've been burned by blue eyed cool smoky barroom vignettes nothing but regrets there's always an exception to the rule been stood up, knocked down my heart's been dragged around girls like you playing me for a fool are you just in it for the fun or could you be the one could you be the exception to the rule you've been slowly breaking my resistance with that sweet intoxicating southern drawl pretty soon there'll be no safe distance should i walk away before i have to crawl so what's it gonna be settle in or set me free are you playing for keeps or playing dirty pool one last kiss; one last dance or should we take the bigger chance there's always an exception to the rule you've been slowly breaking my resistance with that sweet intoxicating southern drawl pretty soon there'll be no safe distance should i walk away before i have to crawl slowly breaking my resistance that sweet intoxicating southern drawl soon there'll be no safe distance should i walk away before i have to crawl The BAND: Style is _POPBRIT.STY (PopBrit 2 Guitars (120 RS)) RealTracks in style: ~388:Bass, Electric, Metal Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 645:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopRockBritEdgy Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 648:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopRockBritHeavy Ev 120 RealTracks in song: 698:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm ElecRockDirty Ev 120 (A:muted) RealTracks in song: 633:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopAmericanMuted Ev 120 (A:sync) RealTracks in song: 1722:Guitar, Electric, Soloist TexasBluesRockStraightSol Ev 120 RealDrums in style: RockHardModernEv8^1-a:Snare, HiHat , b:4 beat Snare, HiHat Loop - BIAB Cowbell Hope you enjoy it. Kenny - welcome back, man! floyd _________________________ 150+ Songs produced using BIAB RealTracks And 50 more... and some more...
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#484598 - 08/04/18 07:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 08/29/14 Posts: 6306 Loc: North Carolina David Snyder Veteran Registered: 08/29/14 Posts: 6306 Loc: North Carolina	Minus the electric solo, I could totally here R.E.M. doing this. (Not that I mind the solo, mind you.) There is some really sweet jangle rock going on here. Floyd, I have decided you are really a rocker just pretending to be the sensitive guy. Great collab guys. _________________________ David Snyder Studio + Fingers ASCAP, NSAI www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder/songs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1Mu1mqpGQWnm202ZatCtiq www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder
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#484600 - 08/04/18 08:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 11/30/07 Posts: 4344 Loc: Ontario, Canada BlueAttitude Veteran Registered: 11/30/07 Posts: 4344 Loc: Ontario, Canada	Yeah, I love this! I like it when you let your inner rock star out, Floyd! You have a good voice for this type of material IMHO. Lots of good things happening in the production, the holds in the chorus for example. Lead guitar sounds "right" to me, fits the song perfectly. Nice collaboration you two! _________________________ Dave Blue Attitude Website Blue Attitude YouTube channel
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#484601 - 08/04/18 08:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/12/11 Posts: 3289 Loc: York, England ROG Veteran Registered: 12/12/11 Posts: 3289 Loc: York, England	Hi Floyd, Well, I know I've said it before, but I DO like your heavier side. And I know you're a Country Boy at heart, but you do full-on rock like this SO well. Hats off to Kenny as well though, for writing a nice dark chord sequence for you to mess around with. Sounds good LOUD, sounds good on the speakers, sounds good in the 'phones, so must be good. I'm not even gonna ask for the solo to be louder - hey, just pleased to hear a solo like that in one of your productions. Can we have so more of this stuff, please? ROG. _________________________ Free online guitar lessons. Cours de guitare gratuit en ligne.
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#484605 - 08/04/18 09:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 09/27/10 Posts: 5119 Loc: Sacramento, California dcuny Veteran Registered: 09/27/10 Posts: 5119 Loc: Sacramento, California	Great write, well sung, excellent rocking mix. In my phones, everything is sitting in it's own space nicely - especially the "heavy" drums. I particularly liked the "intoxicating Southern drawl" line. I was betting on you rhyming it with "...gonna fall". So much for my powers of prediction! I enjoyed that song a lot! _________________________ -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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#484607 - 08/04/18 09:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 11/19/12 Posts: 2360 Loc: Middletown, PA. 44kfl Veteran Registered: 11/19/12 Posts: 2360 Loc: Middletown, PA.	Awesome! Sounds dangerous Sol soloist never sounded better to me, I always seem to audition him and then go with Brent on everything when using a soloist. My version was just a straight ahead Dwight Yoakam country-rock jukebox barroom romp in an E major or G major (can't remember which). This sounds minor-key dark and more complex, super catchy like something I wish I'd written. Great vocal and super mix you elevated this song!
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#484621 - 08/04/18 10:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/12/12 Posts: 2765 Loc: South Africa JoanneCooper Veteran Registered: 05/12/12 Posts: 2765 Loc: South Africa	What a nice back story Floyd. Glad you resurrected this one. Welcome back Kenny. _________________________ Band-in-a-Box reseller https://www.joannecooper.co.za Commission a Band-in-a-Box SGU file https://www.fiverr.com/joannecoopersa/create-a-guitar-play-along-video-for-any-song
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#484625 - 08/04/18 11:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/08/11 Posts: 6641 Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada Scott C Veteran Registered: 12/08/11 Posts: 6641 Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada	What a cool collaboration Floyd and Kenny. Awesome rocker. Super lyric, vocals and harmonies. Guitar was just smokin….Well done _________________________ Scott Collingwood https://soundcloud.com/scottt709 https://soundcloud.com/spiritlevel-ca
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#484628 - 08/04/18 12:17 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/29/12 Posts: 5897 Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al... Al-David Veteran Registered: 12/29/12 Posts: 5897 Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...	nice you gave it a new breath of air! A little dark rock with some attitude. I don't normally listen to much of this but this was pretty danged cool. Loved it1 I like Floyd's harder side . a new look at our our friend! Nice! Alan _________________________ BIAB 2022 Ultra Plus-all StylePaksWin108GB DDR4I5-6th GenAT 2035 MicPeavey Nashville 112 AmpIbanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops
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#484632 - 08/04/18 02:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/02/14 Posts: 3622 Loc: The Netherlands RnAM Veteran Registered: 05/02/14 Posts: 3622 Loc: The Netherlands	Floyd, We've said it before, apart from being a good country singer, you really are a very good rocker! Please go on making this kind of songs. The mix is excellent. This is a great rock song, which is very catchy too! Really good job from both of you! Rob and Anne-Marie _________________________ We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos http://rnam.net/
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#484653 - 08/04/18 04:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 01/18/16 Posts: 1664 Joe -PG Music PG Music Staff Registered: 01/18/16 Posts: 1664	Hi floyd, I enjoyed this! I really enjoyed the overall tone of this. Fantastic choice of instrumentation, and great work on the guitars they sound very crunchy! Great use of EFX. Thanks for sharing! _________________________ Cheers, Joe
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#484676 - 08/04/18 08:51 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 10/31/08 Posts: 17766 Loc: Australia Noel96 Veteran Registered: 10/31/08 Posts: 17766 Loc: Australia	Floyd, As mentioned a couple of years ago, you and Kenny have done a really great job in writing this song. "Burned by blue-eyed cool" is still a standout line! The current version, though, takes the previous version in a whole new direction. What stood out to me most was how you've taken what was an AABA format and while you've kept the AABA presentation, you've modified the format so that it finishes with repeated B-sections. That really intrigued me. Normally to end an AABA song using the B section does not work effectively. But that was not the case here. Moreover, these days, the only way that a song usually ends with a B-section is if that B-section is a chorus. In this song of yours and Kenny's, though, the B-section did not sound like a chorus at all to me. The more I thought about it, the more I came to see that your approach to format reminded me of a jazz technique I've come across a few times recently. There are a number of songs from the 40s/50s that use ABAB where B is definitely neither a chorus nor a bridge but just another musical section. One that springs to mind is Loesser's "If I Were A Bell" from 'Guys and Dolls'. The first appearance of the B-section starts with Jean Simmons singing "From the moment we kissed tonight..." and ends with "If I were a banner I'd wave." In the following repetition of the A- and B-sections, the B-section ends the the sequence at that point with a slight variation of the original B-section. In all honesty, I found it very refreshing to hear "The Rule". You and Kenny have given me a great deal to ponder! Impressive work! All the best, Noel P.S. Also, as always, I was left thinking... "How does floyd manage to produce such a spectacular sound!" _________________________ LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS audios on Soundcloud videos on VIMEO
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#484681 - 08/05/18 12:07 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 04/13/16 Posts: 4425 Loc: Cooran Queensland Australia rayc Veteran Registered: 04/13/16 Posts: 4425 Loc: Cooran Queensland Australia	It rocks, really rocks. You do this sort of thing oh so well. _________________________ Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
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#484721 - 08/05/18 11:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: BlueAttitude]
Registered: 08/10/12 Posts: 10206 Loc: Florida floyd jane Veteran Registered: 08/10/12 Posts: 10206 Loc: Florida	Originally Posted By: David Snyder Minus the electric solo, I could totally here R.E.M. doing this. (Not that I mind the solo, mind you.) There is some really sweet jangle rock going on here. Floyd, I have decided you are really a rocker just pretending to be the sensitive guy. Great collab guys. Yeah, I decided to ditch the "sensitive guy" label... shopping for a leather vest and Harley... arrrrgh... Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude Yeah, I love this! I like it when you let your inner rock star out, Floyd! You have a good voice for this type of material IMHO. Lots of good things happening in the production, the holds in the chorus for example. Lead guitar sounds "right" to me, fits the song perfectly. Nice collaboration you two! Thanks, Dave!! BTW - those holds in the chorus are the Medium Rock Brent soloist 120 RT doing holds - that RT does great holds - big, explosive and smooth, hitting just the way they need to for that sound... _________________________ 150+ Songs produced using BIAB RealTracks And 50 more... and some more...
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#484726 - 08/05/18 11:35 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 11/29/06 Posts: 2718 Loc: Finland jannesan Veteran Registered: 11/29/06 Posts: 2718 Loc: Finland	Really great rocker with catchy 'big drum' chorus - I like the minor chord approach. Nice lyrics. Vocals, arrangement and mix are excellent. The solo guitar fits like a glove. Janne _________________________ Hear My Music: Soundcloud YouTube
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#484734 - 08/05/18 11:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/30/08 Posts: 4997 Loc: Gulf Coast Sundance Veteran Registered: 05/30/08 Posts: 4997 Loc: Gulf Coast	+1 to all the accolades! FJ and Kenny - Great collab! Sounds terrific! _________________________ Josie Beck - Youtube Channel I'm moving most of my music off Soundcloud. Click my Youtube link above to hear my songs. Thank you.
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#484768 - 08/05/18 07:51 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/06/03 Posts: 4812 Loc: Sydney Australia PeterF Veteran Registered: 12/06/03 Posts: 4812 Loc: Sydney Australia	floyd / Kenny Excellent work - all the accolades deserved. Great mix and a huge sound. Great work all round. Peter
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#484831 - 08/06/18 10:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/23/17 Posts: 780 Loc: Alabama cliftond Journeyman Registered: 12/23/17 Posts: 780 Loc: Alabama	Good solid song. Well written, performed and mixed. Enjoyed it Floyd!!! Cliff
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#484853 - 08/06/18 02:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: ROG]
Registered: 08/10/12 Posts: 10206 Loc: Florida floyd jane Veteran Registered: 08/10/12 Posts: 10206 Loc: Florida	Originally Posted By: ROG Hi Floyd, Well, I know I've said it before, but I DO like your heavier side. And I know you're a Country Boy at heart, but you do full-on rock like this SO well. Hats off to Kenny as well though, for writing a nice dark chord sequence for you to mess around with. Sounds good LOUD, sounds good on the speakers, sounds good in the 'phones, so must be good. I'm not even gonna ask for the solo to be louder - hey, just pleased to hear a solo like that in one of your productions. Can we have so more of this stuff, please? ROG. Thanks, ROG - you are giving me more confidence about doing Rock numbers - I sometimes think "they aren't my thing"... _________________________ 150+ Songs produced using BIAB RealTracks And 50 more... and some more...
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#484863 - 08/06/18 04:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/21/13 Posts: 6571 Loc: Davis, CA Greg Johnson Veteran Registered: 12/21/13 Posts: 6571 Loc: Davis, CA	Two of my favorite writers (on or off the forum)!!! I knew it would be great, and IT IS!! I can hear both of you in the song. Clever, interesting lyric with some great lines, including pretty soon there'll be no safe distance should i walk away before i have to crawl Just right! The melody is perfect at blending the excitement mixed with apprehension of the relationship. The production/vocals are tops, and the guitar solo is perfect for the song. Certainly one of the forum A-teams! Great, great stuff guys!! Take care. Greg
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