Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#484589 - 08/04/18 05:21 AM [User Showcase] The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl)
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8581
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8581
Loc: Florida
A co-write with Kenny Leverett (44kfl).

This was originally done as a "Eagles type Country Rock" song using the melody that Kenny wrote.
Kenny sang it and did the instrumentation and mixing, etc.
It was called "Exception To The Rule".

When I considered doing a recording of it, I was a bit tired of doing that style of song...
(I had done a bunch of them).
I re-envisioned it as a moody Rock kind of thing.
(A "reversal of roles" for the two of us....)
I wrote a new melody and did a completely different style production (which Kenny was okay with).
Since they are really different songs, I renamed it as well to keep them separate.

This has been sitting around for a couple of years.
I decided to post it yesterday - to see if it might bring Kenny "out of the woodwork".
He had sort of disappeared on us - and I, for one, missed hearing his cool brand of music.
And, out of the blue... there he was with a new post!!
I thought about putting this back on the shelf for a while, but figured...it must be a sign...



THE RULE

from a spark to a flame
when you whispered my name
but times, i've been burned by blue eyed cool
smoky barroom vignettes
nothing but regrets
there's always an exception to the rule

been stood up, knocked down
my heart's been dragged around
girls like you playing me for a fool
are you just in it for the fun
or could you be the one
could you be the exception to the rule

   you've been slowly breaking my resistance
   with that sweet intoxicating southern drawl
   pretty soon there'll be no safe distance
   should i walk away before i have to crawl

so what's it gonna be
settle in or set me free
are you playing for keeps or playing dirty pool
one last kiss; one last dance
or should we take the bigger chance
there's always an exception to the rule

   you've been slowly breaking my resistance
   with that sweet intoxicating southern drawl
   pretty soon there'll be no safe distance
   should i walk away before i have to crawl

   slowly breaking my resistance
   that sweet intoxicating southern drawl
   soon there'll be no safe distance
   should i walk away before i have to crawl



The BAND:
Style is _POPBRIT.STY (PopBrit 2 Guitars (120 RS))
RealTracks in style: ~388:Bass, Electric, Metal Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 645:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopRockBritEdgy Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 648:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopRockBritHeavy Ev 120
RealTracks in song: 698:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm ElecRockDirty Ev 120 (A:muted)
RealTracks in song: 633:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopAmericanMuted Ev 120 (A:sync)
RealTracks in song: 1722:Guitar, Electric, Soloist TexasBluesRockStraightSol Ev 120
RealDrums in style: RockHardModernEv8^1-a:Snare, HiHat , b:4 beat Snare, HiHat
Loop - BIAB Cowbell




Hope you enjoy it.
Kenny - welcome back, man!

floyd

Top
#484598 - 08/04/18 07:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 5071
Loc: North Carolina
David Snyder Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 5071
Loc: North Carolina
Minus the electric solo, I could totally here R.E.M. doing this. (Not that I mind the solo, mind you.)

There is some really sweet jangle rock going on here.

Floyd, I have decided you are really a rocker just pretending to be the sensitive guy.

smile

Great collab guys.
_________________________
David Snyder
Audiophile Everything + Studio + Instruments + Fingers
ASCAP, NSAI

www.davidsnydermusic.com
www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder
www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel
www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder







Top
#484600 - 08/04/18 08:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 3388
Loc: Ontario, Canada
BlueAttitude Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 3388
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Yeah, I love this!

I like it when you let your inner rock star out, Floyd! You have a good voice for this type of material IMHO.

Lots of good things happening in the production, the holds in the chorus for example. Lead guitar sounds "right" to me, fits the song perfectly.

Nice collaboration you two!
_________________________
Dave

Blue Attitude Website

Top
#484601 - 08/04/18 08:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 2977
Loc: York, England
ROG Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/12/11
Posts: 2977
Loc: York, England
Hi Floyd,

Well, I know I've said it before, but I DO like your heavier side.
And I know you're a Country Boy at heart, but you do full-on rock like
this SO well. Hats off to Kenny as well though, for writing a nice dark
chord sequence for you to mess around with.

Sounds good LOUD, sounds good on the speakers, sounds good in the 'phones,
so must be good. I'm not even gonna ask for the solo to be louder - hey, just
pleased to hear a solo like that in one of your productions.

Can we have so more of this stuff, please?

ROG.

Top
#484605 - 08/04/18 09:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3572
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3572
Loc: Sacramento, California
Great write, well sung, excellent rocking mix. In my phones, everything is sitting in it's own space nicely - especially the "heavy" drums.

I particularly liked the "intoxicating Southern drawl" line. I was betting on you rhyming it with "...gonna fall". So much for my powers of prediction!

I enjoyed that song a lot! laugh
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#484607 - 08/04/18 09:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 2360
Loc: Middletown, PA.
44kfl Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 2360
Loc: Middletown, PA.
Awesome! Sounds dangerous

Sol soloist never sounded better to me, I always seem to audition
him and then go with Brent on everything when using a soloist.

My version was just a straight ahead Dwight Yoakam country-rock
jukebox barroom romp in an E major or G major (can't remember which).

This sounds minor-key dark and more complex, super catchy
like something I wish I'd written.

Great vocal and super mix

you elevated this song!

Top
#484621 - 08/04/18 10:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2632
Loc: South Africa
JoanneCooper Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2632
Loc: South Africa
What a nice back story Floyd. Glad you resurrected this one. Welcome back Kenny.

Top
#484625 - 08/04/18 11:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 5182
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Scott C Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 5182
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
What a cool collaboration Floyd and Kenny. Awesome rocker. Super lyric, vocals and harmonies. Guitar was just smokin….Well done

Top
#484628 - 08/04/18 12:17 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 4849
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 4849
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
nice you gave it a new breath of air! A little dark rock with some attitude. I don't normally listen to much of this but this was pretty danged cool. Loved it1 I like Floyd's harder side . a new look at our our friend! Nice!

Alan
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#484632 - 08/04/18 02:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3180
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3180
Loc: The Netherlands
Floyd,

We've said it before, apart from being a good country singer, you really are a very good rocker!
Please go on making this kind of songs.
The mix is excellent.
This is a great rock song, which is very catchy too!
Really good job from both of you!

Rob and Anne-Marie
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

RnAM Homepage (completely restyled)
YouTube Channel

Top
#484653 - 08/04/18 04:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 1664
Joe -PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 1664
Hi floyd, I enjoyed this! I really enjoyed the overall tone of this. Fantastic choice of instrumentation, and great work on the guitars they sound very crunchy! Great use of EFX. Thanks for sharing!
_________________________
Cheers,
Joe

Top
#484676 - 08/04/18 08:51 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 16635
Loc: Australia
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 16635
Loc: Australia
Floyd,

As mentioned a couple of years ago, you and Kenny have done a really great job in writing this song. "Burned by blue-eyed cool" is still a standout line!

The current version, though, takes the previous version in a whole new direction.

What stood out to me most was how you've taken what was an AABA format and while you've kept the AABA presentation, you've modified the format so that it finishes with repeated B-sections. That really intrigued me. Normally to end an AABA song using the B section does not work effectively. But that was not the case here. Moreover, these days, the only way that a song usually ends with a B-section is if that B-section is a chorus. In this song of yours and Kenny's, though, the B-section did not sound like a chorus at all to me.

The more I thought about it, the more I came to see that your approach to format reminded me of a jazz technique I've come across a few times recently. There are a number of songs from the 40s/50s that use ABAB where B is definitely neither a chorus nor a bridge but just another musical section. One that springs to mind is Loesser's "If I Were A Bell" from 'Guys and Dolls'.



The first appearance of the B-section starts with Jean Simmons singing "From the moment we kissed tonight..." and ends with "If I were a banner I'd wave." In the following repetition of the A- and B-sections, the B-section ends the the sequence at that point with a slight variation of the original B-section.

In all honesty, I found it very refreshing to hear "The Rule". You and Kenny have given me a great deal to ponder!

Impressive work!

All the best,
Noel

P.S. Also, as always, I was left thinking... "How does floyd manage to produce such a spectacular sound!"
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#484681 - 08/05/18 12:07 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 2426
Loc: Stanwell Park NSW Australia
rayc Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 2426
Loc: Stanwell Park NSW Australia
It rocks, really rocks.
You do this sort of thing oh so well.
_________________________
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
Pop on over to The Recording Rebels for positive, honest commentary, critiques and support. https://therecordingrebels.com

Top
#484721 - 08/05/18 11:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: BlueAttitude]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8581
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8581
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Minus the electric solo, I could totally here R.E.M. doing this. (Not that I mind the solo, mind you.)

There is some really sweet jangle rock going on here.

Floyd, I have decided you are really a rocker just pretending to be the sensitive guy.

smile

Great collab guys.


Yeah, I decided to ditch the "sensitive guy" label... shopping for a leather vest and Harley... arrrrgh...



Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Yeah, I love this!

I like it when you let your inner rock star out, Floyd! You have a good voice for this type of material IMHO.

Lots of good things happening in the production, the holds in the chorus for example. Lead guitar sounds "right" to me, fits the song perfectly.

Nice collaboration you two!


Thanks, Dave!! BTW - those holds in the chorus are the Medium Rock Brent soloist 120 RT doing holds - that RT does great holds - big, explosive and smooth, hitting just the way they need to for that sound...

Top
#484726 - 08/05/18 11:35 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 2004
Loc: Finland
jannesan Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 2004
Loc: Finland
Really great rocker with catchy 'big drum' chorus - I like the minor chord approach. Nice lyrics. Vocals, arrangement and mix are excellent. The solo guitar fits like a glove.

Janne

Top
#484734 - 08/05/18 11:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 4589
Sundance Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 4589
+1 to all the accolades! FJ and Kenny - Great collab! Sounds terrific!

Top
#484768 - 08/05/18 07:51 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 3739
Loc: Sydney Australia
PeterF Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 3739
Loc: Sydney Australia
floyd / Kenny

Excellent work - all the accolades deserved. Great mix and a huge sound.
Great work all round.

Peter

Top
#484831 - 08/06/18 10:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/23/17
Posts: 713
Loc: Alabama
cliftond Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 12/23/17
Posts: 713
Loc: Alabama
Good solid song. Well written, performed and mixed. Enjoyed it Floyd!!! Cliff

Top
#484853 - 08/06/18 02:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: ROG]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8581
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8581
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: ROG
Hi Floyd,

Well, I know I've said it before, but I DO like your heavier side.
And I know you're a Country Boy at heart, but you do full-on rock like
this SO well. Hats off to Kenny as well though, for writing a nice dark
chord sequence for you to mess around with.

Sounds good LOUD, sounds good on the speakers, sounds good in the 'phones,
so must be good. I'm not even gonna ask for the solo to be louder - hey, just
pleased to hear a solo like that in one of your productions.

Can we have so more of this stuff, please?

ROG.


Thanks, ROG - you are giving me more confidence about doing Rock numbers - I sometimes think "they aren't my thing"...

Top
#484863 - 08/06/18 04:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Rule (co-write w/ 44kfl) [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 5781
Loc: Davis, CA
Greg Johnson Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 5781
Loc: Davis, CA
Two of my favorite writers (on or off the forum)!!! I knew it would be great, and IT IS!! I can hear both of you in the song. Clever, interesting lyric with some great lines, including

pretty soon there'll be no safe distance
should i walk away before i have to crawl

Just right! The melody is perfect at blending the excitement mixed with apprehension of the relationship. The production/vocals are tops, and the guitar solo is perfect for the song. Certainly one of the forum A-teams! Great, great stuff guys!! Take care. Greg

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >


PG Music News
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Mac Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for Mac to the latest build 419 to correct any improper messages for Natural Arrangements, apply VST setting improvements, experience faster customized RealTracks and RealDrums Pickers, and fix a few other user-reported issues within the program.

You'll also receive the latest DAW Plugin version 2.12.15 update, with more than 30 additions and updates, including additional options within context menus, the ability to loop a set of bars by highlighting them, and more!

Learn more about this FREE update and download it here.

Let's Hear Your Band-in-a-Box® Songs!

Working on your first song in Band-in-a-Box®? Or maybe you've built up a great collection of songs... Make sure to share them to the User Showcase Forum where other program users post their original songs too! Receive feedback, build your audience, and connect with other enthusiastic program users - you'll be happy you did!

While you're there, make sure to listen to some of the other great songs posted!

Band-in-a-Box® Country Music Add-ons!

Happy International Country Music Day!!!

You might not think of Band-in-a-Box® as a country music making machine, but you'd be surprised... there are OVER 850 Country RealTracks available!

See (hear?) the Country songs created by Band-in-a-Box® users when you check out the Band-in-a-Box® Radio playlists Country/EZ Listening/Folk 1 and Country/EZ Listening/Folk 2.

Feeling inspired to create your own Country song in Band-in-a-Box®? Pop into the RealTracks Picker and create your own custom country band by filtering for "Country" or choose an existing Country style within the StylePicker Window by choosing a "Country" Filter String (from the drop down menu).

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 French for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 apporte plus de 50 nouvelles fonctionnalités ! Des améliorations ont été apportées aux RealTracks (RealTracks vocales au son plus doux, Epaississement des RealTracks, fonctions RealTracks "Trouver un Subs" et Multiriffs). La majorité des RealDrums dispose maintenant de RealCharts (avec une notation Drums précise). Le nouveau navigateur d'artistes RealTracks permet la recherche d'informations/bios/liens/listes sur artistes RealTracks. Le nouveau navigateur de fonctions permet à l'utilisateur nouveau ou "tête en l'air" de trouver et d'utiliser facilement la plupart des fonctionnalités/raccourcis/documents à partir d'une seule fenêtre. L'égalisation du tempo permet de changer un morceau rubato enregistré en un tempo fixe. L'étirement audio temps/pitch a été amélioré (Elastique inclus). Il y a des améliorations un peu partout dans le SongPicker, les Intros automatiques avec Basse/drums ou drums seuls, l'extension du nombre de titres avec + 3.400 titres nouveaux, MusicXML, la guitare avec vues "gaucher" et "élève", la fonction glisser-déposer, l'affichage multi-fenêtres de l'Assistant Accord Audio et bien plus encore !

ACHAT / MISE À JOUR, & TÉLÉCHARGEMENT MAINTENANT!

Get Inspired with the Band-in-a-Box® Title Generator!

There can be many triggers that could inspire you to write a song... but what if you're wanting to write a song, and are having trouble finding the inspiration you need?

Jump start your creativity using the Title Generator feature in Band-in-a-Box®.

I love this feature - it delivers some beautiful results!

To access this feature:

Mac: select Edit | Chords | Auto-Generate Song Title menu command (control+shift+S). The song title will appear in the Title window! Repeat the Auto-Generate Song Title command until the program comes up with a suitable title for your song. Band-in-a-Box® will keep generating new titles for as long as it takes to get the right one.

Windows: click on the "Generate Title" button within the main screen of the program and you can choose to "auto-generate" a song title which will appear right in the Title field of your song, or for a more varied selection choose to "generate multiple titles" and you'll be taken to the Title Generator window, which can generate a list of 50 song titles for you!

I've just done this, and won't bother list all 50 here - but the "top 10" I've chosen from my generated list are:
Eloquent Laugh
Statuesque Luck
Considering a Rainbow
Brief Fling, Acknowledged
Something for a Sandpiper
Happy Runaround
Cheatin' Skies
Then Came a Rose
The Mention of My Love
Eternal Raincheck

Give it a try!

The resource for this feature can also be edited, allowing you to customize the results.
(to do this, review the file TITL1.TXT within the BB Data folder.)

Band-in-a-Box® - Loops-with-Style PAK Video Tutorial

Wondering how to use the Loops-with-Style PAKs in your songs?

Check out our latest video, where we explain installing Loops-with-Style PAKs, locating the content within the proram, and how to use them in either in Band-in-a-Box® or in other DAWs - Watch the video...

Learn about the Styles included, applying the Loops, how the Loops will work with your song settings, using these Loops in other DAWs, and more!

Note: this video was made using the Windows version, however the steps are the same for Mac.

Share Your Love for Band-in-a-Box®!

Want everyone to know how much you enjoy Band-in-a-Box? Submit a Video Testimonial today, and when we share it on our website and YouTube channel, we'll send you a FREE Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK hard drive!

Check out some of the great Video Testimonials we've already received here.

For more information on this offer, click here.

Forum Stats
32861 Members
68 Forums
66176 Topics
562069 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
tarloch, VK3KKP, lonnydude, Dale Hamm, MikeHannigan

32860 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
eddie1261 172
VideoTrack 141
Janice & Bud 128
Pipeline 122
Planobilly 118
floyd jane 109
MarioD 109
Matt Finley 105
rayc 96
Jim Fogle 95
Today's Birthdays
Carolyne, Funkifized, johntru9j, zaragemca