Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#501054 - 11/12/18 11:32 PM [User Showcase] Love Goes
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Hi, all:

It seems the more I play with this one, the worse I think I make it. This is remix 3000, or so it feels. I'm gonna let it go and count on all your collective sage wisdom to guide me. Thanks in advance for the listen and your kind feedback.

My best to all of you,

Deej

Love Goes (Revised)

It’s not your fault, I know;
but I can read the writing in your eyes— so you know.
It really shouldn’t come as a surprise.
It just shows even all the best things fall apart,
however hard you try.
And I wonder where it goes—
how love comes to your heart
then disappears.

Restless hearts, restless minds;
say goodbye to what we’ll leave behind.
Reckless thoughts, reckless words—
maybe time will finally heal the hurt.
(Who knows where love goes?)

It’s not my choice to leave;
and I can hear your voice sound like a symphony,
playing sweet upon my doubts and empathy—
it’s a melody you’ve played before
to bring me to my knees,
but not anymore,
and so, darling, can’t we please
just let this go.

Restless hearts, restless minds;
say goodbye to what we’ll leave behind.
Reckless thoughts, reckless words—
maybe time will finally heal the hurt.
(Who knows where love goes?)

Too late to turn the hands of time,
to undo what was said,
to undo what we’ve done;
a song can’t be unsung—
no, our time has run.

Restless hearts, restless minds;
say goodbye to what we’ll leave behind.
Reckless thoughts, reckless words;
maybe time will finally heal the hurt.
(Who knows where love goes?)

2018(c)DJ Lekich

Here's the "band":

Drums: Real Drums, Nashville Even 8^6 high hat
Bass: Real 518 Bass, Electric Pop Half Notes, ev 085
Piano 1: Real 891, Acoustic, Solo Accompaniment Pop Liverpool ev 065
Piano 2: Real 831, Acoustic, Solo Accompaniment Waltz Slow ev 085
Piano 3: Real 1006, Acoustic, Solo Accompaniment Pop California ev 085
Guitar: Real 368, Acoustic strumming ev 065
Strings: Midi, ST 2521 String quartet, Rhythm pop ev 085



Edited by Deej56 (11/13/18 06:30 PM)

Top
#501056 - 11/13/18 12:15 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 08/21/18
Posts: 1116
Tangmo Offline
Expert

Registered: 08/21/18
Posts: 1116
Strong lyric, stronger vocal. Change nothing about that.

The longer the song went, the better it got with the addition of harmony and strings. But I think the beginning could use some love as well. I was lost as to the "structure" of the song until those bits of extra production helped carve it out. I could suggest cello, background electric guitar, pads of some sort in turns to further delineate the "sections" of the song. Perhaps some holds at the ends of the sections might work well too.

Actually, the more I hear of piano chording real-tracks, the more I think they can really be helped along by something "underneath" and maybe a bit more reverb to help "humanize" them.

Don't know how sage that wisdom is, or even if it's wisdom at all. But there it is.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground

Top
#501089 - 11/13/18 08:07 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8568
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8568
Loc: Florida
Deej,

A nice melody, particularly the chorus.

A strong vocal (as Tangmo noted). I think you could roll off some of the high EQ to give it a little warmth.

I can't hear the bass at all. Bringing that up will help with the structure that Tangmo mentioned. The drums are really buried, too - can only hear them between the section - like they completely drop out the rest of the time. The strings at the end are nice.

fj

Top
#501175 - 11/13/18 06:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Tangmo]
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Thanks, Tangmo, appreciate the listen and kind words on the vocal and lyrics. Production is still new to me, so it's often hit and miss. Floyd provided some additional suggestions and I'm going to start there, and have. I've linked up to a new version of the song. I've probably made it worse, but for what it's worth . . .

All the best,

Deej

Top
#501177 - 11/13/18 06:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Floyd,

Thanks for the comments and feedback--all great suggestions. I've tried to incorporate them in a new version, which I've hopefully linked to above. Not sure it makes it much better, but hopefully a step in the right direction.

Hope all is well in your world.

Deej

Top
#501184 - 11/13/18 07:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 2056
Rustyspoon# Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 2056
Enjoyed much!
Your vocal delivery on the last couple of songs reminded me of Vaughn Monroe-Riders in the Sky.

Misha.

Top
#501198 - 11/13/18 10:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 08/21/18
Posts: 1116
Tangmo Offline
Expert

Registered: 08/21/18
Posts: 1116
This was better with simply the rhythm section getting raised as per Floyd's suggestion. That's definitely the direction to go, I think.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground

Top
#501201 - 11/13/18 11:21 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 4838
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 4838
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Hi Deej,

Very pretty song. Lots of emotion in both the lyric and vocal delivery. I didn't hear before you made a few adjustments, so I can comment only on this version.

I think it's pretty strong. I think the drums could come up yet some more. And when the strings came in, the song really soared. perhaps bring them in a but earlier?

Regardless, I really enjoyed it. Nice all around work.

Wishing you the very best.

Alan
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#501259 - 11/14/18 09:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 1664
Joe -PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 1664
Hello Deej56, I really enjoyed the overall tone of this. This is beautiful and a solid key signature choice too. That piano is gorgeous! Very captivating lyrics. Great work!
_________________________
Cheers,
Joe

Top
#501371 - 11/15/18 03:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 5172
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Scott C Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 5172
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Really enjoyed your vocal. You have a unique voice in a good way. Well done..

Top
#501391 - 11/15/18 05:38 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 1272
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Tano Music Online   content
Expert

Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 1272
Loc: Charlotte, NC
DJ: Sounds right-on to me! Not sure what you are fiddling with...melody/lyric? Production mix? I like it as it is.

If you're looking for suggestions, here's what I would do a little differently:

Add some movement to the 2nd verse: I think that, in a slow ballad like this, where you have verses that repeat melodically, it's a good idea to build up the arrangement--first time through: simple and basic, 2nd time thru: add a component--maybe more drum, strings..just an idea.

Just my slant on things, but I don't think you need to 're-mix' more than this!

Thanks for sharing your work!

Top
#501419 - 11/15/18 07:25 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 3370
Loc: Ontario, Canada
BlueAttitude Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 3370
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Lots of passion happening with your vocal, I like it! It's especially good once you add the second vocal in there.

Didn't hear your original mix, but this one sounds pretty good to me.
_________________________
Dave

Blue Attitude Website

Top
#501422 - 11/15/18 07:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 9253
Loc: GA USA
Janice & Bud Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 9253
Loc: GA USA
We like it! We are always in for a soulful vocal irrespective of the genre.

It sounds really good on our monitors. One minor consideration (and only since you asked). Since the piano RT's are stereo and given that the lower end of the keyboard tends to the left and the upper to the right panning the track close to center often sounds good - particularly if the piano is up in the mix (floyd first made me aware of this several years ago). But there is no "wrong" or "right" where you put it - just opinions smile

The strings are nice, the vocal is distinctive and strong and the write is very poignant.

Well done!

J&B


Edited by Janice & Bud (11/16/18 02:38 PM)

Top
#501426 - 11/15/18 07:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 2423
Loc: Warwickshire, UK
Skyline Offline
Veteran

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 2423
Loc: Warwickshire, UK
Hi DJ. This is a good song with nice changes and a good arrangement, and sung with a lot of passion.

Possible improvements, (caveat: how I mix a song is personal to me, and how I like to balance instruments and voices!)
- I felt the title should be "Restless Hearts", which is the pay-off first line of the choruses.
- The passion in the vocal has made it strident and 'shouty' in places and too forward in the mix, I'd EQ down some of the upper mids to make the tone warmer and also lower the volume a tad.
- I could hardly hear the drums at all, they need to come up, also the strumming guitar part is similarly too low in the mix.

I hope that's of some help, and thanks for letting us hear this one!

John
_________________________
Songs web site
YouTube Channel
Band web site
BIAB 2019
Cakewalk by BandLab
Studio One 4

Top
#501438 - 11/15/18 08:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3221
Deryk - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3221
I personally found this rendition to be really stunning. I definitely don't think you need to further mix this smile The vocals and strong and memorable, and the entire tune has an aura of beautiful sincerity. I absolutely loved the slow build up near the end in it too.

You should be proud of this one - thanks for sharing!
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk

Top
#501700 - 11/16/18 02:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 5766
Loc: Davis, CA
Greg Johnson Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 5766
Loc: Davis, CA
Wonderful emotion and passion here!! Some really nice lines in there. Wonderful, soulful vocal! Really nicely done!! Take care. Greg

Top
#501762 - 11/16/18 11:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Rustyspoon#]
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Rusty,

Thank you kindly. I’m not familiar with Vaughn Monroe, but I’ll definitely check him out. Appreciate the listen.

Kind regards,

Deej

Top
#501763 - 11/16/18 11:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Tangmo]
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Tangmo,

Thanks—Floyd’s suggestions are usually spot on. Following the comments below, I took another dive into the mix. Found a better drum and upped it. I think (hope) that, among other things, helps even more. Appreciate your giving this a second listen.

All the best,

Deej

Top
#501764 - 11/16/18 11:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Alan,

Thanks for the listen. Drums—they kill me. But on my most recent mix I think I found a drummer that wasn’t so in love with the high hat—so felt better upping up the volume. Hopefully this is better in that regard. As for the strings earlier—really was intending to hold them to the end and build up to them, so I’m reluctant to bring them in too early. But I’ll give it more thought. Thanks again for the great feedback.

Best regards,

Deej

Top
#501765 - 11/16/18 11:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: Love Goes [Re: Deej56]
Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Deej56 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/23/18
Posts: 723
Loc: Mill Valley, California USA
Joe and Scott,

Glad you both enjoyed the tune. Hopefully the more recent tweaks in version number 3 have improved things a bit.

All the best,

Deej

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® Country Music Add-ons!

Happy International Country Music Day!!!

You might not think of Band-in-a-Box® as a country music making machine, but you'd be surprised... there are OVER 850 Country RealTracks available!

See (hear?) the Country songs created by Band-in-a-Box® users when you check out the Band-in-a-Box® Radio playlists Country/EZ Listening/Folk 1 and Country/EZ Listening/Folk 2.

Feeling inspired to create your own Country song in Band-in-a-Box®? Pop into the RealTracks Picker and create your own custom country band by filtering for "Country" or choose an existing Country style within the StylePicker Window by choosing a "Country" Filter String (from the drop down menu).

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 French for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 apporte plus de 50 nouvelles fonctionnalités ! Des améliorations ont été apportées aux RealTracks (RealTracks vocales au son plus doux, Epaississement des RealTracks, fonctions RealTracks "Trouver un Subs" et Multiriffs). La majorité des RealDrums dispose maintenant de RealCharts (avec une notation Drums précise). Le nouveau navigateur d'artistes RealTracks permet la recherche d'informations/bios/liens/listes sur artistes RealTracks. Le nouveau navigateur de fonctions permet à l'utilisateur nouveau ou "tête en l'air" de trouver et d'utiliser facilement la plupart des fonctionnalités/raccourcis/documents à partir d'une seule fenêtre. L'égalisation du tempo permet de changer un morceau rubato enregistré en un tempo fixe. L'étirement audio temps/pitch a été amélioré (Elastique inclus). Il y a des améliorations un peu partout dans le SongPicker, les Intros automatiques avec Basse/drums ou drums seuls, l'extension du nombre de titres avec + 3.400 titres nouveaux, MusicXML, la guitare avec vues "gaucher" et "élève", la fonction glisser-déposer, l'affichage multi-fenêtres de l'Assistant Accord Audio et bien plus encore !

ACHAT / MISE À JOUR, & TÉLÉCHARGEMENT MAINTENANT!

Get Inspired with the Band-in-a-Box® Title Generator!

There can be many triggers that could inspire you to write a song... but what if you're wanting to write a song, and are having trouble finding the inspiration you need?

Jump start your creativity using the Title Generator feature in Band-in-a-Box®.

I love this feature - it delivers some beautiful results!

To access this feature:

Mac: select Edit | Chords | Auto-Generate Song Title menu command (control+shift+S). The song title will appear in the Title window! Repeat the Auto-Generate Song Title command until the program comes up with a suitable title for your song. Band-in-a-Box® will keep generating new titles for as long as it takes to get the right one.

Windows: click on the "Generate Title" button within the main screen of the program and you can choose to "auto-generate" a song title which will appear right in the Title field of your song, or for a more varied selection choose to "generate multiple titles" and you'll be taken to the Title Generator window, which can generate a list of 50 song titles for you!

I've just done this, and won't bother list all 50 here - but the "top 10" I've chosen from my generated list are:
Eloquent Laugh
Statuesque Luck
Considering a Rainbow
Brief Fling, Acknowledged
Something for a Sandpiper
Happy Runaround
Cheatin' Skies
Then Came a Rose
The Mention of My Love
Eternal Raincheck

Give it a try!

The resource for this feature can also be edited, allowing you to customize the results.
(to do this, review the file TITL1.TXT within the BB Data folder.)

Band-in-a-Box® - Loops-with-Style PAK Video Tutorial

Wondering how to use the Loops-with-Style PAKs in your songs?

Check out our latest video, where we explain installing Loops-with-Style PAKs, locating the content within the proram, and how to use them in either in Band-in-a-Box® or in other DAWs - Watch the video...

Learn about the Styles included, applying the Loops, how the Loops will work with your song settings, using these Loops in other DAWs, and more!

Note: this video was made using the Windows version, however the steps are the same for Mac.

Share Your Love for Band-in-a-Box®!

Want everyone to know how much you enjoy Band-in-a-Box? Submit a Video Testimonial today, and when we share it on our website and YouTube channel, we'll send you a FREE Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK hard drive!

Check out some of the great Video Testimonials we've already received here.

For more information on this offer, click here.

Band-in-a-Box® 2020 German for Mac is Here!

Es gibt über 50 neue Funktionen in Band-in-a-Box® 2020! Es gibt Verbesserungen der RealTracks (weicher klingende Vokal RealTracks, RealTracks Verdickung, "Find-a-Sub" RealTracks und MultiRiffs). Die meisten RealDrums haben jetzt RealCharts (mit genauer Drum-Notation). Es gibt einen neuen RealTracks-Künstler-Browser, um Infos/Bios/Links/Listen von RealTracks zu allen Künstlern zu finden. Ein neuer Feature-Browser ermöglicht es dem neuen oder "vergesslichen" Benutzer, die meisten Features/Hotkeys/Dokumente von einem einzigen Fenster aus leicht zu finden und zu benutzen. Die Funktion Tempoausgleich ermöglicht es, einen aufgenommenen Rubato-Song in ein festes Tempo zu ändern. Verbesserte Audio-Zeit/Tonhöhen-Dehnung (Elastique) enthalten. Es gibt SongPicker-Verbesserungen, Auto-Intros für Bass/Drums oder nur Drums, 3.400 zusätzliche Titel, MusicXML-Verbesserungen, "Linkshänder"- und "Studentensicht"-Gitarre, Ziehen & Ablegen -Verbesserungen, Audio-Akkord-Wizard mit mehreren Fenstern und mehr!

KAUF/UPGRADE, & DOWNLOAD JETZT!

With Band-in-a-Box® Your Band is MASSIVE!

Open Band-in-a-Box®, and you're instantly gaining access to at least 300 different RealTracks played by real live musicians!

There's more than 140 Artists that contribute to the 2,900+ RealTracks available! Our RealTracks and RealDrums Artists are top studio musicians, and the RealTracks they play will add an amazing human element to your projects!

Now is a great time to have these musicians handy!

-----

Band-in-a-Box® Pro includes over 300 RealTracks in 100 bands! Windows | Mac
Band-in-a-Box® MegaPAK includes over 500 RealTracks in 300 bands! Windows | Mac
Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK includes over 2,900 RealTracks! Windows | Mac
Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK+ includes over 2,900 RealTracks! Windows | Mac
Band-in-a-Box® Audiophile Edition includes the uncomplessed files for over 2,900 RealTracks! Windows | Mac

Learn more about using RealTracks in your Band-in-a-Box® projects: Windows | Mac

Forum Stats
32841 Members
68 Forums
66126 Topics
561473 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
uhv14437@cuoly.c, Chris52, EyalSavab, Christmas Music, Calceus

32841 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
eddie1261 175
VideoTrack 154
MarioD 135
Planobilly 135
Janice & Bud 124
Pipeline 119
Al-David 112
Jim Fogle 109
Matt Finley 108
floyd jane 96
Today's Birthdays
gfclef, Hans Hess, Henry Nurdin, Jerry Duguet