You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#510995 - 12/19/18 11:07 AM [User Showcase] I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5057
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5057
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore

This WIP is mixed a bit loud - FYI

This is a WIP but thought I'd ask for some comments and input before rerecording. I think when the lead guitar riff ends, I should have gone directly to the 2nd verse rather than the chorus. The other issue I wonder about is the drums - I've dropped the high EQ quite a bit but still the brushes really dominate the right channel more than I'd like, particularly in the choruses. But when I bring the high EQ down much more, the drums start to sound pretty mundane. Open to any thoughts/suggestions. And I won't mix it as loud when I redo it! Thanks in advance.

Alan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

****** Song Summary - I Just Don’t Want To Hurt Anymore *************

Key=Fm , Tempo 70, Length (m:s)=4:47

Style is _MY_AMP.STY (My Woes Blues w Amplitube Bass)

RealTracks in style: 1922:Bass, Electric, TexasBluesRockSlow12-8 Sw 060
RealTracks in song: 2361:Piano, ElectricVintage, Rhythm MotownSlowBluesy12-8John Sw 085
RealTracks in style: 2674:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm Blues12-8Brent Sw 065
RealTracks in song: 1923:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm TexasBluesRockSlow12-8Brent Sw 060
RealTracks in song: 2686:Guitar, Electric, Soloist BluesSlow12-8BrentSimple Sw 065
RealTracks in song: ~571:Harmonica, Background Blues Monday Sw 065
RealDrums in Song: BluesRock128^5-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



I Don’t Want To Hurt Anymore
(c) 2018 Alan D. David, BMI / Diana Randall, BMI

(v1)
Red tears spilling out my eyes, from this heart you cut in two
All these restless nights alone, I owe them all to you
You showed your true colors, the day said I do
You ain’t never settled down, and I know you ain’t been true
I could never trust you girl, I’ve come to know your kind
I’m gonna have to make a change, before I lose my mind

CHORUS
It’s time for you to pack your things, I ain’t taking any more
Make sure you got everything, before you find the door
Don’t wanna hear no promises, we been down that road before
I just wanna hear your footsteps, as you’re walkin’ cross the floor
No second chance, no make-up dance, you’re rotten to the core
I just don’t want to hurt anymore

INSTRUMENTAL

REPEAT CHORUS

(v2)
A man can only take so much, before he draws the line
When he’s reached his limit, and there ain’t no nother time
Adios goodbye auf wiedersehen, do I need to make a sign
Be sure to take your cheatin’ ways, don’t leave anything behind
Don’t forget the broken dreams, and the promises undone
No way you coulda hurt me worse, if you’d shot me with a gun

REPEAT CHORUS
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#511030 - 12/19/18 01:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3665
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3665
Loc: Sacramento, California
Those sound like cymbals, not brushes. OK, maybe brushed cymbals. Heck, it might even just be an opening and closing hihat. wink

To reduce the cymbals, you could double the section of the track with cymbals with a drum track without cymbals. Then EQ the cymbals down, and bring in some of the non-cymbals track to make up for some of the lost high-end.

If you don't like the brushes panned that far, you could reduce the brush track to mono, either by converting the stereo to mono, or just splitting off the right track. Then you can adjust the panning so it's more centered.

There are some more sneaky approaches, but this might do it for you.
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#511036 - 12/19/18 01:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8794
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8794
Loc: Florida
"Adios goodbye auf wiedersehen, do I need to make a sign
Be sure to take your cheatin’ ways, don’t leave anything behind"

HA! Singin' the Blues! An Anti-Love Song... a nice write (well, maybe "nice" is the wrong word smile )

The BAND sounds good.. The solos are sweet! The cymbals are "weird" - they sound like a reversed sample. Next time I have BIAB open, I'll check that out (hard to imagine they were meant to sound like that).

I enjoyed the song!

fj

Top
#511047 - 12/19/18 02:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 06/16/00
Posts: 1944
Loc: Texas
Jim Offline
Expert

Registered: 06/16/00
Posts: 1944
Loc: Texas
The mix & performance sound good on these cheap PC speakers I use...
Everything sounds good...
The only suggestion I might make is choosing the strongest progression of lines on the chorus...
Since each line ends in the same rhyme scheme, you have the opportunity to organize & reorganize the chorus
until you find the a chorus which has the greatest impact...
I've been mentally playing with some possibilities but can't decide...
Maybe others can add their thoughts.
_________________________
Jim
†=☮&♥

Top
#511049 - 12/19/18 02:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 3879
Loc: Sydney Australia
PeterF Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 3879
Loc: Sydney Australia
Alan
An excellent bluesy number. Like floyd I thought the cymbals sounded odd.
When I load the same real track I get quite a different sound.
Perhaps if you have the newest version get the latest update and re-generate the drums?

Peter

Top
#511059 - 12/19/18 02:41 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 08/09/10
Posts: 4440
Loc: New York
rsdean Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/09/10
Posts: 4440
Loc: New York
Alan,

The song and performance is so compelling that the mix to me here is secondary. Having said that, the mix is fine - it almost has a "live" feel to it.

I really enjoyed this one - another winner!

Bob
_________________________
SoundCloud Tracks


Top
#511094 - 12/19/18 04:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 2247
Rustyspoon# Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 2247
Alan, great blues, excellent lyrics!

To my ears, mix is well balanced except, as folks noted for the cymbals... on Intro and Choruses. As FJ said they sound a bit like reversed sample, I can not say it better smile

Cymbals on Verses sound good to my ears.

Best regards,
Misha.

Top
#511123 - 12/19/18 06:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 5360
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Scott C Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 5360
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
I loved this Alan. Very cool vocal and backtrack. Guitar was awesome.

Top
#511241 - 12/20/18 06:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3365
Deryk - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3365
Really well done Alan smile I'm a sucker for the blues vibes, and this definitely scratched that itch. It sounds really rich, and I thought the arrangement sounded really good personally.

Thanks for sharing!
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk

Top
#511245 - 12/20/18 07:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 2022
Loc: Midwest
HearToLearn Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 2022
Loc: Midwest
Ok, first off, the song is GREAT and I love your guitar tones. Man, just awesome.

-----Take this next part as I may be WAY off on. I am listening on a laptop and don't have headphones to really listen.-----

To me, the drums sound fine. The cymbals sound a little different, but I don't know if even as drummer I would have noticed it. Listening from the laptop, it almost ads to the groove a little. It's like if you could have an open/close feature on a ride cymbal instead of the hats. I have heard drummers play similar to this OR compression sometimes makes that happen. I'm not sure the case here; but I wouldn't have thought anything of it; listening as I just did several times. I listen without reading comments first and didn't think anything but it sounded great. Then read the comments and went back with the cymbals in mind. I'm still ok with it.

Another thing to consider is, sometimes, something like that ads to the uniqueness of a song. It's gives it it's own character. Just a thought. If you can't get passed it though; you never will. Then it needs to be changed.

Great song, either way, to me.
_________________________
C.Aaron Madison
I often get asked how to pronounce my name.
"Ma-Duh-Sn" J/K wink
As people have left the "." out so many times, "Caaron" has become the norm of it. Still said as the "." was there though. smile


Top
#511252 - 12/20/18 07:28 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 12/27/14
Posts: 625
Loc: France
Chris37 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 12/27/14
Posts: 625
Loc: France
Hi Alan,
This blues is very pleasant to listen to.
All seems so easy ! But I know that's a lot of work to reach this excellent level. Congratulations. Christian

Top
#511256 - 12/20/18 07:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 02/03/16
Posts: 1246
Loc: Germany
Crossroads Offline
Expert

Registered: 02/03/16
Posts: 1246
Loc: Germany
Holá, hello and hallo, dear Alan,

I cannot add anything substantial to that 'cymbal issue' except that I would consider replacing it - it sounds very artificial to me. Too artificial for that otherwise fantastic blues number: great vocals, like always awesome guitar work, and if that subject isn't custom made for a good moanin' blues number...

Another gem in my personal 'Alan collection'!

Stefan

Top
#511265 - 12/20/18 08:15 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 12/23/17
Posts: 742
Loc: Alabama
cliftond Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 12/23/17
Posts: 742
Loc: Alabama
Great song Allan, vocal is a standout, guitar is nailed, great band here. Cliff

Top
#511277 - 12/20/18 08:30 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 2360
Loc: Middletown, PA.
44kfl Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 2360
Loc: Middletown, PA.
Love the overall sound

everything is mixed well

great write and cool song

Merry Christmas,

Kenny

Top
#511285 - 12/20/18 08:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 3503
Loc: Ontario, Canada
BlueAttitude Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 3503
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Well first of all, a good song! Guitar sounds great, playing all the right lines. Did you comp it?

You already have lots of comments on the mix already, bottom line for me is the song is solid, and I enjoyed the listen very much.

Loved the "Adios goodbye auf wiedersehen" line!

Top
#511289 - 12/20/18 08:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 2052
Loc: Finland
jannesan Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/29/06
Posts: 2052
Loc: Finland
Very nice blues with powerful lyrics. Your voice just gets better smile

Janne
_________________________
Hear My Music:

Soundcloud
YouTube


Top
#511731 - 12/21/18 06:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5057
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5057
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Thanks to all of you! Would love to answer each of you personally but time is is in short supply at the moment. Di and I wish all the talent on these PG Music Forums and terrific Christmas and hope 2019 is your best year ever.

I redid the drum track. Can't explain why the cymbals turned out as they did the first time- I didn't fx them in any way other than the BIAB indigenous PG Dymanics. I used as totally different track. I changed it from a Blues Rock track to Rock Swing track. Sounds quite a bit better, I think.

Merry Christmas to everyone from both of us.

Alan & Di
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#511926 - 12/22/18 11:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 5949
Loc: Davis, CA
Greg Johnson Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 5949
Loc: Davis, CA
Some cool stuff here Alan!! I like the opening, the verse vibe, and the mix. The melody and chords switch from blues feel to a happier country feel which hits me kind of strange....not sure it doesn't work but it is hard to tell on first listen. Cool stuff!! Take care. Greg

Top
#512051 - 12/22/18 06:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 3080
Loc: Missouri
Torrey Bliss Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 3080
Loc: Missouri
Sounds great Alan! There are some unexpected chord melody changes in here that really caught my attention! Great job! Thanks, Torrey
_________________________
Torrey Bliss
www.soundcloud.com/torrey-bliss



Top
#515862 - 01/06/19 10:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: I Just Don't Want To Hurt Anymore [Re: Al-David]
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 16748
Loc: Australia
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 16748
Loc: Australia
Hi Alan,

Wow!!!! What a song. Such skillful lyric and music writing and singing that sits so very, very comfortably amongst the music.

I love the opening phrase... "Red tears spilling out my eyes", that's pretty intense imagery and set the stage perfectly for what was to follow.

I really enjoyed this.

Best wishes to you and Di for 2019!
Noel
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top


PG Music News
RealBand 2021 is Here!

There are exciting additions to RealBand 2021! RealBand is now a 64-bit application, and supports SIMD features for higher audio playback performance. There is now drum notation support with over 300 additional RealCharts, added cut time notation, time signature improvements, visual transpose, notation enhancements, XML improvements, and more!

RealBand 2021 is included with ALL Band-in-a-Box 2021 purchases... and our upgrade packages are ON SALE until December 31st!

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Learn more about all the new features in RealBand® 2021 for Windows.

Generate RealTracks on Utility Tracks with Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows!

We've just updated the brand-new Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows with the ability to generate RealTracks on Utility Tracks!

Not only can you generate the ENTIRE track from the track menu, complete with RealCharts, you can also generate highlighted sections of the Utility track - and even change it to a completely different RealTracks instrument! With the cross-fades Audio Edit option, the transition will be so smooth - you won't believe your ears!

https://youtu.be/TvJnJHdDVuI

Band-in-a-Box 2021 for Windows users can download this free update patch here.

Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows: New Features Video

It's here! Check out all the new features released with Band-in-a-Box 2021 for Windows with our New Features video.
www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm

Video - 202 New RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows®!


With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2020, we added 202 new RealTracks! There are brand-new RealTracks for Jazz, Blues, Funk, Latin, Pop, Rock, World, Country, Americana & Celtic, and more!

Get the newest RealTracks Sets 353-375 when you purchase the PlusPAK upgrade (ideal for 2020 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+ customers) for just $99 during our special (reg. $129).

Want the entire RealTracks Sets 1-375 collection with over 3,100 RealTracks? They are included with any Band-in-a-Box 2021 for Windows UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Check out our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows® - 202 New RealTracks Overview, which demonstrates the newest RealTracks Sets 329-352.

NEW! Xtra Styles PAK 10 & MultiStyles PAK 1 for Band-in-a-Box®!

We've just released some amazing new Add-ons for Band-in-a-Box® 2020!

Xtra Styles PAK 10 with 50 styles each for Country, Jazz, Rock-Pop, and Folk Celebration! These carefully crafted RealStyles include lo-fi acoustic guitar hip hop, triple-guitar garage rock, a barbeque boom-chick jam, slidin' lazy country blues, bolero and bossa nova fusion, a Gypsy and stride ballad, praise break organ jazz fusion, surfin' folk rock, barn dance old-time stomp 'n' clap, an acoustic folky blues jam, and so much more!

Introducing MultiStyles PAK 1! 30 MultiStyles containing 120 styles - that's a total of 150 Styles! We've included 10 MultiStyles each for Country, Jazz, and Rock-Pop. Our jazz greats MultiStyle allows you to switch between piano and guitar comping, or select from two different solos. Our Jamaican groove selecta allows you to switch from ska at one section to reggae, island groove, or reggae with sax solo at another. A Tex-Mex country MultiStyle allows you to switch between a regular-time and double-time feel. And that's just the beginning. There's so much more in store! Once you dive into these professionally-mixed MultiStyles, you'll wonder how you ever made due with only two substyles per song! Use one substyle for a softer intro, another one for a restrained breakdown, then throw in a different and energetic middle-eight, or change it up with a solo. The possibilities are endless!

And they're ON SALE!

Xtra Styles PAK 10, and ALL our Xtra Styles PAKs, are on sale for $29 (reg. $49) each! Haven't purchased Xtra Styles yet, but now you want them all? The COMPLETE collection of Xtra Styles PAKs 1-10 with over 1,600 RealStyles can be yours for only $199 (reg. $349)! There's also an option to purchase the newest Xtra Styles PAKs 9 & 10 for Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for a bundle price of $49, if you missed out on our previous special! www.pgmusic.com/xtrastyles.php?os=win

Purchase MultiStyles PAK 1 for only $19 (reg. $29)! Adding the 2021 49-PAK to your Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows purchase? No need to buy this separately, MultiStyles PAK 1 is included with it! www.pgmusic.com/addons.multistyles.php?os=win

Mac user? Click here for your OS specific product announcement.

Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows is HERE!

Just released: Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows with over 50 new features, 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, Bonus RealDrums "Singles," RealDrums transcriptions, MultiStyles PAK 1, Xtra Styles PAK 10, and more!

We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2020- save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows Upgrade!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2021 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 40 Unreleased RealTracks and the just-released MultiStyles PAK 1) upgrade it to the 2021 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows at: www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm

Band-in-a-Box® for Mac - Audio Chord Wizard Overview Video

The Audio Chord Wizard included in Band-in-a-Box is a powerful feature that automatically figures out the chords from an audio file and imports them (as well as the audio) into Band-in-a-Box®, along with the bar lines, key, tempo, and fine tuning!

Check out this video, where we explain how to use the Audio Chord Wizard: Click here to watch...

Read more about the Audio Chord Wizard within our online program manual, here. Better yet - give it a try and see/hear for yourself how intelligent this feature is!

Forum Stats
33303 Members
67 Forums
66513 Topics
569793 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
pickitup, Jan E.A.V., Dhcousins, LinhForex, Wmpf

33302 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Matt Finley 292
Pipeline 268
VideoTrack 190
Rob Helms 174
CaptainMoto 146
eddie1261 130
MarioD 129
jpettit 128
jford 127
PeterGannon 119
Today's Birthdays
bluestu, J. Rich, Mel Laraway