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#527028 - 03/02/19 07:44 AM [User Showcase] Maybe
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Hi there,

Some months ago I posted a song here and got very nice reactions. This should have encouraged me to send more numbers, but I did not post more songs. Why that was, I don't know. Yes, wait... I do know. I did not know what I can ask from you, beside listening to that song.
And here I am again. With another song I recently made. It's called Maybe. And I still want you to listen to it, but I have question as wel.
I made the song in BiaB and the style is called Wounded, although I changed some of the instruments.
What I noticed is that all instruments stop where you want them too (luckily), but if you want them to play just a little longer to avoid 'hard cuts' I can't see how to do that other than in a DAW. Although not a really tough point, I do hope one of you can tell if that can be avoided. The chord-options button does noy do this job.
Let me know if you know.
And give me your opinion of the song if you want. As honest as possible.

https://soundcloud.com/user-296497130/maybe

Thanks anyway and a nice weekend
Hans Berkhout
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#527030 - 03/02/19 08:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Hans, I really enjoyed your song, it's very good! The vocal on this is outstanding and the acoustic guitar work in this is perfect. I don't know if I understand your question correctly or not, but if it's about the held chord at the end, I have found that if I will set the ending bar about 8 measures past the last held chord, this will cause (not always but most of the time) the chords to sustain longer. I then edit out that last chord which will sound 8 measures later and do a fade of the sustained chord in my DAW. Sorry if this isn't what you meant. Thanks, Torrey
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#527038 - 03/02/19 08:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Good song...
Your voice sounds really good...
I enjoyed listening!
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#527055 - 03/02/19 10:27 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Thanks Jim and Torrey. I almost blush (a little)about your compliments.
And Torrey, it is exactly what you wrote. But my English is insufficient for these technical matters.
But (the big BUT)I have tried a bit of that as well. The thing is, in BiaB the melody sounds bad and because I record my singing in BiaB it always confuses me. So I thought, maybe (!) there is another solution.

But thanks a lot anyway. You gave me another idea: do what you say and shorten the instruments (if not solo and melody) in the chord-options.
Nice day,
Hans Berkhout
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#527109 - 03/02/19 03:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Hi Birchwood, wowzers! This sounds very full and I really dug the chord progression. That guitar tone is very warm! - Little too much reverb in my humble opinion but if thats' what you were going for fill your boots! Thanks for sharing!
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#527138 - 03/02/19 05:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Hi Hans,

What a really nice song you uploaded for us to hear! I very much liked it! Joe mentioned the reverb, but I think it was fine as it is, but this is obviously a matter of personal taste. smile

About your question, I think Torrey gave you a good answer - I too experiment with how many bars to use in the ending or when (at which bar) to hold a certain instrument, etc. If things doesn't work out then you are right... fix it in your daw.

Thanks a lot for sharing such a nice song!
Will

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#527177 - 03/03/19 12:37 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Very lovely song Hans, I enjoyed my listen a lot and in my own opinion I wouldn't change anything

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#527182 - 03/03/19 01:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Lovely song.
you either have a halo of proximity effect from your mic or the reverb/delay/chorus is creating an additional effect. It smears your vocal a little.
You have a nice vocal tone - it may also be effected by almost clipping or hitting a limiter.
I don't know which.
The vocal does seem a little loud.
Good job avoiding or dealing with essing and plosives though.
Cool song and arrangement.
Well done.
Sorry I can't help you with the issue you asked about.
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#527186 - 03/03/19 01:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Good morning (Dutch time) to you all,

Joe, Will, Furry and Ray C (sounds like a Popgroup) thank you very mutch for your comments.
I am very pleased with your compliments. And Furry, I had the same thing when having a problem. When I was young I had a nice voice and could reach BeeGee-hights easily. But that was way back. Now I had to get used to my 'new' much lower voice. I hated that voice at first. But you must find yourself te songs/melodies that fit with the voice. In your case? Try opera ;-)

And concerning the reverb. That's always a problem, too much, too little. I mostly choose a plate reverb for a middle sized room.
In the DAW I never add reverb (and follow the advise of Will and Furry -a bit-).

And Ray, I use a Gemini II mic from SE and if I sing close to it, it gives that tonal effect. But don't use that in a song where loud singing is needed.

With your compliments in my pocket I will continue making songs and let you hear them, ok?

Nice day,
Hans Berkhout
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#527245 - 03/03/19 12:18 PM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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I like the instrumentation, especially the cello: it accentuates the mood of the song. I enjoyed the melody of the chorus and I like the way you ended the song on the word "alone."

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#527247 - 03/03/19 12:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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I really enjoyed what you did with this song. Thanks for taking the time to post it on the forum!
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#527331 - 03/04/19 07:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Hi Ember and Ezekiel,

Thanks for your comments. Especialy that 'Cheers'.
And to use Ezekiel's remark: not 'alone'.

I like using cello's or violins. It gives more dimensions to a song.
Although, lately I used a harmonica in a song. That was quit a challenge if you are used to the ones I mentioned.
My son didn't like the tone of it, so I made it (Song: Fat Guy, on Soundcloud)

Thanks again,
Hans
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#527403 - 03/04/19 05:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Hans,
First of all, very good tune. I like progression, choice of instruments and vocals!

I might be not the right guy to professionally comment, so consider this is as a honest opinion of average listener. It seems to me that vocals are a bit detached from main backing track. Feels like it resides in high frequency than the rest and a bit loud. I would try fool around with trying to blend vocals better in the mix.

Thank you for posting,

Misha.

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#527482 - 03/05/19 08:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Really well done smile As others mentioned your vocals on this are really superb. Love the progressions, and thought it was nicely catchy as well.

Thanks for sharing!
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#527485 - 03/05/19 08:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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cry Hi Misha,

You were right about the volume. I 'fooled' around with the mixer and volume and now it must fix better in the mix (I think).

Thanks for your suggestion, and of course your compliments as well!

Hans
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#527486 - 03/05/19 08:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Deryk - PG Music]
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Thanks very much,Deryk,

I already wrote I blushed (a bit) because of the reviews, but that colour is still there...

Hans
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#527723 - 03/06/19 06:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Very nice song. Loved the vocal. The guitar was excellent and the cello was such a nice touch. Well done.

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#527767 - 03/07/19 06:48 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Scott C]
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Hi Scott,

I saw your note on my Soundcloud, like this one. Thanks very much.
The cello is always a sensitive instrument, during the ages I believe.
I have the impression more songwriters seem to be using this instrument nowadays, don't you agree? Even with electronic music. So nice times ahead ;-)

Hans
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#527773 - 03/07/19 07:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Birchwood]
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Well done...it hits that nice mellow spot but stays engaging.

I almost always comp endings in my DAW doing what Torrey suggested or using held chords or fades, etc.

Do you have your song setting set to generate a four bar ending? That helps also.

Enjoyed the song!

J&B
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#527787 - 03/07/19 08:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Maybe [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Thanks J&B, for compliments and the hint.
I have set the songsetting to a 2-bars ending. I will try the 4-bars ending, but will that also prevent the abrupt stopping of instruments during the song? For the start of instruments I often start one bar early (especcialy solo's). That works out nice. Not at the end. It's not a big problem, only a littlebit anoying.

I hadn't heard your music till now, I thought. When listening to a couple of your songs just now, I remembered hearing that voice! So nice.

Sincerely,
Hans
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