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#540943 - 06/14/19 09:54 AM [User Showcase] Blue Guitar (with ScottC)
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The Old Guitarist, a painting by Picasso, influenced Wallace Stevens to write The Man With The Blue Guitar which led PK Page to write another poem, The Blue Guitar... which Scott/Robert "sampled" to bring you this song.
I read the poems, borrowed part of one line from Wallace Stevens and went off on my own tangent.
Scott almost instantly contributed his tracks ( if you`re going to work with him be prepared for things to move quickly!).
Production I found tricky once I decided to add strings - your observations on how we did are appreciated.

Blue Guitar

Style is _SPRUCE.STY (Spruce Acoustic Songwriter Pop)

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Scott`s pale blue guitar



Blue Guitar


so many moons
prisoners of the sun
we still turn for you
the waterwheel drinks
while its spun

if there is no ship to see
in passing morning clouds
why do we cling to dreams
like sailors
in the shrouds

I cannot play things as they are
in the sky I hear a blue guitar

as long as I`m spared
strumming colours bending light
sing the rainbow in curved air
the orchestra of birds
takes flight

bells in the rain
a note for joy key for pain
songs beyond sane

I cannot play things as they are
in the sky I hear a blue guitar
in the sky I hear a blue guitar

© Robert Cordrey June 2019

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#540946 - 06/14/19 09:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Excellent work here, reminds me of some early Pink Floyd style.

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#540952 - 06/14/19 10:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Cool write, very good vocal (love it when you bring the harmonies in), and I like that melodic line that Scott is playing throughout and the guitar work overall. Production and mix sounded good to me.

Collaboration at its best, enjoyed the listen!

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#540954 - 06/14/19 10:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Loved the way this one turned out. Also like the photo of my Les Paul you did for the song..

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#540956 - 06/14/19 10:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Robert,

Cool song. A good production. Good vocal - one of your best, I think...

Scott - some of your best work. Really "fits the song" and adds to it...

Another good collaboration for the two of you.

fj

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#540960 - 06/14/19 11:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Robert / Scott,

This is a great collaboration... Love the song, vocal and production.

Some really nice vocal phrasing Robert.

Scott those P90's sound awesome.

Excellent all around!

Bob

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#540967 - 06/14/19 11:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Robert & Scott,
Beautiful and unusual collaboration.
Great production job. I do not have critical opinions, I enjoyed this much!
I did try to listen carefully. One small guitar spike at around 3:12. But that is just a hair. Overall is great.
Thank you for sharing!

Misha.

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#541025 - 06/14/19 05:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: floyd jane]
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hi rorbert and scott great calab love the vocal scott great job on the guitar very engaging thanks eric
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#541067 - 06/15/19 02:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Fantastic progression with some hazy ethnic feel. Lyric, vocal and lead continued and joined it. A very different and enjoyable package.
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#541082 - 06/15/19 04:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Hi Rob and Scot,

A very interesting song. Nice composition. The way the song progresses is very nice/interesting.
Like it!

Hans
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#541106 - 06/15/19 07:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Very good listen. Thoughtful lyrics, steamy guitar.
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#541118 - 06/15/19 09:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: rsdean]
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Originally Posted By: cliftond
Excellent work here, reminds me of some early Pink Floyd style.


Maybe the moody opening is a bit Pink Floyd - glad you liked our efforts!

Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude


Cool write, very good vocal (love it when you bring the harmonies in), and I like that melodic line that Scott is playing throughout and the guitar work overall. Production and mix sounded good to me.

Collaboration at its best, enjoyed the listen!


Thanks for your comments, Dave. It seemed to work to hold the harmonies until the bridge. Yes, Scott has some intuition about how to play behind vocals... I`m sure he appreciates that coming from you!

Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Robert,

Cool song. A good production. Good vocal - one of your best, I think...

Scott - some of your best work. Really "fits the song" and adds to it...

Another good collaboration for the two of you.

fj


Floyd,

That`s encouraging - thank you!

Originally Posted By: rsdean
Robert / Scott,

This is a great collaboration... Love the song, vocal and production.

Some really nice vocal phrasing Robert.

Scott those P90's sound awesome.

Excellent all around!

Bob


Bob,
Glad you liked this.Especially supportive to get your thumbs up on the vocals.

Robert

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#541119 - 06/15/19 09:41 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Fascinating composition & production...
Undoubtedly one of the more unique works on the showcase...
The vocals, background, & guitar all blend into a mysterious musical painting...
Good collaboration guys...
I really enjoyed the listen!
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#541233 - 06/16/19 05:05 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude


Cool write, very good vocal (love it when you bring the harmonies in), and I like that melodic line that Scott is playing throughout and the guitar work overall. Production and mix sounded good to me.

Collaboration at its best, enjoyed the listen!


Thanks Dave. I isolated Roberts vocal in the head phones and just played along to the melody in Roberts vocal. Glad you liked the song

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#541315 - 06/16/19 06:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Tangmo]
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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Robert & Scott,
Beautiful and unusual collaboration.
Great production job. I do not have critical opinions, I enjoyed this much!
I did try to listen carefully. One small guitar spike at around 3:12. But that is just a hair. Overall is great.
Thank you for sharing!

Misha.



Thank you, Misha- this one happened very rapidly so its possible the mix needs a tweak- I`m glad you enjoyed our collaboration.


Originally Posted By: F.M.M.
hi rorbert and scott great calab love the vocal scott great job on the guitar very engaging thanks eric


Many thanks for those positives, Eric!



Originally Posted By: Tangmo
Fantastic progression with some hazy ethnic feel. Lyric, vocal and lead continued and joined it. A very different and enjoyable package.


Tangmo,
Glad you like that minor/major & back again progression.
Lately I`ve been trying to fine tune a habitual way of writing chord progressions:starting with those I hear when playing behind the melody in my head(for many years that was done & dusted!),I then jot down alternatives using Biab to quickly listen to the changes.Lastly I`ll refer to a chord map to see if what I hear isn`t supposed to work...if I start with the chart things get too predictable for my taste.

Robert

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#541322 - 06/16/19 09:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Robert/ Scott

Really interesting piece - unpredictable. Really enjoyed the way it moved around and the overall prog rock production. Excellent vocal and guitar work.
A top notch collaboration.

Peter

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#541329 - 06/16/19 11:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Originally Posted By: Robertkc
The Old Guitarist, a painting by Picasso, influenced Wallace Stevens to write The Man With The Blue Guitar which led PK Page to write another poem, The Blue Guitar... which Scott/Robert "sampled" to bring you this song.

Interesting backstory.


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Production I found tricky once I decided to add strings - your observations on how we did are appreciated.

I assume the off-kilter feel of the beat was intentional. It has a sort of "twitchy" feeling to it. Given the lyrics, it seems to be what you were going for.

As for the mix - sounds great to me.

You've really got a way to putting a unique spin on a song, even if it's a collaboration. I was going to suggest that you really don't sound like anyone else, when my son walked by and asked "Is that a new Talking Heads song?" jokingly, but now I can't un-hear it in your vocals. wink

But ignoring that, you really do have a unique sound.

Cool song, both of you! smile
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#541348 - 06/17/19 02:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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REALLY cool.
I think the conga intro, (just the uptake hits), is a bit weak and could be either lifted, removed or varied to make is sit better.
The drum kit is too loud for my hearing of the song - it dominates after it enters - particularly the kick & toms - the conga get lost and they are VERY cool.
Excellent collab.
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#541383 - 06/17/19 08:37 AM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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Hello Robert, I admired the overall vibe on this. Fantastic selection of instruments here and the vibe is very appealing. That guitar tone is very warm! Well done!
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#541424 - 06/17/19 12:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: Blue Guitar (with ScottC) [Re: Robertkc]
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cool song!

Scott, excellent playing!

Robert, as usual, a great write

I cannot play things as they are
in the sky I hear a blue guitar

good vocals and mix

Kenny

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