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#574644 - 01/07/20 07:55 AM [User Showcase] See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar)
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See See Rider

The US has the strictest copyright laws in the known universe smile but the law was changed two years ago. Now every January 1 (Public Domain Day!) works that are 75 years old become PD. So, for 2020, songs published in 1924 are no longer copyrighted, are in the PD and artists own 100% of the rights to their arrangement.

BTW, if you are interested in this year's PD entries this article lists them along with other info:
2020 PD Info

To celebrate PD Day and the New Year we chose one of the new PD songs, Ma Rainey’s “See See Rider,” for an early 60’s rock arrangement. It’s been done in many styles…big band, blues, rock, R&B and more. Laverne Baker, The Animals and Mitch Ryder had hits with it.

We asked Peter if he’d like to join in on guitar and, catching us completely by pleasant surprise, he sent three styles including this Chuck Berry like version. The other two were great but the Chuck track seemed to nail that early 60’s garage band feel we were aiming for (and we are big CB fans).

So here’s something a bit different from our bluesy based stuff and we hope you like it. Thanks to BiaB for making this bit of fun possible! Your time to both listen and comment is always appreciated.


© 2020 Public Domain B. Merritt / J. Merritt / P. Fulham

Janice: Lead vocals and background vocals > Rodes NT1 > Scarlett 212 > Logic Pro X EQ > Waves CLA Vocals

Peter: Guitar solos and fills > whatever the man does smile

Drums: RockClassicBrit > Waves CLA Drums
Doubled snare: From the RockClassicBrit kit > Waves CLA Drums
Handclaps: Four tracks > Logic Pro X Chromaverb
Thanks to floyd for the loops.

Bass: RT 1010 BritInvasion > rendered DI > Logic Pro Bass Amp Sim > Waves CLA Bass

Guitar Rhythm: RT499 StoneZ Flash 1
Guitar Rhythm: RT505 StoneZ Flash 2

Piano Rhythm: Midi SuperTrack 1796 BritBluesInvasionJohn > Logic Pro X Grand Steinway sound > Logic Pro X Direction Mixer > CLA Unplugged > Waves Imager

Mastering: Logic Pro X > Logic Pro X EQ > Waves LinMB > Waves L2 Maximizer > YouLean Loudness Meter



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#574651 - 01/07/20 08:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi there J&B plus Peter,

Well, you just can't beat a good bit of Rock&Roll.

Everything kicking and in gear with Janice's signature vocal setting the thing alight.

Great bit of guitar from Peter - that R&R style is in danger of dying out, because so few
people can play it and even less are teaching it. Good to hear it done so well.

Mix sounds good, Bud, but still struggling a bit with my hearing - I've been told it can
take up to six months to get completely right.

Certainly livened up my afternoon.

Cheers, ROG.

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#574670 - 01/07/20 09:52 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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I suspected you guys might jump on this one when I saw it was due to be released to the public domain smile

Nice take on it, I like the rock and roll approach! I've heard many versions over the years, but mostly as a blues both slow and uptempo.

Man, Janice sounds great!

And Peter totally nails those Chuck Berry type licks.

Excellent job on the mix, Bud, sounds great through both the 'phones and the KRK's.

Big smile on my face here, well done you three!
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#574715 - 01/07/20 12:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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There’s a song from my past. I had a listen last night. Awesome version of the song. Super vocal and super mix. Peter just nailed the guitar. Well done
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#574746 - 01/07/20 02:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Originally Posted By: ROG
Hi there J&B plus Peter,

Well, you just can't beat a good bit of Rock&Roll.

Everything kicking and in gear with Janice's signature vocal setting the thing alight.

Great bit of guitar from Peter - that R&R style is in danger of dying out, because so few
people can play it and even less are teaching it. Good to hear it done so well.

Mix sounds good, Bud, but still struggling a bit with my hearing - I've been told it can
take up to six months to get completely right.

Certainly livened up my afternoon.

Cheers, ROG.


Hey ROG, thanks for the kind remarks...and coming from a rock guy they mean even more to us.

Super cool you liked Peter’s guitar. It was perfect for the song we think.

Glad you are back around, love your new song and happy new year!

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#574757 - 01/07/20 02:58 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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I remember this one......I think the Youngbloods did a version in the late 60's. Very cool!! Seems that you guys were waiting for it to go PD....wasted no time! Janice sounds great!! AND Peter does one heck of a Chuck Berry tribute!! Love it!! Take care. Greg

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#574772 - 01/07/20 03:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Love a bit of a chuckle in the morning.
This is fab.
A VERY heavy boogie version of this song was big in Australia in the early 70s.
Well done everyone.
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#574827 - 01/07/20 07:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
I suspected you guys might jump on this one when I saw it was due to be released to the public domain smile

Nice take on it, I like the rock and roll approach! I've heard many versions over the years, but mostly as a blues both slow and uptempo.

Man, Janice sounds great!

And Peter totally nails those Chuck Berry type licks.

Excellent job on the mix, Bud, sounds great through both the 'phones and the KRK's.

Big smile on my face here, well done you three!


Thank you Dave. Yep we discussed this one back in the fall smile I’ve been encouraging Janice to belt one out and I thought she pulled it off really well with only a couple of takes. And a big thanks for the comments on the mix. Our first all Waves production! Peter did nail those licks!

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#574836 - 01/07/20 08:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Janice, Bud, and Peter,

Just freakin' killer. Love the Berry vibe--such a sweet, rocking guitar solo. Can't help but tap the foot and rock the head on this one. Very cool!

Best regards,

Deej

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#574864 - 01/08/20 02:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Tapping my feet and dancing with a BIG smile on my face. Good job!!! Well worth waiting for it to be in the public domain so you guys could do the arrangement! :-) Hats off :-)
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#574867 - 01/08/20 03:08 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: ROG]
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Originally Posted By: ROG
Hi there J&B plus Peter,

Well, you just can't beat a good bit of Rock&Roll.

Everything kicking and in gear with Janice's signature vocal setting the thing alight.

Great bit of guitar from Peter - that R&R style is in danger of dying out, because so few
people can play it and even less are teaching it. Good to hear it done so well.

Mix sounds good, Bud, but still struggling a bit with my hearing - I've been told it can
take up to six months to get completely right.

Certainly livened up my afternoon.

Cheers, ROG.


Rog
Enjoyed being a part of this one. Thanks for commenting on the guitar part. Good luck with the hearing.
Peter

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#574887 - 01/08/20 05:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
There’s a song from my past. I had a listen last night. Awesome version of the song. Super vocal and super mix. Peter just nailed the guitar. Well done


Thanks Scott!

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#574897 - 01/08/20 06:27 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Nice work on this - a great groove, and as someone mentioned earlier you can't beat a solid rock n' roll tune. I love how fast faced and energetic it is.

Thanks for sharing smile
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#574950 - 01/08/20 12:49 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Greg Johnson]
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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
I remember this one......I think the Youngbloods did a version in the late 60's. Very cool!! Seems that you guys were waiting for it to go PD....wasted no time! Janice sounds great!! AND Peter does one heck of a Chuck Berry tribute!! Love it!! Take care. Greg


Yeah, we had it on the radar! Glad you liked it Greg.

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#574954 - 01/08/20 01:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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This is really well done.
You guys have added your own touch to this great tune.
May have ago at it my self.
Congrats to all and thanks for posting.
All the best.Rob4580

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#574983 - 01/08/20 04:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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You & Janice & Peter have done a tremendous job on this tune...
Loved listening to your rendition!

Good work & a great collaboration...
Thanks for making my day so much brighter!
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#574991 - 01/08/20 04:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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For me it is like a new song. I don't think I know the original or maybe I just don't recognize it.

Anyway it is a fabulous song you have recorded here, very true to the Chuck Berry style which I listened a lot to when I was a child... that is how I learned about Rock'n Roll.

The vocal is wonderful, the guitar work great... and the mix is outstanding. Just a perfect track, like so many times before from you guys!

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#575005 - 01/08/20 05:36 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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This is good and bad.

Good- I like what you guys did with that.

Bad- I hate that all my hits will not be protected in 2075.

Ooops........I have no hits..............never mind


Edited by CaptainMoto (01/08/20 06:08 PM)
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#575028 - 01/08/20 09:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Great version, can't go wrong with pipes like that and pro production to boot. I noticed Nessun Dorma is on the list of 2020 PD songs, any chance we'll be hearing a version of that? ; )
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#575052 - 01/09/20 03:24 AM [User Showcase] Re: See See Rider (feat: PeterF on guitar) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi Janice and Bud,

A very nice performed rock and roller, that's for sure!
You gave the song a lot of sparks, Janice.
Listened it several times, while tapping my feet 'though it was still around 10 o'clock.
Must be something wrong with me, I'm afraid.
I enjoyed it,

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