Hi All! I currently record on my old Roland VS-2480, and sometimes use Reaper and EZDrummer2 on my computer along with the VS-2480. Thinking of buying BIAB Pro 2020 but had a few questions: 1. Is there a demo version or is there a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee? 2. Is there a list somewhere of what instruments come with BIAB Pro 2020? I love the chorus vocals I have heard, as well as some of the drum kits, and really could like the pedal steel, mandolin and fiddle. 3. What are the advantages of the Mega Pak and Ultra Pak? What do you get with each of them that are missing from the standard Pro version? 4. Can I bring individual instrument tracks over from BIAB to Reaper with BIAB Pro? That's it for the moment. Thanks in advance for any answers, thoughts and/or advice!
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Hi All! I currently record on my old Roland VS-2480, and sometimes use Reaper and EZDrummer2 on my computer along with the VS-2480. Thinking of buying BIAB Pro 2020 but had a few questions: 1. Is there a demo version or is there a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee? 2. Is there a list somewhere of what instruments come with BIAB Pro 2020? I love the chorus vocals I have heard, as well as some of the drum kits, and really could like the pedal steel, mandolin and fiddle. 3. What are the advantages of the Mega Pak and Ultra Pak? What do you get with each of them that are missing from the standard Pro version? 4. Can I bring individual instrument tracks over from BIAB to Reaper with BIAB Pro? That's it for the moment. Thanks in advance for any answers, thoughts and/or advice!
Firstly, Welcome. 1: There definitely is a 30-day money back guarantee It's listed on this page 2: This depends on the package that you select. The entry level Pro Package is very limited. They are listed on this page. 3: Definitely go for the highest package that fits your budget. To a large degree, the RealTracks are what give the product its greatest asset. Refer to the packages above to compare the product differences. Consider Ultra Pak if possible. 4: You can export from BiaB and undertake further processing in any DAW, including Reaper.
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Thanks for the information! Good stuff! Do you happen to know if the 30 Day Guarantee applies if purchased from an authorized dealer? Second, am I assuming correctly that the purchase price of the Maga Pak includes BIAB Pro? Also, if I purchase the Mega Pak, do they offer an upgrade to the Ultra Pak down the road? Thanks again for your assistance!
2023 BIAB Ultrapak, Reaper, EZDrummer 2 & 3, Roland VS-2480, Tascam 38 Reel to Reel 8-Track
Thanks for the information! Good stuff! Do you happen to know if the 30 Day Guarantee applies if purchased from an authorized dealer? Second, am I assuming correctly that the purchase price of the Maga Pak includes BIAB Pro? Also, if I purchase the Mega Pak, do they offer an upgrade to the Ultra Pak down the road? Thanks again for your assistance!
Yes, as Matt said the core BiaB program is identical in all options with BiaB Pro the entry level option. The only difference is in the number of styles, both MIDI and Realtrack, RealDrums, Realtracks, and other goodies.
So the Mega pak is the Pro pak with a lot more of the above. The Ultra pak contains everything in the Pro and Mega pak plus a lot more. Check this page for more info:
Also generally a new version comes out in early December so you may want to wait until then. This is no guarantee that it will come out then but in previous years it has.
I hope this helps and good luck.
{edit} Yes there are upgrade paths.
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Boots, PG team is very flexible at upgrades/ crossgrades, but as mentioned above it makes more sense to "go for the highest package that fits your budget"
"2. Is there a list somewhere of what instruments come with BIAB Pro 2020? I love the chorus vocals I have heard, as well as some of the drum kits, and really could like the pedal steel, mandolin and fiddle."
I will try to answer this one...
The main muscle of BIAB are Real Tracks and Real Drums. These are NOT cut out samples that you can use in samplers or such. They are actual performances by real artists that recorded content for PG Music. These were recorded very meticulously, most of them even include Shots, Holds, Pushes etc. Real Tracks work by writing out arrangement in program and they will follow chord progression and many other changes that you will/can make. There are great many Real Tracks to choose from of many genres. In my opinion, if you are into traditional music genres like Rock, Pop, Jazz, Country (and whole bunch of others) and looking to make backing tracks or original tune arrangement there is NOTHING better than BIAB as you get a lot of original content recorded by some very talented folks. They do have a lot of modern tracks too and a loop library for different flavors. But again, having said above, BIAB is not a synth.
P.S. Note of caution... PG offers 30 day money back and they stand by their word. In case (for some reason) you get lost or dislike something from first look, I suggest to come back and try it again in a day or two, do not rush to return it. This forum is active and members are very helpful. You will get most of your questions about BIAB answered within a few hours if not sooner. Also, member Pipeline (above) wrote some very cool non-official stuff to further integrate BIAB to Reaper.
Further to the possibility of a new version being released in December, if that does happen, then it may have discounted pricing offered for a limited time. No guarantees, but historically this has occurred.
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Thanks for the information! Good stuff! Do you happen to know if the 30 Day Guarantee applies if purchased from an authorized dealer?
The 30-Day Money Back Guarantee is for products purchased from PG Music Inc. directly. When purchasing Band-in-a-Box from a third party reseller, please refer to their return policy.
Thanks Callie! That helps. Are there any sales planned in the near future, and are you anticipating a 2021 release anytime soon? Thanks
OMG, for the past 20+ years BIAB has released its next yrs version right at or around the first of December. Unless there is something different about 2020 , you will see the big annual sale with the new release in the next couple weeks.
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This post might as well have said "Hey, I don't want to look at the PG Music website at all and see what is offered in various packages, can someone just tell me everything I could find for myself, quite easily?"
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Boy, I had gotten such nice and pleasant advice and direction from everyone here (except for that last one). Thanks to everyone else for the welcome and information. It really helped me navigate what I initially found to be a confusing site. Based on suggestions, I may wait and see when the 2021 version comes out in December. Thanks again all!
2023 BIAB Ultrapak, Reaper, EZDrummer 2 & 3, Roland VS-2480, Tascam 38 Reel to Reel 8-Track
Sorry! I was having a bad morning and it had nothing to do with you. I apologize. The people here on the forums are very friendly and helpful, and I am too usually! It is so close to the usual time that the new version is released it would seem like a good idea to just wait a couple of weeks or so.
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No promises, and no guarantee past practice holds, but if you purchase within 30 days of version 2021 being released, Sales might consider a request to upgrade.
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As Matt says, they are usually pretty good about things if you buy the "old" version so close to the "new" version being released. No promises, but if you talk to sales you might be happy.
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In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
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Here's a small sampling of what XPro Styles PAK 7 has to offer: energetic rock jigs, New Orleans funk, lilting jazz waltzes, fast Celtic punk, uptempo train beats, gritty grunge, intense jazz rock, groovy EDM, soulful R&B, soft singer-songwriter pop, country blues rock, and many more!
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, you will see the big annual sale with the new release in the next couple weeks. 
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