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#635378 - 01/09/21 12:38 PM [User Showcase] I'll Be Gone
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I often include "loops" in my productions.
Sometimes they are just a few added sounds.
Often (for me) they are the drums/percussion (particularly for "modern" sounds).

Another use is to set up a song with a few loops providing the entire backing and then write a lyric over them.
This is typical in today's Pop (and Country).
"Top-line writing" (we did not grow up doing that.... many of today's writers have)
in case you are not familiar with it...
https://www.berklee.edu/careers/roles/top-line-songwritervocal-producer

The new BIAB DAW plug-in can be quite useful for creating loops.
I thought I'd try it out.
Loaded the plug-in into Studio One and created several 4-bar measure loops to construct a track.
(you just keep pasting them in at the appropriate places)
Then went back and wrote a lyric to fit on top...


I'LL BE GONE


The BAND (the loops):

RealTracks in song: ~701:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesSync Ev 085
RealTracks in song: 2430:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm NewOrleansMardiGras Ev16 085
RealTracks in song: 2650:Guitar, Electric, Background DreamyPopBalladFillsBrent Ev 085
RealTracks in song: 2905:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm BrightBluesyPopColin Ev 100
RealTracks in song: 3442:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm BritPsycFunky Ev16 100
1758 Banjo, Rhythm, Pop16ths Ev 085
Royalty free loops (most from Studio One)



(the lyric)

I'll Be Gone

if i didn't have to be
what you expect of me
maybe i'd stop tryin' to change
who i am

that proverbial "new lease"
gotta find a little peace
i'm thinkin' memphis
or maybe birmingham

anywhere but here
i need to get my head clear
find a different direction
and a brand new start

some time to contemplate
just wipe the slate
stop looking for answers
and hide my heart
   
   so don't come looking
   i'll be gone, gone, gone
   you can ask 'til you're blue in the face
   you can search until the cows come home
   i won't be with 'em
   i'll be gone
   i'll be gone

i know a guy not far from macon
who says that he'll be taking
a trip soon
and i can come along if i'm sure

south on 65
or west on 24
one way or another
i'm heading out the door

my pockets full of chamge
it's time to rearrange
the plans i've been followin'
the course i've been on

never been to boston
or there's a cool scene in austin
some new scenery
whatever comes along
   
   so don't come looking
   i'll be gone, gone, gone
   you can ask 'til you're blue in the face
   you can search until the cows come home
   i won't be with 'em
   i'll be gone
   i'll be gone


(the wrap-up).

Hope you enjoy it.
Comments are welcome.

fj

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#635396 - 01/09/21 02:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Well done sir. I really enjoyed the well crafted lyrics.
Great production. Thanks for the link, very interesting.
Rob4580

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#635397 - 01/09/21 02:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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floyd

A most enjoyable and appealing song, great chorus that stays with you.

Nice use of loops which certainly adds to the interest, and very professionally done.

Excellent all round work (the vocal was as usual top notch).

Peter

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#635413 - 01/09/21 03:49 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd,
Catchy and infectious with those strong simple rhymes that make the song so singeable... at least with your very capable vocal skills.
The banjo works really well- adds some country to the feel.
Knowing little about modern songwriting ways I`ll check out the link.
Very enjoyable music.

Robert

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#635420 - 01/09/21 04:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd, as usual you have another hit on your hands.

Nice use of the VST and loops. I gonna have to try that.
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#635442 - 01/09/21 07:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd.

Berklee college is just reinventing the wheel with the cute and clever "topliner" moniker to drum up some buisness.
The modus operandi of music writing/making has shifted from humans to machines. Want a particular sound or sequence ? No problem , there are a zillion free acid loops on the net to cut and paste to your hearts content.
Berklee said “long-term success in this business comes from being able to change with the times….songwriters need to understand that music is always changing.>”
At least Berklee got that right .
Floyd wrote <"Top-line writing" (we did not grow up doing that.... many of today's writers have)>"
I repectfully dissagree . Who hasn't "tapped" the table (beats) while singing a melody in their head?

As for "I'll be gone" , my usual superlatives apply to my favourite songsmith but I will add that you are heading in the right direction smile
respect
Gary.

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#635455 - 01/09/21 10:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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That was very catchy. Well written tune. Music fits the bill perfectly. Good work.
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#635505 - 01/10/21 06:33 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Man, the rhythm is very infectious!

Great song, floyd, that chorus especially stays with you.

Love what you did at the end smile

I really admire the way you are not stuck in the "old" way of doing things and continue to push the sides of the envelope trying new techniques.

And getting great results in doing so!

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#635575 - 01/10/21 12:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi, Floyd !


Absolutely beautiful !
My new Floydfav from now on !
You´re a master of looping
that´s for sure !
This is a masterpiece !
WoWOWOWOW !

Have a Really Good and Safe
New Experimenting Year !!

Stay safe and take
care !

Cheers
Dani

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#635585 - 01/10/21 01:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd, I love it when you venture into pop territory because it puts your versatility on display! Man the cadence of your vocal delivery is catchy! Every single thing you put up is great and you've done it again! T
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#635599 - 01/10/21 02:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi floyd,

What I admire about you is that your compositions are always well done. The melody always so pleasant and I love your lyrics. Well done and very pleasant.

Kindly regards
Take care of yourself.

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#635710 - 01/11/21 06:48 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: PeterF]
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Originally Posted By: Rob4580
Well done sir. I really enjoyed the well crafted lyrics.
Great production. Thanks for the link, very interesting.
Rob4580


Rob - good to see you drop by. Thanks for the nice comments...


Originally Posted By: PeterF
floyd

A most enjoyable and appealing song, great chorus that stays with you.

Nice use of loops which certainly adds to the interest, and very professionally done.

Excellent all round work (the vocal was as usual top notch).

Peter


Thanks, Peter. As always...I appreciate that...

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#635749 - 01/11/21 09:21 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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I love this. The harmony is superb and the I like the guitars, overall a great song!!

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#635936 - 01/12/21 05:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: Robertkc]
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Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Floyd,
Catchy and infectious with those strong simple rhymes that make the song so singeable... at least with your very capable vocal skills.
The banjo works really well- adds some country to the feel.
Knowing little about modern songwriting ways I`ll check out the link.
Very enjoyable music.

Robert


Thanks, Robert.
"Catchy and infectious with those strong simple rhymes that make the song so singeable"
...does a good job of describing what much of this style of writing is aiming at doing...
The link I provided was just a quick find (first thing that came up). There are likely better discussions of the form elsewhere - and some good examples on Youtube (I suppose I should have found those to post, as well...)

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#635973 - 01/12/21 09:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Every time I comment on of your songs there is a huge smile on my face brought on by the music in my ears, Floyd. Really quite amazing what you've accomplished here, Sensei (or what3ever the equivalent is for master music teacher). Outstanding example of unmatched creativity.
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#636004 - 01/12/21 11:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: Torrey Bliss]
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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Floyd, I love it when you venture into pop territory because it puts your versatility on display! Man the cadence of your vocal delivery is catchy! Every single thing you put up is great and you've done it again! T


Hi Floyd ...

I fully agree with all Torrey said. Versatility is a good thing. I weave in and out of various genres as the mood strikes. In my opinion, there's not all that much bad music out there - just some of it isn't presented as good as it could be.

Love everything about this. And that ending is so cool!

IO write some songs in a similar manner. I often let the percussions and bass line set the direction and add and subtract various other instruments until I get the sound I want. If it's conducive to a vocal, I'll then see what i can do about that. I haven't the faintest clue how to bring in a third party loop. I just work with whatever BIAB has to offer.

Anyway, this is a terrific listen - loved the outro! Excellent work. Take care and have a tremensou 2021.

Alan & Di
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#636079 - 01/12/21 05:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Dear Mr. Floyd. From your description you make it sound like you did the whole thing in half and hour or less. A true master of the art when you make it look easy and give out a few hints so we can all jump in and take a spin.
Love it love it love it.


Edited by Marty Ricciotti (01/12/21 05:34 PM)

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#636102 - 01/12/21 07:19 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Great song with a lot of energy that suits the theme of wanderlust. As always, a beautiful production. Had me humming it, that's a good sign.

I like the Big Fish loops, they inspire me. But they're expensive.
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#636103 - 01/12/21 07:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Really well done in LOOPland. I can't edit them well enough to bother.
Excellent lyric & melody.
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#636133 - 01/12/21 10:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: I'll Be Gone [Re: floyd jane]
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Another masterclass, Floyd. Toe-tapping goodness.
Regards,
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