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Simon.
re drivers mc....of course.
actually if you look in tips and tricks forum ive a thread there listing the interfaces with multiclient asio drivers.
includeing focusrite as i find out info.
also listed there are behr umc range also mc asio drivers.
maybe its the older behrs that used asio4all.
if you doubt me check on kvr audio re the newer umc range.

as you know this info is often difficult to find for some odd
reason.
this thread was meant to be just interfaces generally used by pg users to help new folks.
and i started the tips thread just focusing on interfaces with mc drivers.

ps. one reason i like the audients is each channel on my interface...
phsntom 48 can be switched on and off...
im leery to change to a pricier upscale interface as the audient has been a breeze day in/out....also what impresses me is they are open to new ideas. ive had some interesting exchanges with them.

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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
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I've owned about 6 different interfaces and all were fine for any my audio apps. I'm new to BiB but I'm using a Zoom L8 as my interface now and it works great.

I did a lot of research and testing over the years and for the most part, if the company produces a proper ASIO driver the device will work. But some drivers are better code than others and we all figure that out and that the top sellers seem to have stable drivers. Ones reported to be iffy are Mackie and Akai and a few off brands that were forgettable.
I just compiled a list of all the 2x2 interfaces that were posted on Sweetwater as well as a few that were not. I listed them from lowest price to highest. The only ones that didn't have ASIO drivers were the 2 cheapest Behringers and the Art's. Then be carful because the M Audio was the least expensive at $50 but is only 16 bit. Then I found out that Presonis have pretty terrible pre amps as compared to most other.
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thanks for taking the time to post cactus.
while im at it can anyone confirm the new 4th gen scarletts 2i2 have global 48 volts phantom on or off for both channels but not independently ?

one reason i like the audient is each channel can have 48 v
on or off independantly of the other.

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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb.)
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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
while im at it can anyone confirm the new 4th gen scarletts 2i2 have global 48 volts phantom on or off for both channels but not independently ?

one reason i like the audient is each channel can have 48 v
on or off independantly of the other.

om. 🇨🇦. 🇬🇧
Don't have a 4th gen, but photos show a single 48v button so I assume it's like my 3rd gen and is global. My 3rd gen 18i20 is similar, but has separate buttons for ch1-4 and ch5-8. Exactly the same as my Audiobox 1818VSL too, it's quite common on all but the high end interfaces. My old Fireface 800 could turn on and off 48v per channel, but it was all controlled through software as there are no physical switches on it, and my old MOTU 896HD had a switch per channel.


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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
thanks for taking the time to post cactus.
while im at it can anyone confirm the new 4th gen scarletts 2i2 have global 48 volts phantom on or off for both channels but not independently ?
Not independently.


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Gordon thanks for info.
sorry i didnt thank you before ..been getting eye surgery.
one of the rhings i like about my audient is each channel
has its own 48v switch.

also i notice now more mics are coming out with built in boosters...usefull for low gain interfaces eg shure sm7 mics and others .
btw still loving my mini pc stunning low dpc latency.
handles all i throw at it so far. boots into win 11 and bb and rb in a few secs. Generating bb tracks is blinkin fast in bb 2024.
thanks for turning me onto low cost mini pc.s.
very impressed...saves me useing gigundous desktops or silly often high dpc laptops.

happiness.

om

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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb.)
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Originally Posted by justanoldmuso
Gordon thanks for info.
sorry i didnt thank you before ..been getting eye surgery.
one of the rhings i like about my audient is each channel
has its own 48v switch.

also i notice now more mics are coming out with built in boosters...usefull for low gain interfaces eg shure sm7 mics and others .
btw still loving my mini pc stunning low dpc latency.
handles all i throw at it so far. boots into win 11 and bb and rb in a few secs. Generating bb tracks is blinkin fast in bb 2024.
thanks for turning me onto low cost mini pc.s.
very impressed...saves me useing gigundous desktops or silly often high dpc laptops.

happiness.

om
I'm starting to get the first signs of cataracts. Not yet causing me any problems, but I guess that's only a matter of time.

In theory(!) it doesn't matter whether or not the phantom power is present as non-powered mics just don't use it, but in practice there's a rather higher risk of loud pops. My Saffire controls phantom in blocks. On the Ui24R I think it has individual phantom control on every input, as I guess it should as a mixer rather than just a sound module.

Yes I've noticed the SM7 now comes with a built-in preamp option.

I guess some of the 'deafer' mics were designed presuming that performers know how to project their voices properly, but so many users wouldn't even know what that means. frown Ho Hum.


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MARCH 2024.

to simplify things from now on as new audio interfaces come out…as i find new ones having useful features I will update this thread in the tips and tricks forum.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=718708#Post718708

in addition when it comes to my recommendations re how to buy a pc suitable for music production OR if someone has problems using an existing pc for music production…and my recommendations…please see this thread in the tips and tricks forum.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=795663#Post795663

Hopefully the above will help as follows..

1.. people new to music production and pg trying to make audio interface and pc and ancilliary gear buying decisions from the huge array of products on the market. thus saving them money and operational problems.
2..existing users involved in music production who might be encountering problems with their current pc and/or audio interface.
3..existing users looking to upgrade from an old clunker pc to a new pc and/or user interface.
thus saving them money too.

the reason why i started the above two threads is often people aren't aware of this info and/or it's spread out all over the net. so the idea is to save people time searching for it.

I hope this helps further and I wish happiness to all.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 03/21/24 06:52 AM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb.)
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