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#648075 - 03/23/21 06:34 AM [User Showcase] Lovers' Secrets
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I heard this cool guitar riff and wondered if I could reproduce it.
I used the Ample Martin vst (free).
Once I had it, I thought I might as well write a song with it...



LOVERS' SECRETS

we should have an "our song"
we should have an "our cafe"
"our look" that we exchange each time we touch
we should have that night each week
curled up on the couch, i rub your feet
we watch those movies that we both love so much

   things that only lovers have
   things that only lovers do
   moments that only lovers share
   those little lovers' secrets between me and you

a funny story 'bout how we met
a joke that only you and i get
a special place we call our own deep in the park
a look that says it's time to leave
a dream that only we believe
and names we call we other only in the dark

   things that only lovers have
   things that only lovers do
   moments that only lovers share
   those little lovers' secrets between me and you

we're not that far away
i know someday soon we're gonna say
we share...

   things that only lovers have
   things that only lovers do
   moments that only lovers share
   those little lovers' secrets between me and you
   let's share lovers' secrets between me and you




Greg Johnson suggested a bridge instead of the original guitar solo I had.
That worked. Thanks, buddy!


The BAND bits:

RealTracks in song: 3502:Bass, Electric, NashvilleRadioBalladA Ev16 075
MIDI SuperTracks in song: 2066:Piano, Rhythm NewAgeAnswers Ev16 110
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RealDrums [in Song:ShakerSlow16ths: a: ShakerSlow16thsb: ShakerSlow16ths
Other single drum hits
Harmonies created in RealBand using Helicon harmony generator. And I sang one.
Acoustic guitar programmed using Ample Guitar M Lite II.


Comments welcome.
Thanks for listening.

fj

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#648104 - 03/23/21 09:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd,
First thing that strikes me is how good your voice sounds in the upper register ( especially with that nice depth the blend of harmonies gives).
The guitar arpeggio is hypnotic in a gentle way and you`ve programmed it very well- wish I could do that- maybe I`ll checkout that Ample guitar thing.
A good write - lots of lines that resonate in the "our"list:

"a dream that only we believe
and names we call each other only in the dark"

Very good!

Robert

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#648108 - 03/23/21 10:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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That's pretty cool. The acoustic VST sounds pretty convincing the way you are using it. Did you mouse the notes in or play them? Or create them some other way? That fingerpicking style is pretty decently convincing to what a real picker would do. It sounds pretty decent in the mix. The song is well done. Nice writing and nice selection of instrumentation. I've noticed you're exploring the softer side of things recently. Cool stuff you're doing there.
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#648128 - 03/23/21 12:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Always enjoy your work, but this has to be one of your best. Track, lyrics, vocals, mix - just magic.

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#648255 - 03/24/21 06:21 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: Robertkc]
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Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Floyd,
First thing that strikes me is how good your voice sounds in the upper register ( especially with that nice depth the blend of harmonies gives).
The guitar arpeggio is hypnotic in a gentle way and you`ve programmed it very well- wish I could do that- maybe I`ll checkout that Ample guitar thing.
A good write - lots of lines that resonate in the "our"list:

"a dream that only we believe
and names we call each other only in the dark"

Very good!

Robert



Thanks, Robert. I often wonder if that upper register "works". You should definitely try the Ample guitar. It has a great sound. It's not hard to add simple picking patterns manually. And there is a library of pattern (though I have not used any of them).

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#648258 - 03/24/21 07:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Very impressed with that acoustic guitar vst! Sounds real to me. I'm going to check that out shortly.

Vocal sounds great, harmonies too, especially the chorus section.

Another good song, floyd, I'm a fan.

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#648287 - 03/24/21 09:24 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Man.............you keep hitting the mark with your songs Floyd!

This has a nice unique groove that makes it so nice to listen to.

You topped yourself with the vocals.

EXCELLENT

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#648292 - 03/24/21 09:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Man, I admittedly haven't been here in a while. I pop in and use the jukebox; but haven't really "been here."

I thought I would listen to a few throughout the day and happen to see you posted this not long ago! VERY cool!

THEN

I gave it a listen. Man, this song is beautiful in every sense. A lot of what I would say I've said about your other songs. Your attention and application are both at those same high levels, however you manage to have variation at the same time which keeps everything new!

If you haven't sung in your higher register much, you've been squandering a real gift. I absolutely loved it. I'm not just comparing it to your other songs either. If I never heard you sing before, it still sounds fantastic!

You managed to make those harmonies work REALLY well too!

I simply can't write a short reply to your works ever. I am holding back SO much!

I'll just sum it up as this a truly great song in EVERY aspect.

(still wanting to say more...lol)

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#648314 - 03/24/21 11:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi FloyD Wow great vocals on this tune really great job on all of it you really got control of biab you make it work for you so well loved it !!! thanks Eric
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#648389 - 03/24/21 08:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
I heard this cool guitar riff and wondered if I could reproduce it.
I used the Ample Martin vst (free).
Once I had it, I thought I might as well write a song with it...

Ha! Sort of like saying "I bought some tires, and I figured I may as well build a car to go with them."

I normally don't like to look at lyrics first, but for reasons uninteresting to this narrative, I read them first this time.

Man, you know how to write solid lyrics. laugh

Clearly sung, with vocals front and center. Yes, even in front of the guitar riff. wink

Jumps right into harmony. It sounded like Helicon, but it had me wondering, because yep - you did at least one of those tracks yourself.

I expected drums on the second verse, but real sparse use of the kick, and the drops out at the start of the final chorus. Making more with less. The hihat gets, what.. four taps? And there's some reverse sound coming in at 3:00?

So - nice attention to details, subtle arrangement to keep everything clear, excellent fj vocal... what a treat. smile
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#648394 - 03/24/21 10:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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floyd,

Acoustic guitar riffs by Ample Guitar M Lite II are really cool.
Harmonies by Helicon harmony generator are also great.
You are always doing various experiments with your music production.
I'm always impressed with them.
Your vocals are wonderful as usual.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

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#648400 - 03/24/21 10:55 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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floyd

Lovely work. The acoustic is very pretty, and well "programmed".

The harmonies are excellent.

Top notch vocals throughout, beautiful set of lyrics and a wonderful melody.

Another in a long line of top notch songs.

Peter

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#648446 - 03/25/21 07:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd
Nice.


Edited by Gary Weder (03/29/21 03:12 AM)
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#648453 - 03/25/21 07:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
That's pretty cool. The acoustic VST sounds pretty convincing the way you are using it. Did you mouse the notes in or play them? Or create them some other way? That fingerpicking style is pretty decently convincing to what a real picker would do. It sounds pretty decent in the mix. The song is well done. Nice writing and nice selection of instrumentation. I've noticed you're exploring the softer side of things recently. Cool stuff you're doing there.


Thanks, Herb. The acoustic "programming" was done by mouse. Thanks fo r listening.

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#648462 - 03/25/21 08:52 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd,

A song to to stay silent with. Beautiful!
Only a guitar and these vocals.
I enjoyed the harmonies in the vocals very much.
I read almost everyone wrote this too, so I think you have to believe them all.
Or at least me.

I'm impressed, but I won't say one of your best. That has still to come!

Hans
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#648485 - 03/25/21 10:24 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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I loved this song Floyd. Super vocal. Very cool lyric. Intro was was excellent. I would have never thought that acoustic was a vst. Was perfect for the song. Well done

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#648506 - 03/25/21 01:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd ...

Hypnotic in the best of ways. Wonderful, delicious vocals!!! The simplicity of the backing tracks gently supports the excellent vocal. And talk about a romantic lyric! This is romantic in the sweetest way. You can make the simplest ideas and thoughts sound so rich and full.

If for some mysterious reason I had to listen to but one song all day ... this would be my choice.

Best to you & yours. Take care ...

Alan
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#648556 - 03/25/21 06:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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The 1st question that popped into my mind was "Why program the acoustic when he plays so well?"
Then I figured it was a case of "..because I can..".
That's my little side bar to self.
Lovely song lovely arrangement and texture.
You've focused on the intimate, small moments and things that actually mean a lot to the participants while your vocal brings this listener in from being a voyeur to part of the story.
There was one kick drum hit that seemed odd but it didn't when I re listened.
Excellent.
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#648563 - 03/25/21 07:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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Another superb song. Such a clear recording You have the process down pat. Lovely song. Well written. Instrumentation is great. I like it.
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#648610 - 03/26/21 04:34 AM [User Showcase] Re: Lovers' Secrets [Re: floyd jane]
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No doubt, excellence continues to be delivered. Greg's input certainly has been advantageous.

Vocally sensational including the multi-part over-dubs.

The simplistic production within minimal instrumentation gives this song color and depth. A perfect selection. Most excellent indeed.
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