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#666059 - 07/28/21 05:36 PM [User Showcase] Angelic Dreams
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Angelic Dreams

The title says it all.

BiaB Style - Rendevous - Arpeggiated Ballad
Tempo - 60 bpm

I deleted the drums
Bass = Kontakt-Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Ensemble - 2x bass
Piano - Kontakt - Solid State Strings
Guitar - Kontakt - nylon string guitar
Guitar (copied track) - Kontakt - American Zither
Strings - EastWest - symphonic choir

I am playing the following via my MIDI keyboard controller:
Vocal lead - Kontakt - AVP (I forget which vocal choice)
Lead Viola - Kontakt - Kirk Hunter Lyric string quartet - Amati viola
Staccato strings - Kontakt-Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Ensemble strings
Long strings - Kontakt-Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Ensemble strings

I am trying to learn to mix songs with orchestra tracks so any constructive criticism is welcomed.
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#666063 - 07/28/21 05:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Beautiful track Mario. Soothing and meditative. I really enjoyed it.
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#666070 - 07/28/21 06:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Lovely work on this Mario! Nice job bringing the instruments in and out and with the swells on those synths! You are masterful at putting these type of songs together! Thanks, Torrey
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#666079 - 07/28/21 07:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Very pretty song. You did good on the mix in my opinion.
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#666081 - 07/28/21 08:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Hi Mario,

Yes this definitely sounds like Angelic Dreams - very smooth and restful.

Mix - all sounds good to me.

Well done.

Best Regards
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#666092 - 07/29/21 12:27 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Mellow and soothing. Nice interaction between the vocal and the solo viola.

A tiny bit distracting that the vocal felt like it was in one space and the voila in another, but not a big deal.

The mix sounds balanced to me and I can hear everything clearly, so it works for me. Around 3:30 the backing strings could probably go down a notch.

Nicely done!
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#666100 - 07/29/21 02:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Mario,

You should be scoring movies... A stunning track.

Bob

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#666107 - 07/29/21 04:34 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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I read the title and wondered how you would portray angelic dreams, pushed play, and WOW it really sounded like angels singing. Very creative and so well done, Mario. I was wondering about your process. Is it usually the same? Do you just write what you feel, then listen to it and come up with the title. This is another Mario Magic tune. Thanks.
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#666119 - 07/29/21 06:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: BabuMusic]
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my goodness mario...
i hope you dont mind me saying that i hear a huge live massed choir singing along with this song arrangement . (maybe i'm biased as i was once in a massed choir.)
this is SO INVENTIVE. Melancholy ...but inventive.
as someone else said, you should be doing music for films.
well done.
om
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#666120 - 07/29/21 06:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: Sundance]
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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Beautiful track Mario. Soothing and meditative. I really enjoyed it.
Josie


Thanx so much Josie.
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#666121 - 07/29/21 06:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: Torrey Bliss]
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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Lovely work on this Mario! Nice job bringing the instruments in and out and with the swells on those synths! You are masterful at putting these type of songs together! Thanks, Torrey


Thanx for listening and commenting. I don't know about masterful but I love doing music like this.
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#666122 - 07/29/21 06:55 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: jptjptjpt]
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Originally Posted By: jptjptjpt
Very pretty song. You did good on the mix in my opinion.


Thanx jpt3.
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#666123 - 07/29/21 06:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: NigelSpiers]
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Originally Posted By: NigelSpiers
Hi Mario,

Yes this definitely sounds like Angelic Dreams - very smooth and restful.

Mix - all sounds good to me.

Well done.

Best Regards
Nigel


Thanx so much Nigel. I do struggle with trying to get a good mix on these types of songs so your comments about it make me feel like I am on the right track.
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#666126 - 07/29/21 07:02 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: dcuny]
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Originally Posted By: dcuny
Mellow and soothing. Nice interaction between the vocal and the solo viola.

A tiny bit distracting that the vocal felt like it was in one space and the voila in another, but not a big deal.

The mix sounds balanced to me and I can hear everything clearly, so it works for me. Around 3:30 the backing strings could probably go down a notch.

Nicely done!


Thanx for the comments David, I appreciate them.

The vocal sound unfortunately has the reverb hardwired to the patch so there is no way to change that. I just tried to match that the best that I could but it looks like I have to try a little harder and/or find new angelic vocal patches sans the reverb.

Mixing is hard for me with these types of songs so your comments make me feel like I'm on the right path.
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#666127 - 07/29/21 07:03 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: rsdean]
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Originally Posted By: rsdean
Mario,

You should be scoring movies... A stunning track.

Bob


Thanx Bob. I just like composing these types of songs.
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#666128 - 07/29/21 07:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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The New Age King strikes again!

A beautiful track. Mix sounds good.

Relaxing. Meditative.

Well done on all counts.

fj

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#666131 - 07/29/21 07:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: BabuMusic]
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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
I read the title and wondered how you would portray angelic dreams, pushed play, and WOW it really sounded like angels singing. Very creative and so well done, Mario. I was wondering about your process. Is it usually the same? Do you just write what you feel, then listen to it and come up with the title. This is another Mario Magic tune. Thanks.


Thanx Marty for these very nice comments.

Having a brain that is a half a bubble off center takes my workflow all over the place, thus it changes from song to song. For this piece I had an idea about how I wanted the song to sound. So I did the following:
1-choose a BiaB style
2-laid out some chords and generated the song.
3-revist the styles to determined if I had chosen the right style, for this one I did: I was lucky this time.
4-use the VSTi put all of the MIDI tracks into my DAW Studio One Pro 5
5-picked each track's sound
6-picked the lead sound and played it via my MIDI controllers.
7-played the other parts
8-repeated 5-7 until I got what I thought was the right combinations.
9-mixed all tracks in mono and/or dead center
10-panned the tracks to my liking
11-added track effect(s) where necessary
12-mixed all tracks again
13-added master effect(s)
14-mixed one last time then off to soundcloud.
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#666132 - 07/29/21 07:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: justanoldmuso]
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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
my goodness mario...
i hope you dont mind me saying that i hear a huge live massed choir singing along with this song arrangement . (maybe i'm biased as i was once in a massed choir.)
this is SO INVENTIVE. Melancholy ...but inventive.
as someone else said, you should be doing music for films.
well done.
om


Thanx so much for these very nice comments.
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#666133 - 07/29/21 07:21 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
The New Age King strikes again!

A beautiful track. Mix sounds good.

Relaxing. Meditative.

Well done on all counts.

fj


Thanx so much Floyd. I greatly appreciate your comments.
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#666144 - 07/29/21 08:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: Angelic Dreams [Re: MarioD]
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Really well done, Mario!

You really have the new age genre nailed I think.

Just a fabulous listen through the 'phones, enjoyed!

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