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#666499 - 07/31/21 09:48 PM [User Showcase] STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya
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STINGING EYES
This one has a SLIGHTLY louder main vocal and some oohs n ahhs care of BIAB
Stinging Eyes feat Katya vC
Here's a little ditty, purest country or, perhaps, Cow Punk!
Hopefully it's a bit of fun in a sad way. I can't tell you it will be - you're the one to judge.

Katya of Xabarovskiy Krai did the lead vocals...THANK YOU!!!!...while Kim n Lauren did the gang vocals.
Bandhi Nahbox provided the drums.

Guitars are a 2017 Squire Mustang and a 2019 Harley Benton 12 string Ricky clone both through a Marshall and mic'd with a Sennheizer e609 + a Shure 57.
The Mustang was juiced by a boost from a Boss DS1 pedal - no drive - just level increase.
Bass is a 1981 Vantage through a Behringer BDI21

BIAB details...
WARRIOR.STY
ev8 4/4 F#m 140 bpm.
RealDrums SouthernPopFast 8ths02.

I used the BIAB Melody maker to work out a vocal melody. Sadly it was far too complex and with too wide a range for my croak to sing, or anyone else . I sliced, diced, reworked closer to chord tones and FAR fewer notes. Katya grappled with my heavily edited/reduced/changed result.

LYRICS:
STINGING EYES
verse
You light up the room
And a cigarette too
You just blow
Smoke rings

chorus
You blow your smoke in
My stinging eyes
You don't care
You don't care
Don't care
Who it is cries through
My stinging eyes

verse
You light the city
The stockmarket too
You just blow
Smoke rings

chorus
You blow your smoke in
My stinging eyes
You don't care
You don't care
Don't care
Who it is cries through
Their stinging eyes

Now you heat the globe
For profit too
You just blow
Smoke rings

solo

chorus
You blow your smoke in
Our stinging eyes
You don't care
You don't care
Don't care
Who it is cries through
Our stinging eyes

outro
You just blow
Smoke rings


ALL comments, suggestions etc. are most welcome.


Edited by rayc (08/02/21 04:21 AM)
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#666517 - 08/01/21 05:55 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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"A little ditty" is it? "Cow Punk." You got it!! The only thing I'd change is the title to Smoke Rings. Ha! Katya and the others was the perfect choice. There's so much to hear in there that I'm now on my 3rd spin. Love that bass. Cool harmony phrases. I like the melody you created. I'd like to hear the vocals better but that would maybe lose the feel a bit. I know you spent a lot of time on the mix, and I totally respect your decisions. This one seems like a blast to mix --so many choices. Loved it! A real tear jerker. hehe
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#666522 - 08/01/21 06:25 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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Hi Ray,

Good song and well played and sung.

Congratulations.

Best Regards
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#666539 - 08/01/21 07:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: NigelSpiers]
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Ray.
nice guitars/lyrics. interesting chord changes/avant garde.
just an idea...i kept on wanting the femme vocs more
"upfront"...and that FINAL GUITAR CHORD...VERY CLEVER !.
well done.
best
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#666567 - 08/01/21 11:24 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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Man that's a cool tune Ray! I love the rhythm in this! The vocals really flow with the tune and the lead vocalist did a super job! Your bass work is so steady and played well! You always mix your work in excellent fashion! Another very nice effort from you! Thanks, Torrey
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#666633 - 08/02/21 04:05 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: BabuMusic]
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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
"A little ditty" is it? "Cow Punk." You got it!! The only thing I'd change is the title to Smoke Rings. Ha! Katya and the others was the perfect choice. There's so much to hear in there that I'm now on my 3rd spin. Love that bass. Cool harmony phrases. I like the melody you created. I'd like to hear the vocals better but that would maybe lose the feel a bit. I know you spent a lot of time on the mix, and I totally respect your decisions. This one seems like a blast to mix --so many choices. Loved it! A real tear jerker. hehe

yes Marty,
i was a little cheeky in my initial description I know. Cow Punk is a thing though.
!st it was Scott Goddard and then it blew out into fun like The Johnnys...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SoYSv1LeK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SK2JleuXlc&list=OLAK5uy_nsabKdaDA1z_hoMB86j8JOwEp6-gOErfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8hQm1ge-i0
But it is a sad song and the story starts out like a Patsy Cline ditty.
I "upped the vox" just a tad for ya. Thanks.
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#666634 - 08/02/21 04:08 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: NigelSpiers]
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Originally Posted By: NigelSpiers
Hi Ray,

Good song and well played and sung.

Congratulations.

Best Regards
Nigel

Thanks Nigel.
Your surname is important in Oz music of the 60s n 70s Stewie Spiers was a classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItgZ95oJ_sw
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#666635 - 08/02/21 04:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: justanoldmuso]
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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
Ray.
nice guitars/lyrics. interesting chord changes/avant garde.
just an idea...i kept on wanting the femme vocs more
"upfront"...and that FINAL GUITAR CHORD...VERY CLEVER !.
well done.
best
oldmuso.

Thanks oldmuso,
Old style jazz was the influence on the chords.
Girl Vox further "upfront" and a touch of ohh n ahh added in the update.
Final chord? I rarely resolve a progression or a song for that matter...my blessed ignorance of theory.
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#666636 - 08/02/21 04:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: Torrey Bliss]
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Originally Posted By: Torrey Bliss
Man that's a cool tune Ray! I love the rhythm in this! The vocals really flow with the tune and the lead vocalist did a super job! Your bass work is so steady and played well! You always mix your work in excellent fashion! Another very nice effort from you! Thanks, Torrey

Thanks Torrey,
I took a bit of time working out the bass for this and employed a NEW SECRET WEAPON...Modern Deathcore - a VST compressor...set to maximum crush.
It's intended for metal but it works really well on bass and vocals...even levels without being a limiter.
https://freevstplugins.net/modern-deathcore/
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1176/
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#666649 - 08/02/21 06:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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rayc
i like the vC better.
and heres an idea...i hear in my head you useing your great aussie accent before music starts ...
"HEY KATYA LETS KNOCK THEIR SOCKS OFF" or something appropo
in your great aussie accent....while just bass is riffing off a single note.
then the heavy guitars slam in hard core. its an old arrangement trick.
you could also have Katya reply to you after the above.
just an idea ?
best
old..i like to rock hard...muso
ps...liking that short lead break.


Edited by justanoldmuso (08/02/21 06:47 AM)
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#666653 - 08/02/21 06:48 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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"Cow Punk", I like that! wink

This is cool Ray, very unusual melody and quite clever how you came up with it.

Katya sounds great, and I really like the processing you used on her vocals.

Guitars and bass rock solid as usual.

Good stuff, enjoyed!

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#666694 - 08/02/21 01:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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Dwight Yoakam referred to his music as Cowpunk back in the late 80's.
So we were surprised not to hear a fiddle intro smile

Both are fine mixes but we tend to favor version 2.0

Katya, Kim and Lauren did excellent work on the vocals. Far, far from something
we could imagine creating and/or putting together.

Great lyric. Yeah they just blow smoke rings but those rings just won't go away.

Man, you did an excellent job on the guitar and bass tracks. Just the right amount
of crunch and that bass tone is something to strive for in a mix.

Most cool!

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#666710 - 08/02/21 03:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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You fooled me on this one. I was thinking you were going to try a country western tune. Anyways this is an excellent tune. Backtrack guitars sound very familiar. :-)

Boy did Katya nail the vocal. Was perfect for the song. Well done

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#666734 - 08/02/21 06:18 PM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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Hi rayc.

Very good song... The vocalist shines in this song... very enjoyable performance.

thanks for sharing,
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#666744 - 08/02/21 09:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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Cool song and sound reminds me of the Go Go's.

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#666753 - 08/03/21 01:25 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: rayc]
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Ray

Nicely done, enjoyed the vocals and the backing had a nice live feel which propelled the song throughout.

A very impressive composition, well played and produced.

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#666765 - 08/03/21 02:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
"Cow Punk", I like that! wink

This is cool Ray, very unusual melody and quite clever how you came up with it.

Katya sounds great, and I really like the processing you used on her vocals.

Guitars and bass rock solid as usual.

Good stuff, enjoyed!



Thanks Dave,
Glad you liked it.
Katya's vox are ace and all I added was a little too much reverb.
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#666766 - 08/03/21 03:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Dwight Yoakam referred to his music as Cowpunk back in the late 80's.
So we were surprised not to hear a fiddle intro smile
Both are fine mixes but we tend to favor version 2.0
Katya, Kim and Lauren did excellent work on the vocals. Far, far from something
we could imagine creating and/or putting together.
Great lyric. Yeah they just blow smoke rings but those rings just won't go away.
Man, you did an excellent job on the guitar and bass tracks. Just the right amount
of crunch and that bass tone is something to strive for in a mix.
Most cool!
J&B

J&B,
Goddard's song Cow Punk was from 84. He probably took the name from DY. It's not very Cow nor very punk but it is fun.
You KNOW my brain did toy with the idea of a fiddle.
The Vocals are fine I agree.
Hmmm, the smoke is our lovely layer of greenhouse gas now...this year's weather is defying even the most dire predictions.
MANY thanks.
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#666767 - 08/03/21 03:03 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
You fooled me on this one. I was thinking you were going to try a country western tune. Anyways this is an excellent tune. Backtrack guitars sound very familiar. :-)
Boy did Katya nail the vocal. Was perfect for the song. Well done

I know it was cruel Scott, but it was, in part, a response to folk telling me, in their intro about what a fun/happy/snappy/pop/sexy/romantic etc. song they've offered.
The sound of familiarity ... that old Marshall does it.
Thank you.
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#666768 - 08/03/21 03:04 AM [User Showcase] Re: STINGING EYES by Pygmy Beat Extended featuring Katya [Re: Will Josef]
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Originally Posted By: Will Josef
Hi rayc.
Very good song... The vocalist shines in this song... very enjoyable performance.
thanks for sharing,
Will

Thank you Will,
I'm pleased you like the song and, particularly, the vocals.
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