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#675308 - 09/28/21 10:57 AM [User Showcase] Headaches And Heartaches
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A co-write with Lisa Gundling.


(check the volume slider. On my system it needs to be set to about 50% or it's really loud...)

HEADACHES AND HEARTACHES

when your friends came to party i'd give you the look
you'd turn up the music, i'd close my book
the jokes they kept cracking weren't funny
i thought they were losers just after your money
you were giving me headaches day after day
thought my head would stop hurting when you went away

   now don't get me wrong, it wasn't all bad
   i should have hung on to the good times we had
   thought my head would stop hurtin' out of the blue
   thought my head would stop hurtin' once you said we were through

you'd think i'd be happy, quiet as it is now
i finish book after book but miss the music somehow
saving up laughter with chuckles to spare
in a house filled with lonely because you're not here
now you've giving me heartaches day after day
'cause my heart started hurtin' when you went away

   don't get me wrong i know i'm to blame
   my heart still hangs on and calls out your name
   my heart keeps on hurtin', broken and blue
   my heart has been hurtin' since you said we were through


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RealTracks in song: 2336:Viola, Background, Pop Ev 085 (1TrackStringSection)
I played a couple of acoustic guitar tracks, vocals, harmonies


Have at it.

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#675310 - 09/28/21 11:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd,

Wow! This is an absolutely great production.

I love how you have "headaches in the first verse and "heartaches" in the second.

Your vocal is stellar - you are one of the best singers around. The song itself is also quite special - sounds like it could have been written by Diane Warren - it's that good.

OUTSTANDING!

Bob

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#675328 - 09/28/21 12:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Sung with powerful feeling!

Another well written piece for sure.
Band sounds great and as always, vocals sell it!

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#675335 - 09/28/21 12:36 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd,
This song has a somewhat nostalgic sound to it, very 70-ish. Especially the chorus. Good build that just doesn't exist in a lot of today's music. Great playing and vocals. Man, it is just so nice to go back through time like this sometimes. Give my regards to Lisa Gundling who also helped with the write. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed the listen...

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#675349 - 09/28/21 02:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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FJ,
The melody through
"you were giving me headaches day after day
thought my head would stop hurting when you went away"
is wonderful: as is the rest of the melody in the song but the "cadence & cascade" through those lines really, really is extra wonderful.
Left me wanting more, too.
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#675353 - 09/28/21 04:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd,

Brilliant - I simply couldn't improve on anything.

I particularly liked the vocals - terrific.

One of the best songs I have ever heard on this forum.

Best Regards
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#675370 - 09/28/21 05:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: NigelSpiers]
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i'm not a country style bloke fj,,,
BUT I KNOW TALENT..and youve got it in spades.
you should be in nashville.
hey theres a song idea for you...
title >I'm Going to Nashville.<

best to you always.
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Edited by justanoldmuso (09/28/21 05:09 PM)
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#675382 - 09/28/21 06:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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floyd

Stunning.

Incredibly impressive vocal, and the entire production just oozes class.

A true masterclass.

Peter

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#675391 - 09/28/21 08:32 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Another wonderful song delivered by a world-class singer.

I'm guessing Lisa wrote a fair share of the lyrics, am I wrong? (Just guessing for the fun of it).

Liked the new age piano and the Celtic strings a lot. The piano RT gave you a nice ending, I'm not usually as fortunate.

Thanks for the great music, and all the help you've been to so many on this forum.
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#675434 - 09/29/21 06:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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SMILE. Let's let that be my perpetual comment for any Floyd Jane song, k? It stands for the awe I have for your talentS, man. There is nothing I can say, but that everything is perfect --as always. I listen to your songs more than any others as I drive. So henceforth I'll just type SMILE to let you know I'm still here. Carry on.
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#675452 - 09/29/21 08:14 AM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Lots of emotions in the story and the interpretation really brings them forth, "saving up laughter with chuckles to spare" nice line. The lead to the chorus is very enjoyable and then the chorus starts with unexpectedly beautiful chord progression, singing and great sounding strings. The piano sounds nice also. The song feels too short, I would have listened this high-quality song much longer.

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#675467 - 09/29/21 11:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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You always sound good Floyd.

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#675490 - 09/29/21 03:32 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: rsdean]
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Originally Posted By: rsdean
Floyd,

Wow! This is an absolutely great production.

I love how you have "headaches in the first verse and "heartaches" in the second.

Your vocal is stellar - you are one of the best singers around. The song itself is also quite special - sounds like it could have been written by Diane Warren - it's that good.

OUTSTANDING!

Bob


Bob - REALLY appreciate these words.

Thanks.

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#675502 - 09/29/21 05:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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FJ,
Solid collaboration!
Within couple of short years you redefined and expanded my understanding of modern country pop/rock.
Very powerful tune. Fantastic production and vocals. Excellent title and set of lyrics. Enjoyed it! Thank you for sharing.

Misha.

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#675531 - 09/29/21 07:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Bravo! Outstanding recording. Another well crafted story song. Your vocals are the real attraction here. The chorus is sung so fully. The band was great too, especially that piano players.
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#675568 - 09/30/21 03:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Man! This is just absolutely fantastic.

Just a great song, outstanding vocal, totally pro mix.

One of your best I think, perfect from start to finish.

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#675618 - 09/30/21 12:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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The writing is SUPERB - congratulations to you both. But: that VOICE ... what a storyteller you really are. A joy to listen to you sing.
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#675658 - 09/30/21 04:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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Nice doubling of the vocals. Excellent, as always, production.
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#675663 - 09/30/21 05:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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I'm late to the party but glad that I came.

I agree with everything that has been said.

This is another pro sounding winner.
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#675710 - 10/01/21 12:38 AM [User Showcase] Re: Headaches And Heartaches [Re: floyd jane]
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It's got the feels and the sounds. Plus, a killer title!

Really, that's all I need to say. Excellent song, lovely to listen to.

But this song got me thinking, you said "have at it"... So in no particular order:


Love the sparse opening and build. But it feels like there's one too many guitars there. And I should know, because I've written and arranged zero successful songs. wink

Your phrasing is fun to listen to, and really helps to paint the picture:

   I'd give you... the look

This lyric surprised me:

   you'd turn up the music. i'd close my book

I figured it would be the opposite, like

   i'd hide in a book.

Because I'm way too literal, this line was a bit confusing:

   i thought they were losers just after your money

Are her friends a bunch of gold-diggers trying to marry her? Yeah, this is why I'm never invited to parties. (Because I'm literal, not because I'm a gold-digger).

Nice melody on the bridge - very James Taylor-ish. As a big JT fan, that's a compliment. Only unlike JT it builds into a big chorus.

I was just pointing out to my daughter the other day why I'm no good at writing pop music: I have a compulsion to write more words, instead of using repetition. Repetition is good, and these lines remind me of exactly that:

   thought my head would stop hurtin' out of the blue
   thought my head would stop hurtin' once you said we were through


Lyrically, this chorus looks like like a bridge, but melodically it's a chorus.

(This is the point where I double-check to see if the title of the song is "You Said We Were Through").

I really like the inner rhyme here:

   don't get me wrong i know i'm to blame
   my heart still hangs on and calls out your name


There are some interesting word choices when you call back to the first verse - "chuckles" and "spare":

   saving up laughter with chuckles to spare
   in a house filled with lonely because you're not here


I wouldn't have gone with "chuckles", but then... zero hit songs to my name! laugh

And you don't go with the more obvious "spare/there" rhyme, either!

I didn't initially notice the first chorus was "head" and the second "heart". Subtle and clever.

There is one bit that confuses me, though. I noticed the first verse sets up the singer as the one who's complaining, who seemingly can't wait to be alone. But it's revealed at the end of the first verse that he's not the one that said goodbye first:

   thought my head would stop hurtin' once you said we were through

But... it really feels like the song is structured to hide that particular bit of information until the very last line of the song, as a final twist payoff.

That is, if that hadn't been at the end of the first verse, I'd be totally convinced that he told her goodbye first.

And then I'd get to the end and be all "Oh, Henry snap, I didn't see that coming!"

Or maybe I'm just overthinking things.

Anyway, I had fun listening, and fun spending way too much time analyzing it.

Also, after looking at your formatting, I finally figured how to get those indents working. I didn't think non-breaking spaces could be used, but now I know better! laugh
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