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I'll try Startpage. My Swiss Cows seemed to be overloaded so I tried Bing, reluctantly. A little heavy-handed, I think.

Startpage is my go-to search engine.


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I'm there, Video Track. What an improvement. The Bing interface alone was enough to turn me off. As we know, Microsoft regards the web as its own project. Users are merely contributors adding data while worshipping at the feet of the idol. Briefly, the clickbait and the ads were directed as a certain kind of woke mass formation hypnosis. Ummm...nnnno.

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I'm just kind of surprised how everyone has their pants in a bunch over all the tracking that goes on. Who cares? Will it really impact your life? It is what it is. Doesn't bother me at all.




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Well, Steve, I was once tracked by a mountain lion while on my horse in Arizona.

They often kill horses so we all carry rifles and kill them on sight. I guess that could be considered on the job training for protection from other dangerous life-threatening predators...lol

From the ACLU "The tracking of people’s location constitutes a significant invasion of privacy, which can reveal many things about their lives, such as what friends, doctors, protests, political events, or churches a person may visit."

They are talking about license plate trackers and their proliferation.

I am not sure why I would want to keep secret who my friends, doctors, political events, and churches that I have visited are. My last protest was a war protest song here on the forum, so no need to track that...lol

I have several hundred photos of churches we took a look at the last time I was in Europe on my cell phone. No need to track me if you would like to look at the photos...lol

I have been told that less than 2% of the population of the United States has paranoid schizophrenia but I am beginning to have my doubts that number is accurate...lol

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The federal government has a record of every flight I have ever taken ( not just the last two years), every time I cleared customs in my airplanes, in my boats, and in my cars. They have my fingerprints, my DNA, my bank records, who I have been married to, what my health status was for every six months I renewed my flight medical certificate as they do for everyone who has a Coast Guard Masters, commercial pilot license, security clearance, and several other reasons. They know where I live as we speak.

No, I have nothing to hide. Well...I do need to lose about 15 pounds so I am not too keen on walking around with no close on in public...lol

My house is well secured, my dogs will eat you alive if you break in, and I am well armed, insured, and well trained.

So, no Mark, I am not very fearful about anything. Well...that is not 100% true, my wife will kick my butt if I cross the line...lol

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I'll relate this true event to you.

Recently I came across some people with a new travel trailer. A certain 'aleck-sa' item was included as part of the supplied features. They mentioned that while in the travel trailer they discussed amongst themselves some thoughts on purchasing new golf clubs. Shortly afterwards they began to receive offers on golf clubs through multiple different media sources. Coincidence? Of course! How could we even think to be so skeptical? crazy

They turned 'aleck-sa' off. They suspected it was doing more than giving them the weather reports, (especially when not even being asked).

Each to their own. I've got nothing to hide either, but I simply prefer to use browsers that don't background profile - for their own underlying benefit.

It obviously happens more than you know.

To each his own...


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Originally Posted By: Planobilly
I was once tracked by a mountain lion while on my horse in Arizona.


The Internet truly is omnipresent. laugh


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Well, Steve, I was once tracked by a mountain lion while on my horse in Arizona.

Billy. That must've been confronting. I can picture the event. Mountain Lion, wearing headphones, carrying a directional antenna and wandering around endlessly in different directions, listening intently for the occasional (musical) 'beep' to get louder.

Heck, it's no wonder you took to flying airplanes. grin grin grin


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Yes Trev, a very disconcerting situation. I strongly suspect some tree huggers from the nanny state across the border provided the lion with the equipment. I am told they sometimes do this sort of thing to protect the mountain lions from nefarious barbarians like myself who for one thing own guns.

The mountain lions occasionally eat a few tree huggers over there, mostly on bicycles, but that is permitted due to the fact that those mountain lions in question had a really uncomfortable childhood and were not provided counseling.

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Yes Trev, a very disconcerting situation. I strongly suspect some tree huggers from the nanny state across the border provided the lion with the equipment. I am told they sometimes do this sort of thing to protect the mountain lions from nefarious barbarians like myself who for one thing own guns.

The mountain lions occasionally eat a few tree huggers over there, mostly on bicycles, but that is permitted due to the fact that those mountain lions in question had a really uncomfortable childhood and were not provided counseling.

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I'll relate this true event to you.

Recently I came across some people with a new travel trailer. A certain 'aleck-sa' item was included as part of the supplied features. They mentioned that while in the travel trailer they discussed amongst themselves some thoughts on purchasing new golf clubs. Shortly afterwards they began to receive offers on golf clubs through multiple different media sources. Coincidence? Of course! How could we even think to be so skeptical? crazy

They turned 'aleck-sa' off. They suspected it was doing more than giving them the weather reports, (especially when not even being asked).

Each to their own. I've got nothing to hide either, but I simply prefer to use browsers that don't background profile - for their own underlying benefit.

It obviously happens more than you know.

To each his own...


I don't think anyone hides the fact that these "helpful" devices are listening all the time unless you specifically stop them from doing so.

It is all about ads and money and always will be. The internet obviously was not invented as a business, but it didn't take long for the money people to figure out there were trillions to be made. And, they did.

I don't care. Business is business. I don't care about the tracking either. It makes my searches better in the long run. Sometimes I can't even type a whole thought and get exactly what I was looking for. The knowledge (and a lot of it incorrect) of the world at my fingertips.

As Billy stated, everything anyone wants to know about you is already out there anyway. I held secret clearances, and work in nuclear power. My background has been probed plenty.

I don't do anything that has me worried about people finding out anyway.


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I'm just kind of surprised how everyone has their pants in a bunch over all the tracking that goes on. Who cares? Will it really impact your life? It is what it is. Doesn't bother me at all.


I got caught off guard by one of the ID Theft schemes, involving banking. It gave me a new outlook on web security.


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I got caught off guard by one of the ID Theft schemes, involving banking. It gave me a new outlook on web security.

... and the more data they can scavenge, the more credible the scams can seem.


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The last year I worked at a bank we had $455,000,000 in fraud.

Being older I get targeted by scammers more on my phone than on the computer.

About every two years fraudulent transactions happen on my bank account from fraudulent use of my bank card that gets past the fraud section system. I audit my bank transactions often to check for fraud.

I then have to dispute the fraudulent amount which is very easy and the money is returned to my account within a few hours. The card is canceled and a new one is sent out to me.

It is a bit of a pain in the butt to deal with and keep up with but if you do a lot of transactions on the internet it will happen sooner or later.

These fraudulent charges are normally pretty small amounts of money, generally under $200.

I did once have a large fraudulent transaction occur on my business in excess of $200,000. The bank called me and it was resolved within one hour.

So...the bottom line is that it is 2022, and unwanted tracking, scams, fraudulent transactions, and a whole litany of negative issues do and will continue to occur. If you do things without thinking them through then it is possible to lose money.

Do not agree to anything you are not sure of.

I think it is pointless to worry about things that you have no control over.

Let the dogs and the insurance company stay up at night...lol

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I got caught off guard by one of the ID Theft schemes, involving banking.
It gave me a new outlook on web security.

... and the more data they can scavenge, the more credible the scams can seem.

I had a wallet stolen a while back, which quickly turned into serious, professional identify theft. Never mind cash or cards, which of course I immediately cancelled, or the license he couldn't use. He used the information he found to create fake ID and open credit lines in high-end retail stores and walk out with goodies. He bought a lot of jewelry, even tried to buy a car. Within a few days he got to around $16,000 total. What finally undid him was he has the audacity to go into a bank and try to get a debit card to replace the one I had cancelled! I have surveillance photos of him doing that, the police gave them to me.

I am not ashamed of my Social Security number, but no, you cannot have it, and that sort of thing is why.

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Here is the stupidity of the federal government as it relates to social security numbers. Until a few years ago your pilot license number was your social security number and printed on your license.

There is no way to totally protect yourself from identity fraud. There is insurance that will help.

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Here is the stupidity of the federal government as it relates to social security numbers. Until a few years ago your pilot license number was your social security number and printed on your license.

IIRC, the state I was in at the time still used SSN on driver's licenses.

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Here is the stupidity of the federal government as it relates to social security numbers. Until a few years ago your pilot license number was your social security number and printed on your license.

There is no way to totally protect yourself from identity fraud. There is insurance that will help.

Billy


I agree but no only for the SS numbers but also all the data in the IRS. I have a sneaky suspicion that my doctor's data is not secure either.

Like you I have had to cancel charge cards for fraudulent charges.

The best advice I can give is to lock all of your credit data, i.e. Equifax, Transunion, etc.


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Like you I have had to cancel charge cards for fraudulent charges.
The best advice I can give is to lock all of your credit data, i.e. Equifax, Transunion, etc.

I had no idea what to do. I called the sheriff. His office provided step-by-step instructions, on a printed hand-out. The first step was to freeze the credit reporting .. Equifax, Transunion, and Esperion.

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