|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076 |
Old Time Religion First documented in 1873 this African-American Jubilee Gospel song is thought by many to date back even further. For this R&B/blues rock version Janice sings six parts, Peter plays guitar and sings and I thumped out an upright bass track. The intent is to juxtapose an old sound with some full on blues rock guitar which may or may not work for ya! We love the old and the newer versions so this is a mashup. We ended up with 18 tracks which is way above my mix pay grade  Your time to listen and comment are always appreciated! Big thanks to Peter and PG Music. © 2022 Trad. Arr. B. Merritt, J. Merritt & P. Fulham (PD thus we own all rights to the production) Janice: vocal leads (2) /harmonies (4) > Rodes NT1 mic > Scarlett 212 > Logic Pro X > Nectar 2/Nectar 3 Peter: guitar solos (whatever the man adds ) and harmony > Nectar 3 Bud: upright bass > MXL mic > Logic Pro X > Waves CLA Bass Piano: MIDI SuperTrack 2463 Rhythm MotownRnBUptempo > Logic Pro X Grand Steinway > Waves CLA Unplugged (originally an electric piano) Guitar: RealTrack 2359 Electric, Rhythm MotownRnBUptempo Ev 165 rendered Direct Input > Logic Pro X > Logic Awesome Tweed Amp/Dynamic 609 mic/Tweed 1x 12 cabinet Drums: RealDrums Nashville ev 8ths (multiple comps) > Waves CLA Drums Snare: from the RealDrum file > Neutron 3 Cymbal: from the RealDrum file > Waves JPL Percussion Handclaps: 4 tracks/various samples and fx Mastering: Logic Pro X EQ > Ozone 9 Dynamice EQ > Ozone imager > Ozone 9 Maximizer > Ozone Tonal Balance 2 > Youlean Loudness Meter
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,114
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,114 |
Wowza!
I am very familiar with this song of course, I'm sure most people are, heard many versions over the years.
But you guys made it your own, love the arrangement!
Man, Janice is at the top of her game here, love all the vocal layers. Peter adds the perfect guitar parts, something he always seems to do, and Bud, you are sounding mighty fine on the upright!
Great job on the the mix too, Bud. 18 tracks!!
Really well done you three, very much enjoyed! Going to give it another spin ...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,312
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,312 |
I love this song, and Janice nails it... but the mix needs work.
I can't hear the Bass at all, and the electric Gtar is too loud, and rawkus for the song.
Just my take on it.
I do love that "Ol' Time Religion...
edit: maybe rawkus is not the right word, (maybe not a word at all)
In my opinion, as good a player as Peter is, the guitar solos don't work at all in this... I think a fiddle, dobro, mando or almost any acoustic solo would be a better fit. Please crank up the Thump.
Edit #2:
I listened again with a different pair of monitors, and I could hear the bass fiddle better, although I would still prefer to hear more of the bass in the mix.
Last edited by bloc-head; 01/28/22 02:23 PM. Reason: added text
Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2024-latest Beta;
Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete:
Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2021
Posts: 1,347
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Oct 2021
Posts: 1,347 |
Hello Janice, Peter and Bud
Congratulations
All the work you put into this song can be heard from start to finish.
The extremely good singing of Janice would probably also please the singers of that time very much
The bass part is absolutely top and sounds great
The guitar solos are excellent and the distorted guitar sound emphasizes the great mood of the song.
Normally this is not my style of music
But what you have made of it is just awesome
It is a pleasure to listen to you
Many greetings to you three
Andi ;-)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076 |
Wowza!
I am very familiar with this song of course, I'm sure most people are, heard many versions over the years.
But you guys made it your own, love the arrangement!
Man, Janice is at the top of her game here, love all the vocal layers. Peter adds the perfect guitar parts, something he always seems to do, and Bud, you are sounding mighty fine on the upright!
Great job on the the mix too, Bud. 18 tracks!!
Really well done you three, very much enjoyed! Going to give it another spin ... Dave, coming from an outstanding blues man and an admirer of Bonomassa’s version of the tune your comments mean so much to us. And thanks for the bass mention. And yeah Peter did just what was needed to contrast the old with the new. We much appreciate it! J&B
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,789
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,789 |
J&B + Peter, Excellent take on this tune. Very lively, as it should be Janice and Peter are the stars of the show! Nice combination of modern vocals and vintage sounding Peter's guitar (tube preset?). Bud, super playing on that upright! A friend plays "monster" bass balalaika. It is a show by itself seeing somebody play big bass, especially something intricate. I read BH comment, but I can hear your bass just fine in my semi open headphones which are not "bassy" at all. Mix is PRO level to my ears. Good stuff. Thank you for sharing. Misha.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,144
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,144 |
Bass: could hear it just fine.
Guitar: could also hear it just fine, but didn't want to. My ears were looking for an acoustic instrument or at least a clean tone.
Janice: could hear her just fine, Hallelujah! And what a great pleasure it is to hear her.
Mix, production: Also a great pleasure.
Your liner notes said to expect a full-on blues rock vibe, and it was fine, except the guitar. A subjective matter and JMHO.
Windows 10, Intel Core I5 10400, 16 gig ram, Scarlett 6i6, Komplete keyboard, Sony Acid Music Studio 11, BIAB 2020 UltraPlus Pak
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076 |
I love this song, and Janice nails it... but the mix needs work.
I can't hear the Bass at all, and the electric Gtar is too loud, and rawkus for the song.
Just my take on it.
I do love that "Ol' Time Religion...
edit: maybe rawkus is not the right word, (maybe not a word at all)
In my opinion, as good a player as Peter is, the guitar solos don't work at all in this... I think a fiddle, dobro, mando or almost any acoustic solo would be a better fit. Please crank up the Thump.
Glad you liked it…well mostly I respectfully disagree that the mix needs work. For the past 50 years I’ve played that old Kay Swingmaster in hundreds of gigs and mixed it in many recording sessions. I know the tone and gain that I, FWIW, want from it. We listened to the mix on a variety of sound systems before sticking the proverbial fork in it. Ironically, on two of our systems with sub-woofers we felt it was too loud. Funny thing is that I nearly used the word raucous in my post! It was our intent to create a mashup of old-time gospel and wide open blues rock (Joe Bonamassa did a version on Live At The Greek Theater that influenced our efforts). Having played in traditional bluegrass bands for decades it would’ve been easy to mix an acoustic lead in it but that’s not what we wanted to meet our objective. We asked Peter (who also plays dobro, acoustic guitar and mando) to go all out electric on it so, hey, we’ll accept any blame J&B
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,817
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,817 |
An outstanding version of an old classic.
Everything is perfect, the bass is great, Peter's lead is fantastic, Janice's vocals outstanding, and the mix is spot on.
Gee, that is like every other song you do!
Loved it.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,563
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,563 |
Wow, just wow! Consistent with what has become usual with this hymn, its form lends itself perfectly to improvised lyrics, made personal by the performer. Janice gets high marks with this one. The band is spectacular.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,749
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,749 |
You guys have really delivered on this one!
A great blend of old and new.
Vocals are great.....those harmonies are superb!
Loved it
moto
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,559
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,559 |
Hi Guys,
Good version of a very old song.
Well done.
Best Regards
Nigel
Nigel Spiers
Christchurch, New Zealand
info@nzacoustics.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,076 |
Hello Janice, Peter and Bud
Congratulations
All the work you put into this song can be heard from start to finish.
The extremely good singing of Janice would probably also please the singers of that time very much
The bass part is absolutely top and sounds great
The guitar solos are excellent and the distorted guitar sound emphasizes the great mood of the song.
Normally this is not my style of music
But what you have made of it is just awesome
It is a pleasure to listen to you
Many greetings to you three
Andi ;-) Andi, you mentioned everything we had hoped to achieve! Thank you very much. Your support is appreciated. Take care, J&B
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,253
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,253 |
The bass is SPOT ON...ace playing and tone Bud, - like Misha, I'm listening with open backed phones, (Sennheizer HS 515s), and there's no bass hype in these cans so the reproduced bass is pretty close to the version in the mix.
I think the fiery blues guitar parts work really well for this uptempo rendition of this song and also reinforces, with the hand claps, that it's REALLY a version.
The BIAB elements work a treat and, of course, there's Janice.
I'll simply say taht I can point to the song with a knowing nod and say "There's Janice!". Enough said.
Last edited by rayc; 01/29/22 06:34 PM.
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,390
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 3,390 |
Oh, man, there is so much good in this --and everyone of your songs, guys. So good to hear you on that big bass, Bud, and so well-played. Perfectly appropriate. Of course, I always prefer the bass a bit louder --one of my mixing downfalls. There is so much joy in Janice and this is the perfect vehicle for it. I think Peter's solos are so much better than any other instrument could do. And that's a cool deep harmony, Peter. Right from the a cappella opening to the final Amen this is outstanding, y'all.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,689
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,689 |
J&B&P,
Killer version.
Vocals - awesome. (well, duh)
Bass sounds great!
Peter's guitar works. Adds a nice PB&J flavor to a classic.
Piano - nice. Claps - perfectly placed (and a great sound).
Mix - perfect (as always).
LOVE the album cover!
An obvious choice for a J&B version. Done right. Amen.
fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,752
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,752 |
Wow, I wish I were listening this live in a church, such a uplifting live feeling in playing and singing. Excellent vocals and layering. The guitar solo may surprise like Marty McFly, but that's why it has a convincing jaw-dropping effect. The band works perfectly, hand claps are especially nice.
Janne
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 2,637
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 2,637 |
as an ex choirboy, yep great effort by the 4T team.
great vocs etc.
it bops along nicely.
best
om
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 446
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 446 |
I love this arrangement to an old classic. Well done!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,664
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,664 |
I like this one a lot. Fun, and vocals feel spot on. Harmonies are great... obviously.  Is that Janice on those low parts? I've got mixed feelings about the guitar solo... which seems to me the intent. It should grate a bit, because it's demanding attention. Love the claps! Alleluia, amen! 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,635
Posts735,280
Members38,522
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean