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Originally Posted By: MarioD
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Hey Mario, does anybody really know what time it is?


Chicago Transit Authority does wink


Does anybody really care?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgF_ycCmF18
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Hey Mario, does anybody really know what time it is?


Chicago Transit Authority does wink


Does anybody really care?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgF_ycCmF18
smile


Now we are getting somewhere!


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...buy the fastest CPU with the most ram and the largest HD(s) you can afford.


Bingo! It ain't rocket science. Dont' over think it. grin

Yep.


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Re…Not Rocket Science.

It might not be rocket science , but i would respectfully suggest getting a new//the right pc for music production is not a trivial matter…..as oodles of threads on various recording threads like gearspace and reaper.fm will attest, …as well as lots of you tube vids/pc builds etc…

And even people like Pete B of microsoft (who has a v nice recording daw rig..)...do an excellent article with lots of great advice.
In addition big recording studios often use custom builders of recording pc’s. They would not be doing that if it was easy to get any old pc off the shelf.
there are people also adept at pc builds who sometimes choose a builder of custom pc's for music production.
Then of course one sees on various forums including pg here , people new to daw’s having probs…often due to an underpowered pc not matching their true needs.

Frankly ive been very tempted this time…to go apple mini as i love the apple M processor power/tech approach.
But the number of ports and future expandability concerns/upgradeability has me concerned.
a desktop pc is more flexible.
I agree with Pete B of microsoft bout using desktops for music production.
So thats the route i will prolly take…with 3 v fast ssd’s. One for win…one for traks…one for sample orch libs. Etc .

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...buy the fastest CPU with the most ram and the largest HD(s) you can afford.


Bingo! It ain't rocket science. Dont' over think it. grin

Yep.


This really says it all. If I were building a pro studio that was going to be doing this for others I would certainly look into a dedicated custom built machine that has all the bells and whistles for that sort of thing. But for my home use I get along just fine with what I have. I think storage and ram were key to me. I was tired of crazy dropouts etc. with 16GB of RAM. I remember when I thought I was something with my 1M of RAM! Only 640KB was usable unless you had a nice utility program to steal some of the forbidden ram! QEMM. Now I have 64 and it seems to be plenty. Everything is fast, no issues loading all I want and more.


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Re…Not Rocket Science.

It might not be rocket science ,...

You missed the point completely.


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Does anybody remember Gateway Computers before it was purchased by Compaq and then HP? Every desktop computer was a made-to-order unit, with bios and Windows custom configured to match the hardware. Even the order of the lines in the configuration file was massaged to make the unit work as smooth and fast as possible.

The custom configuration was what set Gateway apart from the rest along with the black & white shipping containers that reminded you of a cow. smile Gateway built a configuration program that built the configuration file for each computer it sold.

They don't have a configuration program but most audio computer custom builders extensively verify and test their equipment. They use experience to configure the motherboard and Window settings. That and technical support after the sale is what you pay for. For commercial production studios where downtime is costly the extra cost of a specialized and custom computer likely makes sense but for some hobbyists not so much.

I believe off-the-shelf computers offer the best value for most hobbyists. New, refurbished, laptop or desktop goods is a personal choice.

My one caution is to be careful of a refurbished builder, even one you find through a manufacturer's website. Manufacturers will list resellers that sell their computers. There is no formal definition of what constitutes refurbishment. For some builders it's clean inside and out and replace whatever doesn't work. For others it's just clean. A great warranty doesn't help if a unit spends half its time as downtime.


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My one caution is to be careful of a refurbished...

Something else to bear in mind, though it can be hard to quantify, is that newer computers tend to be more energy efficient, so what you save on the buying price, you may instead spend on the electricity bill.

A strong plus, though, is that one is helping to keep the things out of landfill!


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I have both and I don't have an issue with either one. One issue with the i9 is I can not upgrade the processor without upgrading the board.

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