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New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? #717742 05/23/22 07:47 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	"No More" was the first song I created when I took the Ryan Tedder Music Production/ Songwriting course. No More on SoundCloud No More SoundCloud Link YouTube link fo "No More" https://youtu.be/pEGEm-J-90g It started with the guitar riff ( not from Band in a Box) you hear in the intro and chorus (basically creating a vibe to adlib vocals too) I was following the course and Ryan's methods, so I had no idea what was next. The guitar riff seemed busy, and not much room for vocal melodies. The first thing that popped out of my head was no more, so that was the chorus repeated four times( a very short hook). Then I had to make the verses and arrange the song, so I took that guitar riff out, played the chords, and adlibbed some mumbling lyrics/ melody. There is more to the process, but this post is getting long. LOL After the class, it took me some time to finish the lyrics, get a vocalist, and then mix the vocals tracks. I also just started using Band in the box at the time of working on this song. Although I forget what the file names are for the parts, I used The drums, bass, and guitars from Band in a Box to finish the production. I play the guitar riff in the intro and in chorus added some percussion and a little synth part you here in the verses. The whole Song was produced in Logic Pro with other various instruments and plug-ins I also have a few other versions of the song with different breakdown sections and some with a completely different music track. Any feedback is welcome. Is there any artist this reminds you of? Thanks, Greg

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #718182 05/27/22 08:12 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 5,467 United States Torrey Bliss Veteran
Torrey Bliss Veteran Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 5,467 United States	Greg, I have been away from the forum for a bit and almost missed this one! This track sounds super! The mix is excellent! The vocalist is definitely pro all the way! It's got kind of a Sheryl Crow vibe going on! Welcome to this great forum! Thanks, Torrey

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Torrey Bliss #718307 05/28/22 03:40 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thanks for listening and your feedback. Another friend of mine said it sounds like Sheryl Crow as well so that's pretty cool. I'll be posting more soon and I'll check out your music too. Thanks, Greg

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #718378 05/28/22 01:35 PM User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,383 J justanoldmuso Veteran
justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,383	great vocs yep like s crow. kudos. happiness om my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb.)

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #718381 05/28/22 01:44 PM User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2022 Posts: 1,031 California Brad Williams Expert
Brad Williams Expert Joined: Feb 2022 Posts: 1,031 California	Definite Crow sound, but original too. Good mix. https://soundcloud.com/user-722422510/tracks

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #718396 05/28/22 02:59 PM User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,853 Cooran Queensland Australia rayc Veteran
rayc Veteran Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 6,853 Cooran Queensland Australia	The vocalist sounds like a million modern women vocalists...breathy, whiny, quite processed in the verses but better in the choruses and the overdubbed parts. The song - well it's mainly a guitar riff & a vocal hook repeated ad infinitum...the "verse" was a relief even though the vocals were over processed. In terms of current pop it works really well. Just make sure Rick Beato doesn't get near it. Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #718407 05/28/22 06:36 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,799 Christchurch, New Zealand NigelSpiers Expert
NigelSpiers Expert Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,799 Christchurch, New Zealand	Hi Greg, Good song with some nice hooks and good vocals. Maybe could do with an instrumental solo in the middle for a bit of light and shade - easy to add with all the great BIAB soloists. Best Regards Nigel Nigel Spiers Christchurch, New Zealand info@nzacoustics.com

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Brad Williams #718420 05/29/22 02:37 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thank You!

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? NigelSpiers #718421 05/29/22 02:38 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thanks, I was going to have a guitar solo at the end but I chopped up her vocals and made that the ending. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? rayc #718422 05/29/22 02:45 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thanks for the feedback.

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #719073 06/04/22 02:00 PM User Showcase
Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 3,250 Virginia USA Ezekiel's Storm Veteran
Ezekiel's Storm Veteran Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 3,250 Virginia USA	Good song and good production. Original with a modern sound (I can never get the modern sound). Love the riff, catchy.

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #719093 06/04/22 06:44 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,637 Sydney Australia PeterF Veteran
PeterF Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,637 Sydney Australia	Welcome to the forum Song is nicely done with a clear mix and good use of the Band. Enjoyed it. Peter

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #719172 06/05/22 12:40 PM User Showcase
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 6,695 Rustyspoon# Veteran
Rustyspoon# Veteran Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 6,695	Greg, Excellent production and skillful use of BIAB. Well thought out and polished tune. Good video too! Easy listen. Thank you for sharing. Misha.

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #719255 06/06/22 11:40 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 3,357 Robertkc Veteran
Robertkc Veteran Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 3,357	Greg, I enjoyed the simplicity and polish of this- the vocalist has the attitude and phrasing you`d expect from the style ( nice effects on her voice at the close).Its catchy too. I agree a guitar break would work, though maybe that`s old school thinking! Well done. Robert

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Ezekiel's Storm #720794 06/14/22 12:32 PM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thanks for the feedback

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Robertkc #720795 06/14/22 12:33 PM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thanks for your input

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? PeterF #720797 06/14/22 12:33 PM User Showcase
Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City Greg Kocis OP Newbie
OP Greg Kocis Newbie Joined: May 2022 Posts: 11 New York City	Thanks

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #720809 06/14/22 01:18 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,290 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,290 North Carolina	Ok, so I do rock myself, and I think this is awesome-sounding rock. The vocals are sexy and killer. Every to love, and nothing NOT to love. You could force a Sheryl Crow comparison, I guess, but to me it sounded original and fresh. Very engaging and fun to listen to. If there were other tracks on a playlist I would listen to more. I don't understand why there would be any criticisms of this vocalist at all. She is fun. This is what people like to listen to. Great job man. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #720813 06/14/22 01:28 PM User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,157 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker Veteran
Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,157 Middlesex, NC	Nice way to introduce yourself to the family. This is well executed. As others have said.... Excellent job. We've had a lot of really talented new people coming in recently and that's so good. It raises the bar for everyone and we have to up our game. Looking forward to more from you in the future. One tip.... When you reply to someone's comments, please include their name so we know who you're responding to. "Thanks" is kinda cryptic. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: New Song "No More" Liel Bar-Z - Ryan Tedder Studio.com Course Project One - Who Do we sound like? Greg Kocis #721496 06/19/22 06:51 AM User Showcase
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DJNC Newbie D Joined: May 2022 Posts: 4	Nice job!

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